On this episode of The Basu and Godin Notebook, a basis for Guhle’s next contract? (0:00), The parameters of a Dach/Newhook type of trade (14:45), Kent Johnson (16:30), a Patrik Laine sidebar (30:00, Anton Lindell (34:40), Dylan Holloway (41:15), bigger swings: Trevor Zegras (52:00) and Martin Necas (1:09:50), lesser Dach/Newhook deals (1:21:15) AND a farewell to Future Friday…for now (1:25:30)
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Recorded: April 26th, 2024
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How about Zegras AND Necas?! Then draft Lindstrom to round out the top nine 😉
I'm with you Basu, if you get a chance to move Anderson's contract for a talent like Zegras, you jump at the opportunity. No point waiting to try and revive him in Montreal.
RIP the great Bob Cole, called the last Hab's championship 🙏
So you’re saying there is a 17% to pick first or second lol
That Zegras deal idea has a smell of Drouin for Sergachev to it…
Arpon you have to remember Godin is apart of the French media. They LOVE their french Canadian kids and parting away of Mailloux is an anathema to them. Its why you have Laraque pining for Dubois and he isn't alone. You have plenty of French media pundits saying we can reform him. that he will play to his full potential here.
Reinbacher is a beast. He is big, he is fast, he has great hands and he is a much better defender then Mailloux. He is better then Mailloux in every way, yet Godin says Mailloux will be the better offensive player? That shows his French bias.
The idea that you can hope to see improvement from Anderson, like what world is this going to happen. Do you know why his point totals have been dropping every year? Its because Marty has instituted a east west style of play. Montreal for the LONGEST time was a north south team under Beregivin. He wanted this style and he got it from his coaches. Anderson is a north south player and has a very specific style of play that fits this style. Montreal does not play this way anymore. Montreal is constantly trying to activate their defense into rushes, using passes and holding onto pucks to enter the offensive zone. This is the style of offense you want to see, its what I wanted for so long. And Marty is bringing it into Montreal. But the problem for Josh is that this doesn't fit his style. There is no way we are going to see a revitalization of Anderson. I just don't see it.
What does Josh Anderson do best? He dumps the puck in and chases and bangs the boards. This is not what Marty wants. He wants his D to carry the puck and use their vision to pass to wingers when the opponent commits to stopping him. He wants wingers and forwards to play with more intelligence to set up attacks. Not just cycle the boards. Why do you think Slafkovsky is excelling in this style? He is a power forward like Anderson. Yet he has several advantages over Anderson. He has vision, he has the ability to hold the puck and wait for players to get open. This isn't Anderson's game. Anderson North South player. Slafkovsky East West player. You see the difference?
I agree with you Arpon. I would love a trade like this. Move Anderson, the Jets 1st rounder and Mailloux for Zegras. You are not getting a Zegras type player at pick 26 or 27 where the Jets pick will land. Moving Anderson and freeing that cap space for players that fit Marty's system is important. This would be a great trade for Montreal.
I’m glad that Arpon isn’t Montreal GM. Zegras will make us soft. Skill yes but isn’t the type of playoff player that we need
Get me Necas and trade Anderson next summer. We don’t need that cap space yet
Trevor Zegras is easily the most overrated young player in the NHL. Unless ANA is willing to let him go for relatively very cheap, I'm a solid 'no' on any Zegras trade. DEFINITELY not for Reinbacher or Mailloux.
if the ducks were willing to do Mailloux, Anderson and the jets 1st Zegras would be a Hab already, needs to be Reinbacher I feel sadly
Ghule is already showing he is worth it..what big injuries lol. He played 70 games this yr and most last yr..Hes big physical blocks shots and enough offensive but will only get better so its a no brainer to sign him now long term
Am seriously disappointed in this discussion specifically about Zegras. Both of you have previously mentioned that our Habs LACK physicality… Now you're talking about Caufield Zegras RHP Mesar Newhook Beck ???
We already get pushed around. Adding Z makes us a joke
Count me in on a trade for Laine. Especially if Columbus retains salary.
YAY! Oh What a day!
But for real, I love your podcast and really value your opinions. keep it up!
trading reinbacher is coocoo bananas. Zegras isn't what we need.
Mailloux or Reinbacher both 1st round picks Had Logan not asked to be left out of the draft where was he expected to be picked Top 10 Keep the Frenchman in Montreal from Belle Riviêr
There is no way Habs give up either of Mailloux or Reinbacher for Necas. Both have significant odds at becoming better than Necas long term.
What's the rush with trades, this team isn't winning anything anytime soon.
Who cares about making the playoffs if they're not good enough to win the cup.
For that Laine trade proposition, instead of Clb retaining on Laine, what if Mtl adds Anderson to the deal and adds a sweetener (Win 1st + Mesar?) Anderson adds some character and grit, goes back to clb, mtl takes a gamble on Laine and clears term
Interesting debate on the Zegras trade idea. Godin said something that irk me a little bit tho. He said that trading Josh Anderson now would be trading him at his lowest value with I agree, but it is also the same for Trevor Zegras. Although his two way game improved, his offensive production dropped significantly and he spent most of the year off the ice with some gnarly injuries. Waiting a full season to give Josh Anderson a chance to recover a bit of trade value does the exact same for Zegras, expect that Zegras's ceiling is much higher than the 20 goals freight train Anderson has been at his best.
if you trading Josh Anderson right now makes a Zegras deal work, you do it.
