Winning the Cup is hard. Not sure Id say I thought theyd for sure win a Cup by now. I watched the Sharks be great for a decade and max out at 1 Cup Final. But I definitely thought theyd have atleast 1 Conference Finals under their belt by now.
1UP4UScoobydoo
Could’ve, should’ve, didn’t. Thanks Keefer and good luck at next city.
MsAbsoluteAngel
Keefe was eating well during his time here thats for sure.
haydenz23
End of an era, for sure. Wish that era involved more winning, but I can’t lie and say this post made me a bit sad. Hope Keefe is successful elsewhere and we get the coach we need.
Beavie_
I thought we’d at least make the Conference finals at least once.
twofactorial
I liked both these guys but they were essentially rookies in their respective roles and made mistakes that they will learn from, but not here when we need to win now
JustinTyme92
I will say, that I knew 100% we weren’t winning a cup with Dubas at the helm after the Matthews deal.
They gave Matthews 8yr money on a 5yr deal – I didn’t like the Nylander deal either because of term, but the Matthews deal was a stinker for the team.
Then by the time the Marner deal happened, I knew.
Dubas was more interested in creating a “safe space” for the players and he was so obsessed with “driving a culture” that had no history of success.
The NHL is a tough league. Toronto is an intense market. The Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy in sports to win.
There’s no room for being soft. You can be fair, but you have to be firm.
Dubas created an environment where the inmates run the asylum and the warden makes sure they all get their right flavoured juice box and nobody can criticize the way they make a mess drinking it.
Ill-Team-3491
We we’re supposed to have one before Tavares became an old man.
hatcherhullmodano
Tell us you’re under 35 without telling us you’re under 35
JesusJohn
So hiring a rookie GM and a rookie coach is a bad idea for success? Seems like a no brainer.
How the hell is shanahan not fired today?
JesusJohn
We couldn’t and we didn’t! (Even get close)
radman888
You did?
Maineamainea
Appreciate the optimism, the closest I get is really hope we have a cup by the time I die.
Split_Finger19
Winning the Cup is hard. But I expected a few conference finals by now
Halflife84
Watching the highlights of the Vancouver and Edmonton game. They both play better as a team, the passing etc is all way better.
I’m beginning to question why I’m a leafs fan at all.
DC-Toronto
Tell me you didn’t see them lose to Montreal without saying it.
It was obvious at that point that they weren’t a playoff team. I could see giving another year because of the JT injury and the impact that might have on the room but it has been clear for several years they weren’t going to make it far.
I hope this is just the start
arvtovi
I’d like to just add that it seems they (Shanahan and whoever) tried to find some kind of “market inefficiency” hiring young inexperienced whiz kids to run the most important hockey team in the league.
Intelligent_Chair901
Dubas had absolutely no clue how to build a team and negotiate contracts for RFA’s. He set the franchise back years. Keefe’s unsuccessful runs over the last number of years were due to Dubas’ failed attempts at building a playoff caliber roster. The Leafs are at least in a better place now but this isn’t an overnight fix.
robotinforest
TOO SOFT
smokey_eyez
Wasted too many years experimenting.
elcabeza79
Yeah well, maybe in Pittsburgh.
ghdtyjksbjt
lol are you serious?
MadFlava76
Damn Keefe really aged in his time with the Leafs. I guess stress will do that to you.
DiscussionBeautiful
I won’t miss getting downvoted from the beginning for not being a fan of this pair of losers. They stole years of what could have been glorious. Kyle fooled everyone with slick words and his homeboy got out-coached on almost every playoff game. Downvote me if you got fooled.
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They were the chosen ones
Winning the Cup is hard. Not sure Id say I thought theyd for sure win a Cup by now. I watched the Sharks be great for a decade and max out at 1 Cup Final. But I definitely thought theyd have atleast 1 Conference Finals under their belt by now.
Could’ve, should’ve, didn’t.
Thanks Keefer and good luck at next city.
Keefe was eating well during his time here thats for sure.
End of an era, for sure. Wish that era involved more winning, but I can’t lie and say this post made me a bit sad. Hope Keefe is successful elsewhere and we get the coach we need.
I thought we’d at least make the Conference finals at least once.
I liked both these guys but they were essentially rookies in their respective roles and made mistakes that they will learn from, but not here when we need to win now
I will say, that I knew 100% we weren’t winning a cup with Dubas at the helm after the Matthews deal.
They gave Matthews 8yr money on a 5yr deal – I didn’t like the Nylander deal either because of term, but the Matthews deal was a stinker for the team.
Then by the time the Marner deal happened, I knew.
Dubas was more interested in creating a “safe space” for the players and he was so obsessed with “driving a culture” that had no history of success.
The NHL is a tough league. Toronto is an intense market. The Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy in sports to win.
There’s no room for being soft. You can be fair, but you have to be firm.
Dubas created an environment where the inmates run the asylum and the warden makes sure they all get their right flavoured juice box and nobody can criticize the way they make a mess drinking it.
We we’re supposed to have one before Tavares became an old man.
Tell us you’re under 35 without telling us you’re under 35
So hiring a rookie GM and a rookie coach is a bad idea for success? Seems like a no brainer.
How the hell is shanahan not fired today?
We couldn’t and we didn’t! (Even get close)
You did?
Appreciate the optimism, the closest I get is really hope we have a cup by the time I die.
Winning the Cup is hard. But I expected a few conference finals by now
Watching the highlights of the Vancouver and Edmonton game. They both play better as a team, the passing etc is all way better.
I’m beginning to question why I’m a leafs fan at all.
Tell me you didn’t see them lose to Montreal without saying it.
It was obvious at that point that they weren’t a playoff team. I could see giving another year because of the JT injury and the impact that might have on the room but it has been clear for several years they weren’t going to make it far.
I hope this is just the start
I’d like to just add that it seems they (Shanahan and whoever) tried to find some kind of “market inefficiency” hiring young inexperienced whiz kids to run the most important hockey team in the league.
Dubas had absolutely no clue how to build a team and negotiate contracts for RFA’s. He set the franchise back years. Keefe’s unsuccessful runs over the last number of years were due to Dubas’ failed attempts at building a playoff caliber roster. The Leafs are at least in a better place now but this isn’t an overnight fix.
TOO SOFT
Wasted too many years experimenting.
Yeah well, maybe in Pittsburgh.
lol are you serious?
Damn Keefe really aged in his time with the Leafs. I guess stress will do that to you.
I won’t miss getting downvoted from the beginning for not being a fan of this pair of losers. They stole years of what could have been glorious. Kyle fooled everyone with slick words and his homeboy got out-coached on almost every playoff game. Downvote me if you got fooled.
Never was a fan of Keefe, especially after reading about his minor hockey legacy as one of the Four Horsemen off the Hockey Apocalypse
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