Boomer, Pinder and Rhett break down one of the NHL’s most intriguing teams heading into next season as the San Jose Sharks continue to accelerate their rebuild. After adding Darnell Nurse and Jacob Trouba to a young roster loaded with talent, the guys debate whether the Sharks are pushing their chips in too early or making the right move by surrounding their future stars with experienced veterans. With Macklin Celebrini, Michael Misa, Anton Frondell and a stacked prospect pipeline leading the way, is San Jose ready to take the next step, or are they getting ahead of themselves? What do you think of the Sharks’ offseason?
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IDK……..to me, it's almost reminiscent to when the Isles grabbed Boychuk and Leddy in same day separate trades. You can't put a price on vet defenseman leadership and, to be honest, perhaps Grier perceived that to be a HUGE need. Time will tell.
should've only got one of them
Couture’s gonna get off the books. Vlassic’s gonna get off the books. Etc. I understand Grier’s thinking. Protect the kids.
The owner came out after not speaking for years and said he doesn’t want a lottery pick then his gm traded a developing 23 year old to open the slot for an 18 year old.
So then he had to do what his boss told him to do instead of what he wanted to do.
He should have used his valuable assets to do get his owner help today instead of drafting twice in the top 10.
No, they (Greer) haven't done anything huge against the cap or awful to say that. It's been mostly good what Greer's doing, albeit with a ton of sweet picks anyone could wreak havoc with. But he's been mainly good. A couple deals where it's not so much the players that are the issue, it's the terms. As with Sherwood, we all love Keifer, that's not the point. The issue was Greer gave up two 2nd round picks just to get Kiefer S but he still needed to be signed and paid. Again, like the player, i understand Mike G wants to get tougher and he was part of that.
And then you add on that Trouba and Nurse while again, compared to what the Sharks had on D they're clearly an upgrade. It's just couldn't we have gotten all of that or something similar for less?
But also again, it's not like any of this yet is major. It's still "all good," it's just Greer it seems might have slightly overpaid, that's all. For what they are. It's an upgrade, yes. It allows the young great burgeoning offense on the Sharks to "do their thing," all important stuff.
But i think it's clear the Sharks and San Jose now in the NHL are an item, a draw. Players will want to go there, sign there, etc. I just think Mike could have done what he's done (which again overall i like and he's gotten tons of super high obvious picks too, but that's not his fault) but done it a bit more efficiently. Right now that doesn't matter, the Sharks will come up and have fun soon.
I just wonder if the Sharks and Greer didn't "drink too much water (cap room and flexibility down the road) too soon" in their journey.
But as i've said when saying this elsewhere, to be clear. It's NITPICKING, and i understand that. Overall i like what Mike's done and think the team is clearly going to be really good. And it's nothing against Trouba or Nurse, they're professionals both and i could see both thriving. If it all clicks as in the contracts and age and health all fall in, i will be the first to say it, and again, i don't know why i'm defending myself, i like Mike as GM, think it's really looking good now.
You can't complain yesterday about teams not giving their young players an immediate chance to win and then complain today that a team is "forcing their build".
Pick a lane
San Jose could be going to conference finals this year with such a weak pacific division
Not guaranteeing anything but… COULD it be a scenario where there's no top D pair, but the D core is just overall like 80s OVR and decently solid all around? With no #1. And we've seen teams win that way with an O core like that, maybe this D core can be the "all sold guys" vibe, and the O has THE guy? We'll see.
Your all absolutely crazy! These are great moves, they needed dman they needed more dman and brought 3, yes 3 dman above 6'5". There rebuild is 100% over and a lock to make playoffs next year
Sharks have a bunch of cheap contracts for the next 3-5 yrs they can easily afford nurse and trouba
They coulda gone with d-men on shorter/cheaper deals. They shoulda gone that way. Oleksiak, Middleton are examples of guys who've got veteran skills that are both shorter and cheaper.
Its not just Trouba and Nurse. Its Sherwood and Marchment. All 4 guys who are 31+ right now and with 4-5 years on their deals. A quarter of the cap on what'll likely be 3rd pair and 4th line sorts in 3-4 years. They already have Wennberg + Toffoli for multiple years and Orlov + Goodrow for another season. Its useful to have a veteran presence, but there's no need to go that far overboard.
Sharks have more of a top pair this year than they did last year. I think the point is to have a good enough defense to A) get the team to the playoffs. and B) mentor the young guys. I just wish they got retention on Nurse.
Do you guys even do your homework on the team? The answer is no. We have contracts coming off the books, who cares what we traded for nurse or how much we are paying Darnell and Trouba. We needed d-men and we needed to hit the cap floor.
Nurse can play big minutes and he is always available.