Edmonton, we have a problem… but is it ALL on the coach? Let’s talk about it in today’s Day After Discussion. #oilers #edmontonoilers #nhl
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Oiler GM failed. Probably the worst GM in the league. Only question is why? Oiler cup window closed when Holloway and Broberg left. Period. McDavid did not stay because he really felt the Oilers could win. He HOPED they could win. McDavid stayed because he is a leader and felt him leaving would leave the guys in the room hanging. McDavid stayed for the guys in the room. This summer I hope he places himself first and asks for a trade to Colorado. That is the only way he ever gets back to the final in his career.
The road trip will determine whether the Oilers make the playoffs. Theyâre simply being passed on the freeway by Utah, Ducks, Sharks, Kraken. Leafs west as the Leafs are Oilers east being passed by Red Wings, Canadiens, Sabres. I give them a 40% chance of making the playoffs.
I've commented on this so much it's starting to give me an ulcer. Let's make this simple. What's changed between this season and last season. Paul Coffey. Knoblauch was a junior coach, and still is. Paul leaves, and surprise, surprise, the team goes to sh*t. Paul Coffey is the greatest defenseman that has ever played hockey. Better then Orr. Better than Bourque. Better than Lidstrom. The opposition had to have a gameplan to beat Paul much like they do against Connor. The hockey gods thought it would be funny to give Paul all that talent, and a broken back, so go ahead and dispute who's the best. His coaching demeanor reminds me of Sather. Not a guy you like to argue with. Now take away that grit and finish that Kane and Perry shared. Something I read Paul didn't like. The Stanley Cup only goes to the most desperate, roughest, talented, and most organized team. Now the Oilers only have one out of the four. I like Knob, good family man. Nice is not a prerequisite to win a Stanley Cup. Make Paul Coffey the head coach while there's still time. Get organized. Get meaner in a hell of a hurry. This is the last vent on the Oilers. These guys are killing me man. Love the show man. I'm liking it better than Oilersnation. You should get a partner though
Bring back Pickard. Give him a chance to get us to the playoffs. I know heâs gonna get us there. Please!
Miss the playoffs I hope. Second choice Colorado-Edmonton Round 1 over in 4 games. Best for the Oilers and McDavid if he goes to Colorado in the off season.
Frederic was going backwards in Boston, came to the Oilers and flat and was rewarded with an 8 year contract. That is not normal so why is Bowman sinking the Oilers? Who is benefiting?
honestly, I really miss those old teams from a few years ago. They were fun to watch and exciting, I will never forget the 2022-23 oilers under jaywoodcroft and how exciting the playoffs were that year. the only other fun playoffs was 2 years ago against LA and last years series vs Dallas
Somethings gotta give with KK. I understand the Canes are very good and were average at best, if this doesnât mean any sort of wake up call then I donât know what will. Patience for me is running very thin
2:14 im picking up what you're putting down. Just gave myself unc status too
Can we fire knob already
Last year lineup was deep and dominating over all top teams , until game 3 (vs florida finals), when Kane, Brown , Perry ALL got disrespected in locker room as being …(non important ) and followed by every media outlet pushing conner drai ONLY focus then it ALL FELL APART AS REST OF THE PLAYERS SAID SCREW IT , DO IT BY YOURSELF THEN … AND IT WAS ALL OVER SINCE THEN .
Are you delusional. How can you say Nurse is okay. The Oilers will not take the cup as long as Nurse is on the team
No, itâs all on the goalie and porous defense
How are new players supposed to get used to a new team in they are on 4 different lines in a game? They can't…
When Knobby answered Gregorâs question he went on to say âperhaps it is because Conner & Leon are getting tired later in games!â
Gee knobby why do they get so tired late in games? They have been played to the point of exhaustion by you ffs!
Picks should have been made starter after Stu left , Jarry and Ingram need more time to gel, but the D was glorified with huge raise , and gave them a pass for all the screwups instead of fixing issues . Jarry and Ingram can't get comfy with the pylon abismal D play , which never tries to improve because they were shielded by Connor influence . till now that it's all broken .
Like last 3 years , only way to playoffs is with CALVIN …. PERIOD. After that the team has to be tweaked to endure . but won't be as capable as they were last year without Kane and Perry . it just a is fact. there is a way but they may not realize till to late , or possibly ever with current status quo mindsets .
Lol Jarry.
