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46 Comments
Mo took a big step? I don't think he's moved up at all. Consistently very good. His big step is 15 goals or a shot worth worrying about. Nobody besides Cat had an improved year. Raymond all but turtled from being THE guy. All the kids sucked. Tanguay is crap too.
Checkers smoked a NHL team last night 😊
Hire a psychiatrist fire half the team and maybe I’ll dish out $500 for opening night next year .
Go get stamkos,make him the captain, and Kane the a captain, there is your veteran leadship on and off the ice the playoff drought will end!!!!!!!!!!
He talks like a guy who knows the end is near ,as it should be !
19 has to follow him out the door !
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If everyone played with the same heart, as Alex DeBrincat, Red Wings would be unstoppable
Gibson is a GIANT five hole waiting to be scored on with any shot.
Patrick Kane sorry to say but he was never going to bring the Red Wings back to the playoffs
The owner doesn't seem to want to win.
Top question for postseason interviews should be – do you want to play here or do you want to compete here for an original six organization?
Ilitch is the problem, he is not spending money with the Wings or the Tigers. If he was willing to spend he would have given Skubal the $400 he is in line to make. If I was Stevie I would resign and go somewhere else.
It's going to take 20 million or more a year for Detroit to entice an ELITE player to want to play in this shit show. And then go dodge potholes on the way home. It's going to take a ton of money to get big time talent. And I bet most will skip on the 20 million, just to avoid this debacle.
25 straight playoff appearances in a row to 10 in a row without playoffs…
There is a long standing belief that a really good AHL team should never be able to defeat an NHL team…
Well, last night shot that assumption all to hell. Florida played Matthew Tkachuk and that was basically it.
HOW do you manage to lose that game when Florida is actively trying to protect their top 5 pick? I really do hope Florida was, in their own weird way, sending a message of their own to the Red Wings. A message that says "even on our worst nights, you ain't us".
Hockeytown needs a new leader on the ice! Mo Seider will fill that role real nice! Give the man with grit & fire the “C” and stop rolling the dice!
Stevie Y, are you allowing a guy to captain a team that has no leadership??? As “The Captain” you know that it takes Grit, Heart, 2 way play with a Chip on your shoulder! SeiderChip!!!
Growing up in D town watching Howe a production line declined into the Dead Things was tragic as a boy! Then came “19” 83!!! A goal scorer who elevated his entire game into hockey fame!
You have the guy who can show the boys how it gets done! A quiet leader that will win a Norris along the way, like Nicklas Lidstrom! Peace,
David ; D ~
"Yup."
Last year at the trade deadline, the Habs and Wings were in similar spots. Larkin complained in the media that moves weren't made. Suzuki personally requested an audience with Hughes to request no trades and promised him and his guys would make the playoffs. Suzuki led his team to a playoff birth. Amassing a ton of points and leading by example. Larkin's squad failed to achieve the goal… Larkin is a very good player. He would be an excellent 2C on an established competitor. But, he isn't the leader this team needs.
Presence and attitude wise? Brady over Larkin. Sorry.
Copp whining about outside noise is the type of dude he is. Terrible hockey player , whiney baby that stole 5 mil a year and goes 20 games at a time without a goal. He did that all 3 seasons he was here. Copp is a loser and us fans were forced fed that wimp for 3 years. Why he wasnty health scratched after he whined to the media… GET RID OF WUSSIES
Keep paying the big to the players. Generations evolve with different ethics, genes, attitude, the will, motivation. Pathetic work ethic in this team and individual players.
The Dead Things 2.0
Larkin definitely doesn't wanna be in another city.
Here's my plan:
-Yzerman gets promoted to President of Hockey Operations
-Shawn Horcoff becomes GM, or we bring in someone else who is willing to be aggressive.
-Alex Tanguay needs to be fired. His systems don't work and he's out of ideas. Zone entries are putrid. It's all predictable dump and chase. He's part of the reason why 5 on 5 numbers are so terrible and he's been here under 3 different Coaches now. He needs to go.
