The Detroit Red Wings need to get better this off-season. But with a full roster and cap-space that is shrinking, they need to make room. Who are the leadining candidates for that? Justin Holl? Olli Maatta? Jeff Petry? Also, The point system kinda sucks, we’ll chat about it. #LGRW
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31 Comments
Right dmen are always in demand and some gm will think they can work with holl. He’d easily find a taker imo at 50% retention no need to add assets to move . Make copp available at 3-3.5 and ship him off as well
Can someone explain why Justin Holl didn’t play? I’ve looked everywhere and couldn’t find a reason why
😂can’t compare holl to Marc staal trade ffs , steal had a 5.5 hit and holl at 50% is 1,7 mill . Come on
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Detroit really only needs a 2c and maybe 2 rh def. Problem will be finding them. I would say goaltender. But with that husso contract it would be tough.
Nobody is taking jeff petry lmao . Throw him in the buyout dumpster and be rid of him . Much rather have Albert johansson in his spot . Time to take out the trash this summer
1000% Robby Fabbri needs to take a hike. Enough is enough the youth movement is now . Kasper,soderblom,mazur,Berggren all in contention for spots as well as free agency/trade . Yzerman needs to get rid of a lot of guys
Could we Stevie Y pull DeMelo out of Winnipeg and Duchene out of Dallas to replace Petry/Holl and Reimer?
Husso is who is going to cost us to move, which is funny considering the goalie market. Husso is better off getting a fresh start elsewhere at this point in his career. I think mgmt would be better off to run Reimer, Lyon, and possibly picking up someone else. Holl, Maatta, and Chiarot should be able to be moved while gaining assets – whether that's roster space, picks, or part of a bigger deal. Petry ain't going anywhere is my part of my take. I don't think Ghost will come back, but who knows. Kane would be awesome to get back. Fischer was a great add on the bottom six. Fabbri could be moved. Perron should be signed for another year or two as the first precedent imo. The biggest mistake would be to buy anyone out or retain salary on any transactions at this point in time as I think it would be better to give picks of equitable value salary-wise if that's required to make space.
You could also trade holl and a 3rd for a 4th. That gives the team you're trading with incentive, while also not retaining salary, you also maybe have less of a pool to pick from in the 4th, but you're not just giving away a pic for nothing
My opinion is that the simplest fix is the tie breaker. First tie breaker being total wins, if that’s a tie, then regulation/OT wins, then idk, goal differential? But, im ultimately in favor of a point system upgrade in conjunction with the tie breakers being amended.
Trade Justin Holl? For what? A pack of smokes? Holl shouldn't have been signed in the first place. I thought Yzerman knew how to judge talent. Not in this case.
Edaby eidaby odiby this ain't where Petry spoda be !
Just to add, Marc Staal was not retained at 50%. The whole $5.7 million contract was taken with a second round pack. 🎉
So…basically I think two lines are set at forward and 4 defensemen are more or less locked:
Cat-Larkin-Raymond (1st line)
Rasmussen-Copp-Fisher (resigns) (3rd line)
Seider-Walmann
Edvinnson-Chiarot
Other than that…Compher, Veleno and Petry, possibly Maata are all coming back resigning Kane would be great, possibly keeping Peron?
Ghost is likely gone. Hopefully either Ed or Mo can pick up most of the PP minutes.
Now, ideally (how this would work with the cap is a different question).
2nd line Kane-Compher?-Bergren
4th line Mazur-Veleno-Kasper
And probably third pairing of Petry-Maata? Or perhaps Ed and Petry had some chemistry, so swap Chiarot and Petry? If another of the kids is ready to come up, one of the three is replaceable.
If by chance one of the young centers (Marco?) could keep up with Kane that would be amazing. Because 2nd line center really is the biggest need by far. And I am intrigued by the idea of another 2 kids and a goat line (Kane-Kasper-Bergren/Mazur). I actually like the idea of Mazur on that line if he is ready.
Now the real questions is will this be good enough? And I think the answer here is, no idea, but they would be playing 4/5 rookies? This could either really good or really really bad. And of course, at some point those kids have to crack the lineup. Ed and Burgers are over ripe.
Goalies? Husso/Lyon come back and split duties. – this however should be the second priority after figuring out the 2C situation.
So…let see.
Cat-Larkin-Raymond
Kane/Mazur-Compher/Kasper-Mazur/Bergren
Rasmussen-Copp-Fisher
Veleno-Mazur/Kasper/Fabri/Soderblom…Also, slot DP here if he is still with the team next season.
Walman-Seider
Edvinson-Petry
Chiarot-Johansson
Maata
Husso/Lyon (pretty much half/half split)
I don't know…something like this and hoping the kids become what we hope for them to become. Dealing some pieces for a 2C (or getting rid of some for a FA acquisition) should be an idea.
I fully support the NHL trying a new point system for at least 3yrs. 3 for RW win, 2 for OT win, 1 for OT loss
The talk on here about Steve making trades or signing free agents scares me. Past results show it isn't his strong point. Next year, it's unlikely the Wings will improve as they will be taking up more guys from GR. Give Steve another 3 to 4 years, and we will make the playoffs. Of course, by that time, Larkin's window will be closing, and they will be trying to move on from Cat.
Some games worth 3 points, others worth 2 points, never made sense. 2 pts for a win in reg or OT, if OT expires, game is a tie, 1 pt for both, scrap the shootout.
I would argue that Petry's contract isn't nearly as movable as one might think. He has a NMC, after all. In a perfect world, he simply retires. What we need to do is find out if there's any team out there who wants Holl, and find out what it'll take to sweeten the pot enough to get a team to take him. Edit: The "loser point" has been a part of the NHL since 1921, so I sincerely doubt it's going anywhere. The best you can hope for is a 3-2-1 setup.
I almost feel like you'd have to give something up for someone taking Holl. Like Holl and a 3rd for a 7th. Lol
Just make each game worth 3 points.
Reg win = 3 / Reg loss = 0
OT win = 2 / OT loss = 1
They are incentivizing regulation wins and points.
Justin is a great defensive defensemen
You guys need to stop simping for Yzerman on here. Been 5 years and no playoffs. In a real job in a year if you weren't successful you'd be gone. I get sports is different but this year should have been playoffs. It's been long enough to start criticizing him and also his hire at coach who clearly cost the wings a playoff spot with his inability to motivate the team night in and night out. No consistent effort. Yzerman looking flabbergasted people are questioning Lalonde really annoyed me. Also his contracts- Copp was clearly overpaid, Debrincat was clearly overpaid I don't see him as a 40 goal scorer although he has some good playmaking ability and then Holl and Petry which neither made sense.
I really don't think Petry is moving.
Buyout Petry
Repeat, repeat, repeat! let me repeat, you guys beat all the dead horses to death. You could cut your air time by 66% and still transmit the same amount of information. Only my hunger for Wings news motivates me to watch you sometimes. Do I need to repeat?
my god you are repeating again
Wings should grab Marner.
Maybe package burger, two picks, and an AHL depth move?
We would need Toronto to retain but who knows anything can happen.
It seems odd to me that most hockey players play left-handed when most of them are right-handed naturally.
It’s not that way in other sports.
I need to understand this.
If you have to retain 50% and would give up a pick then buy out is probably better