Last week Sean Shapiro released an exercise where he asked several folks in the Detroit media to rank the Red Wings top-23 players on the roster. One of those people was Brian! So today we compare and contrast Brian’s list with where the average ranking of each player in Sean’s list. #LGRW
Read Sean’s article here: https://www.shapshotshockey.com/p/ranking-the-detroit-red-wings-roster
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I'm ready for Compher, Rasmussen, and Berger to be supplanted by Lombardi, Finnie, and Danielson.
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I think Seider is #1
Copp = dump and loiter. Compher = Mr. zero compete. Time to get rid of both of them. And please dont with the Copp does the little things argument. Copp has the same stone hands of Draper with no where near the speed or compete level.
points/60 the last 2 years (omitting empty net)
Dylan Larkin 2.53
Lucas Raymond 2.83
Alex DeBrincat 2.76
Patrick Kane 2.86
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Red Wings points per 60, Dec 14 on (53 games)
PATRICK KANE, 3.35
Lucas Raymond, 3.06
Alex DeBrincat, 2.96
Dylan Larkin, 2.67
empty net scoring, Dec 14 on
Raymond 2/5/7
Larkin 3/4/7
Cat 2/1/3
Kane 0/1/1
5v5 pts/60, +/-, Dec 14 on
Raymond 1.47 -9
Larkin 1.62 -7
Cat 1.95 +4
Kane 1.93 +3
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GWG the last 2 years
Larkin 150 GP, 8 GWG
Raymond 164 GP, 9 GWG
DeBrincat 164 GP, 5 GWG
Kane 122 GP, 13 GWG
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on-ice GF/60 on the power play the last 2 years
DylLarkin 10.49 GF/60
Raymond 9.84 GF/60
DeBrincat 10.52 GF/60
PatKane 11.19 GF/60
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Empty Net Scoring the last 2 years
Larkin 7g/7a/14pts
Raymond 5g/8a/13pts
DeBrincat 3g/1a/4pts
Kane 0g/1a/1pt
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5v5 pts/60 and 5v5 plus minus, last 2 years
Larkin 1.79/60, plus minus 0
Raymond 2.03/60, minus 16
DeBrincat 2.01/60, plus 17
Kane 1.85/60, plus 5
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GF% at 5v5 with and without various other players, last 2 years
Dylan Larkin
GF% at 5v5 with Patrick Kane 66.67%
GF% at 5v5 without Patrick Kane 40.16%
GF% at 5v5 with Lucas Raymond 46.63%
GF% at 5v5 without Lucas Raymond 61.22%
Alex DeBrincat
GF% at 5v5 with Patrick Kane 55.67%
GF% at 5v5 without Patrick Kane 41.79%
GF% at 5v5 with Lucas Raymond 52.00%
GF% at 5v5 without Lucas Raymond 55.30%
Marco Kasper
GF% at 5v5 with Patrick Kane 69.23%
GF% at 5v5 without Patrick Kane 44.44%
GF% at 5v5 with Lucas Raymond 56.00%
GF% at 5v5 without Lucas Raymond 48.89%
Moritz Seider
GF% at 5v5 with Patrick Kane 60.42%
GF% at 5v5 without Patrick Kane 42.96%
GF% at 5v5 with Lucas Raymond 44.34%
GF% at 5v5 without Lucas Raymond 54.48%
if Larkin is 1, Raymond is 2 or 3, DeBrincat 4, Kasper is 6, Kane is 7, please explain how…
a line of 1, 4, and 7 is so much better the last 2 years than a line of 1, 2/3, and 4
a line of 4, 6 and 7 was so much better than a line of 1, 2/3, and 6 last year
4 and 7 have so much better actual results than 1 and 2
7 has somehow been on the best lines each of the last 2 years, and everyone else's GF% at 5v5 falls off a cliff wo him
7 has by a mile the best on-ice GF/60 on the power play the last 2 years, and that is the Wings main strength as a team as of last year
7 has so much better stats than 6
From Dec 14 to April 12 the day the Wings were eliminated, omitting empty net
Lark 53 GP, 15g/25a/40pts
Ray 53 GP, 14g/29a/43pts
Cat 53 GP, 25g/19a/44pts
Kasp 52 GP, 14g/12a/26pts
Kane 48 GP, 18g/30a/48pts
I'm all for projecting and I'm bullish on Marco, he can be a great player, but as of now you are ranking a half a point a game forward over a point a game forward. If you ever want to measure the homerism boost, I think we just got a good measure on it. Check back in a couple few months or a year and these may be accurate but based on what we've actually seen in the NHL, not accurate as of last news we had.