-We need a second line Center. Go get Robert Thomas, or Trochek. Make it happen.
-The whole bottom 6 needs to be revamped.
-Rasmussen, Appleton, Hammonic, Compher, Chairot, van Riemsdyk, Copp, Perron all need to go.
-I've seen enough from Kasper to say that he's a bust. We needed him to step up this Season and he never did. I saw nothing of value from his play.
-We need passionate and physical players. Players that other Teams are afraid of. We need psychopaths. Guys that will take a pound of flesh if someone takes a run at Raymond like teams did with impunity all year long. We need guys who are real assholes and make it a nightmare to play against. We need grit and depth scoring from the bottom 6. Didn't get that at all this year.
-Cossa needs to be brought up full time. He has nothing left to prove at the AHL level with Grand Rapids. It's time for him to prove himself in the Show.
You're not trading Larkin. That would devastate the Locker room. Don't do what the Canucks did with Brock Boeser and Hughes.
This team showed for 55 games they could be a top 5 team.
It was a mental and heart issue.
Larkin? Loser who Hangs out with pedo protectors
Rasmussen? LOSER
Compher? Loser
Perron? WASHED
DANIELSSON? Future LOSER
Appleton? LOSER
That said, I disagree with Finnie maxing out as a fourth liner. He’s got mid 6. If Kasper can get his mental game going and play like his rookie season he’s also shown some potential.
SAYIN IT ALL YEAR!! THE f the Goalie doesn’t stand on his head – WE LOSE!!
Big Mac is a VERY GOOD COACH!!
But need another Scorer and people who can play D!
All you need to know about the culture is that a 5’7 Alex Debrincat played MUCH bigger than 6’6 Trashmussen and “character” guys like Appleton and Compher.
This team was fond good players and a bunch of trash cans
he should of kept his 2×4 behind the wings bench all season long as a reminder to this team?! 🤷♂️💪🤷♂️👍
I believe that this group will rebound next year. With some changes. Not much…just a little trade or the right free agent.
Let's move on and look forward to this coming late summer early fall
They will be better next year
When people who don't watch or know anything about hockey try to talk about hockey, we get conversations like this where we're putting a ceiling on a 20 year old kid who was drafted in the 7th round just two years ago and made the team playing on the top line for a significant portion of the season, saying he's a 4th liner at best, as if he hasn't developed astronomically already. And then want to focus on the top six like they're the problem. And then the doomer narrative spreads from there.
Raymond was playing hurt most of the year, Kane missed time early in the year. Larkin through December was one of the best 5 on 5 producers and having an incredible season, and then what happens? As the year goes on, he wears down because he has to produce all the offense, has to be out for every PK faceoff and kill penalties because they don't have guys down the lineup who can do that, and he's centering the top power play unit because they don't have someone else with the skills for that. Guy wears down because there's no depth. Anyone thinking that he's the problem is certifiably insane.
The depth is the issue, particularly in the bottom six. The PK went back to historically bad numbers in March and April because the bottom six doesn't have capable depth players to handle those responsibilities, so it gets left to the same guys who have to provide all the offense because they are also the best skaters and defenders. They simply need help. Yzerman deserves criticism for the roster construction, but it is absolutely more about the bottom six than the top. The top could use some help. A 2nd line center to push Copp into the bottom half would be great, and a winger for Larkin/Raymond would be ideal. But it's the bottom that needs a serious overhaul.
this 8-1 result with the minors roster of Panthers smells like mutiny against McLellan to me..i would trade both Larkin and Raymond if its true…plus the jerseys ofc
It seems like since the ownership passed to the kids. Its all gross profit. Not just the team winning.
Merch and arena sales first.