Thanks for all the work you two put in this season. It was a Blast listening to them all. Looking forward to more draft content as we approach the lottery and the actual draft. Hope you guys some rest/time off after the playoffs! Go Habs go.
Zegras is good and would help but the thought of Hutson – Reinbacher and Guhle – Mailloux pairings for the next 10ish years would make me pass easily….
PHIL TOMASINO.
I wonder about Arthur Kaliyev
I think when the dust settles it will be struble that is traded. Not because the Canadiens don't want to keep him, but they would rather keep Mailloux and Reibacher and Struble will be the peice that other teams want the most
Basu with the Fins hat. Smart man
I think Mialoux will be a top 2 D-man. I think he’ll be better then Reinbacher, and is more an overall rounded then Reinbacher.
I feel the negative situation that involved Mialoux has people down playing his ability
What about Baron, Harris, Anderson, and Winnipeg’s 1st, with some kind of retention via a 3 team trade for Zegris. My worry is he is small and lacks in playoffs, I don’t see him as gritty as Caulfield.
And no offence Arpon I don’t think Reinbacher is good as Mialoux and think you are over valuing Reinbacher, and underestimating Mialoux on ice intelligence. Didn’t break first yr Dman record in the AHL for no reason.
Not a fan of trading Mailloux or Reinbacher.
If i were to build a trade for Zegras id try something like Anderson, Barron, 1st of Jets and 1st of Flames next year.
Would have liked to hear what you think a Mercer trade would cost?
issue with reinbacher for zegras is that the argument will be made that why didn't the habs draft michkov, benson, leonard instead of reinbacher if they were going to do that. 100% zegras would be compared to those 3 forwards even more than reinbacher himself as they all develop
godin is having tunnel vision regarding his relunctance to trade josh anderson thinking he can rebound. hes not looking at zegras who had 16 points this year who is wayyyyyyyy more likely to bounce back to his top line 65+ pt ways. an anderson bounce back is what? 35-40 pts? not even close
Don't wanna get rid of reinbacher just yet. He has the potential to be the best amongst all our young D. Would hate to have another sergachev / McDonagh situation
If you have good pro scouts, you should be able to get the right players in trades.
Zegras for reinbacker is a 100% no go , zegras has a big contract coming of his worst season and was hurt alot . Now Laine to play 2nd line wing sounds good to me .
Kent Johnson – 21yo, 6'1", 168 lbs, LW/C – Lots of skill, coming off an injury, pretty one dimensional. I could see him flourishing under MSL, but I could also see him becoming Drouin at his worst.
Patrik Laine – 26yo, 6'5", 206 lbs, RW – Someone is going to buy low on Laine and if he has found his game, it'll be an absolute steal. I really hope he finds the place that will support him properly. MTL is probably too busy for him, and he doesn't really fit our timeline.
Anton Lundell – 22yo, 6'1", 185 lbs, C – Probably a good middle six forward. Doesn't have the offensive upside I think MTL will be looking for. I think Florida really likes him.
Dylan Holloway – 22yo, 6'1", 203 lbs, LW/C – Could be a physical top-six player. Had good chemistry with Caufield. Don't think Edmonton will trade him.
Trevor Zegras – 23yo, 6'0", 185 lbs, C/LW – Highly skilled. Possible point-per-game player in the near future. Some bad blood between him and ANA management. Finished the season injured. I think it would take a big package to get him. Might be a headache if we did.
Martin Necas – 25yo, 6'2", 189 lbs, RW – Had 71 points last season. Needs a new contract and CAR maybe doesn't want to pay him. Would take a lot to get him, but he'd fit the top-six for sure.
Alexander Holtz – 22yo, 6'0", 192 lbs, RW/LW – Wasn't being used much under Ruff. Looks like a breakout candidate. Top end scoring talent. Not sure why New Jersey would trade him, but if they do, he'd be a great fit in MTL.
Cole Sillinger – 20yo, 6'0", 197 lbs, C – Still very young, all-around good player. Highly doubt CBJ would trade him, but maybe he wants a new start outside of the chaos of Columbus.
Arthur Kalieyev – 22yo, 6'2", 190 lbs, RW/LW – Solid scoring prospect with good size, but isn't getting much opportunity in LA. Needs a new contract. I don't think KH goes this direction.
Cole Perfetti – 22yo, 5'11", 177 lbs, LW – Smaller skilled forward who hasn't been getting a lot of minutes in Winnipeg. I think he'd be a good fit, but I expect KH will want somebody with more size.
Kent Johnson sounds right.
What is Arpon's Zegras Boner about!! He's small soft and doesn't play D, why would the Canadiens want that?
Zegras as a give away maybe
Get Mailloux and Reinbacher off of your lips, they aren't going anywhere. They are the future of the RD spots for the Habs.
Zegras….I am on the fence. Not worth Anderson Mailloux or Reinbacher and picks.
Anderson and 2 firsts, (Winnipeg's and Calgary's). I wouldn't give up more than that
I'd give Laine a try as he is a potential gamebreaker. Kakko can be a good middle 6 add on the cheap also. Extra talent on the roster