Team will have to miss playoffs before they fire knob I think – his time has come
They are going no where. There is no team when the coach only plays the same 2 players all tbe time(McDavid & Drysital). The one thought that has come to my mind is if they don't make the play offs McDavid is never going to sign another contract in 2 years when his is done. He will be another page of history. I can't think of a team that has wasted more first round picks and won nothing than the Oilers. Definitely sad times in Oil Country. Oh a by the way punt Knoblock and find a coach with passion.
Last yearâs fourth line was better. But Dach is unlikely to be here long, so if itâs Samanski or someone decent, it looks better than with Dach most likely. The top nine is better this year, and the defence remains to be seen but perhaps slightly better last year.
(The price for Faulk looks pretty good as an alternative to Murphy at this point)
Frederick is looking better and I think he might still be coming back from injury so letâs see. Henrique might end up off the roster and his replacement might be an improvement.
Iâd say the lineups are similar and potentially better this year. How they play at any given point in the regular season has been proven many times not relevant to the final product.
Foegel, who blew up after leaving Edm, was also not great before knoblaugh, so that shows his glow up was independent of Knobs. McLeod was also just âgoodâ before and during Knob, so his glow up seems independent.
Holloway and Brobs may have gotten a bump from several things: showing the Oilers up for not signing them, getting better roles in St Louis, and getting older since they were both quite young. Maybe even more man strength. Thatâs not to discount the possible role of knob, but things are always multi varied causes.
Players leave the Oilers and get to play a lot more and in more situations, that does not happen with Mcdavid and Draisaital around …players need to play, feel part of it, its quite simple on my mind
S you
you really want DeBoer tho?
I am hopeful it's the coach, but I'm worried some of it has to do with core personnel in the locker room too. That being said, I think that a coach definitely has a role in helping, you know, COACH those players and be a resource that helps your core players be successful leaders.
I was always a Jay Woodcroft fan .. they bumped him way to soon this line mixing monkey they have no allows no time to even build cohesion in the lines before hes swapping them out
I think this season is toast for Edmonton. Start actually rolling 4 lines evenly and see what you have for Players on this team. Then fix it in the summer. Coach is gone either way. For now, even out the minutes. Even if it's 3 lines. Teams figure out 1 line pretty quick. Even when it is stacked with 2 of the NHL's best
Knobloch a knob. Oilers don't deserve to go to the playoffs look at Florida both teams are worn out !!!! We need an actual goalie and some fucking defence man . And a tuff guy ..
Looks like the old team is so so slow
Knob has trust issues, I guess
Over playing Drai and McDavid outside of the power play has ruined this team. Opponents only need to watch film on 2 guys to beat the Oil. Other talented players go to waste, become disengaged, and disgruntled. Knobby looks desperate and relies on tired talent to often.
The coach is the easy target because heâs visible, itâs Jeff Jacksonâs and bowmanâs mismanagement over the last two years putting the coach in an tough spot, cmon people! Look deeper.
true; key front(ie MdD and Draisaitl) are hugely LESS motivated and whole team generally not connected with rest of team. bad coach; generating -anything with good guys
I could have coached this team to the finals the last 2 Yrs
When you were discussing the players, you forgot about the goalies, and last season the goalies were better
than the Ingram/Jarry pairing. đIn fact, the defense was better last year too.
100% on the management, not the coaches. THey had 10 years to get a proven goalie
Pickard and Ingram duo. If they want to make playoffs.
Cocky team they dont take the teams serious. Sleep walk after goals. Amateur coach.
McDavid will never win a Cup in Edmonton.
The exception that proves Gregor wrong is the impact that Coffey had last year on the defense core:
He was the first to admit he's "not an X's & O's guy" – but the impact was huge and immediate. All the guys did how much his words and presence mattered.
So to try and pretend like coaches personalities don't rub off on their teams is intentional ignorance, quite frankly.
And I do appreciate Gregor's commentary but I think he's just backwards on that one
Less than 20 games left. Miss the playoffs and rest. Regroup for next season. McDavid needs rest.
we got new players and what does knob do sit them to play MCDRY nuclear option and its getting very very old and this does not work .
Neat discussion đ
As someone who works in leadership, If i had a team of solid people who had been known for their work in previous jobs, but I couldn't get the best out of them? I would blame myself more than anyone. Nevermind the best, Knob consistently gets the worst out of these guys
I've been saying this for a while now. The Oilers seem to have a morale and motivation issue. It is the coach's job to fix that. Knobs hasn't, so this is on him. Austin, I disagree. If the Oilers do not make it to the playoffs which is unthinkable but possible, knobs will be held accountable.