If you ignore the progress of the Wings, 57 more points than when Steve started, ignore Grand Rapids, ignore a current Hobie Baker and a Mike Richter winners, ignore the fact that the Wings that if they were in the Pacific they would be in second ahead of Edmonton who has two superstars and playoffs in the Central as #1 Wild Card.
Also, remember they have to rely on signing players with a connection to Detroit or to Sweden. Detroit is in a higher tax state and with miserable weather….6 months of overcast, then mud, then humidity and mosquitos, and then racking leaves. A supermajority of Stanley Cup finalist have been from sunny, low/no tax states. Steve is doing an incredible job. Todd looks like a coach, didn't coach them up, and threw them under the bus when he didn't produce as a coach…a nicer version than that moron Babcock.
Todd and stevie need to go. Rebuild the bottom six. Let’s see what cossa can do.
When you don’t get top 3 pick odds of getting a datsyuk/zetterburg type player are incredibly rare. I see this at this rate going another 3-5 years
Wings have lacked the heart and the will to win the games necessary to make the playoffs. They have tanked in games that were/are must win games. To make the playoffs in todays NHL you have to have some fire in the belly. Wings better get it together.
Fire Yzerman, then fire Chris
Yall keep giving all Detroit teams your business, and they will all continued to disappoint you for a long-time folks. The sad Detroit pistons get blown out in the 3rd round. Just watch.
yes all 3 coaches are wrong bottom line a few very good hockey players maybe 5 ….. no stars…..rest are garbage so its a lack go talent holland left us a mess, stevie partially at fault and horrible luck in 3 lotteries present players bottom 6-9 players are acountable, PP coach accountable lack depth, especially at center dump JVR, (was ok for 1 yr rental) dump compher…he stinks, dump Rassy….he stinks, dump Hamonic,…..he stinks dump kasper, not happening prob score 25 for someone else next yr, dump Perron, on fence about larkin and, kane Does debrincat get 41 goals without Kane? i think you subtract 10 -12 goals if no Kane Larkin coulda had 35 or 36 goals if he woulda stayed healthy (not shabby, but i don't think he deserves the "C") but still like him very good 2nd line car. need depth at center Gibby got burned out bring up costa, keep gabby 1 more yr bring up more kids and get a star on this team some way some how get grit, passion and heart type players thru free agency too a team of 80 percent grand rapids kids couldn't have done worse the last 1/3 plus of the season
For those that didnt get to watch the 97,98,02, &08 runs im sorry you have to watch this crap, but this is what happens when you have an owner just going through the motions and not wanting to spend or do anything extra to fix problems. Mr. I gave a crap, his son, not so much. Yzerman plays a role in this, you cant give him a pass. He took too long to pull the trigger on assets that had value until they depreciated by playing trivial minutes for a terrible pro team. Now you have a bunch ofnprospects whonhave shown they are injury prone and have done nothing special at the big boy level. A bigger problem might be qhats not discussed and thats yzermans ability to get something of value in free agency. Maybe, just maybe other gms don't like him, maybe just maybe steve rubs other gms the same way he does in hisnl pressers. Who knows for sure if that is part of the problem, but this is not good enough. If yze4man doesn't hit a home run in free agency in the off season, then maybe his gm skills are just outdated.
mo and cat are good larkins good, but maybe time to move him (not sure) Mo and Cat 2 best players hope for edvinsson to get more physical and for goshnsakes stand up for each other cheap shots on larkin last 2 yrs and this yr on gabby too no player does anything about it or very rarely get some team unity in the locker room brotherhood actually entire team more heart physicality grit and passion
Why did they let Bertuzzi leave
Its only gonna get tuffer to get i play off spots from now on they need supers stars again
DEAD NUTS RIGHT ON
When did the DETROIT REDWINGS become “SOL”???? Smh.
Probert, Kocur, Konstantinov, McCarty, Maltby, Sahanahan …is there ANYbody remotely like that on the team???? never mind we generally had 2 or 3 of them…look back on those Colorado melee's… hell, the freaking goalie stepped up
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