[Sas] Sounds like the Canucks are looking to move Anthony Beauvillier instead of Conor Garland now. Tocchet likes Garland’s game. With Blueger nearing a return and Höglander playing solid, there’s a logjam up front.
[Sas] Sounds like the Canucks are looking to move Anthony Beauvillier instead of Conor Garland now. Tocchet likes Garland’s game. With Blueger nearing a return and Höglander playing solid, there’s a logjam up front.
That’s fine, but isn’t it Garland that wanted to be moved? Maybe the winning is changing things – it usually does.
Morty777
This is what I’ve been saying all season, gotta move beau instead of garland. Beau kind of floats as where garland forechecks like crazy.
PaperMoonShine
Dhaliwal is the engine that churns this media market. Surprised he wasn’t credited for this headline.
~~”sounds like”~~ “Per Dhaliwal”
Less-Spot-1422
This feels like “sounds like” is doing a lot of work here.
GoldenChest2000
Garland’s a good piece to move up if/when injuries hit, I think he and Miller had some chemistry earlier on
bitter-pickles
I’ve pitched the idea elsewhere to reasonable reviews but Beauvillier retained to 2.75 for Peeke with whatever very minor filler on either end makes sense to me
SociopathicAutobot
“Now”
As if that wasn’t a preferred option from day one. If you weren’t getting bites on Garland, you sure as shit ain’t gonna get nibbles on Beauvillier.
Edit – everyone responding to me about how his contract has one year left or if the canucks eat half he’d be good.
This is a guy who cannot play on our fourth line and you think another contending team is going to get to the deadline and say “yes, this is the one!” Any deal.with Beauvillier will need a sweetener and the Canucks won’t do that.
Judge24601
This makes way more sense to me. I don’t dislike Beauvillier but it just makes way more sense if both require retention, it’s far more reasonable to retain for the one year.
pluralsight24
This makes more sense and doesn’t surprise me. Rutherford has a history of trading away players he’s recently acquired. See David Perron, Tanner Pearson, Erik Gudbranson in Pittsburgh. More recently, Lazar last year in Vancouver
SackofLlamas
Good luck moving either one of them. Market for middle six wingers isn’t exactly white hot.
Drab_Majesty
Beauvillier is a good insurance policy if one of our top 6 goes down. He has proven with top minutes to be more than serviceable. I don’t think anyone is going to offer anything of value that surpasses this.
Icy-Pomegranate-5644
Although I want an upgrade on D and rebalancing of the skillsets in our forwards, somehow I no longer want to lose these players haha. They’re all playing together and doing really well. It’s a luxury to have a possible-top-6 down on the bottom lines, though he doesn’t offer much in forechecking. I also feel PDG is due to regress before the season ends and we might be wanting on the wings again down the line.
metrichustle
But does Garland want to be here? Is he okay playing most minutes on the 3rd line with limited to no PP time? Last we want is another disgruntled employee.
ClosPins
Ha! This is becoming a pattern. We spend months trying to trade a guy – we can’t do it, because no one wants our trash unless we sweeten the pot tremendously – then it’s ‘fine, if you think you’re so good and that all these teams want you, go ahead and try to trade yourself Mr. Valuable Asset you!’ – then, once the player is unable to get even a nibble, the player is all ‘I love this city now!’ and the team is all ‘the coach loves this guy, we aren’t trading him, now we’re trading [insert new underperforming player with negative value here]!’
dangshnizzle
So. How much does it cost to move 1×4.15m?
Holyshitmuffin
Maybe we can trade him to Montreal and get xhekaj in return
dattroll123
Beauviller is easier to move due to being UFA at end of season while Garland has 3 more years left with a bigger cap hit. Let’s be real though, the team wants to move Garland because he doesn’t fit in the team anymore. He’s not getting top6 minutes and he doesn’t play on the pk. He also doesn’t score enough to justify giving him minutes as he hasn’t scored since hte opening game.
carry-on_replacement
Cap space wise. This is gonna be interesting. It’s like the OEL trade where we end up trading an expiring term for a potentially long term one. If we want to resign Petey and Hronek, we should ideally be keeping the Myers contract and Beauvillier contract
burdsandwich
Does anyone know how raty is doing?
21marvel1
Honestly, both moving is best but obvs Beau with one year left is going to be way easier to move
coltonjeffs
I have like Beaulivier’s effort actually. I notice him doing the right thing a lot.
PowerGloveOwner
Keep both right now since we’d probably have to throw in sweeteners just to move them. The silver lining with these two streaky scorers not scoring right now is that they’ll eventually go on a 10 goal hot streak sometime in the middle of the season which will help solidify our playoff chances and increase the odds of finding a deal at the deadline.
flamingdragonwizard
Wish we had him play a bit of top line time instead of PDG to boost his value. He’s worth next to nothing right now.
blumper2647
That penalty that Garland drew on Desharnais is exactly why I love the guy. His smaller size and quick turns make players lose control of their stick, leading to tripping/hooking calls. Garland is the equivalent of the Greek God of Walks from Moneyball.
DiamondDash2k
Beauvillier was great last year but this year not so much. An expensive player 4th liner right now who might not make the lineup tomorrow. Better to move but maybe harder to move since the value is low. Teams might expect a sweetener to take him on
International_Pen478
Good. I’m not the biggest garland fan but I like how he doesn’t give up on plays even when the offense isn’t going for him yet. He and Hoglander are good at getting the opposing D riled up for whatever reason. Maybe because they are small players that can be hard to play against
Beauvillier doesn’t do much but skate fast
Postisto
This is the way
Blueliner95
This makes all kinds of sense. AB does give you great speed, and a slightly larger body than Garland. But Garland is kind of a unique weapon, being a one-man cycle who can hold possession in the offensive end by himself which the other attackers get set up. He adds something I’ve never seen in the Canucks before. It scares me how he seems to skate under the armpit of defenders and someday he is going to be creamed. But I do like his play, and how he can drive a line.
ToyStrecher
Would be crazy if our team chemistry goes to shit the minute one of them gets traded. Like imagine if we really need every one of these guys this year
giannigabagool
1st, lek and beau for andersson make it happen
Leroy99
Yes. I never understood the shit Garly got on this sub. I’ve been impressed with his skillful and dogged forecheck technique since day one. Little guy has huge balls. Golden puck retriever.
grooverocker
Garland has been a buzz saw this season. Guy brings high energy and effort to every game. Great for the team but also great for his value.
Beauvillier is the worst forward on the team. The play constantly dies on his stick. His bad play comes with a $4,150,000 cap hit. It’s hard to believe he’d have any trade value whatsoever.
_BIG_FAT_REDDIT_MOD_
Am I crazy for thinking they should try to move both of them?
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That makes more sense.
That’s fine, but isn’t it Garland that wanted to be moved? Maybe the winning is changing things – it usually does.
This is what I’ve been saying all season, gotta move beau instead of garland. Beau kind of floats as where garland forechecks like crazy.
Dhaliwal is the engine that churns this media market. Surprised he wasn’t credited for this headline.
~~”sounds like”~~ “Per Dhaliwal”
This feels like “sounds like” is doing a lot of work here.
Garland’s a good piece to move up if/when injuries hit, I think he and Miller had some chemistry earlier on
I’ve pitched the idea elsewhere to reasonable reviews but Beauvillier retained to 2.75 for Peeke with whatever very minor filler on either end makes sense to me
“Now”
As if that wasn’t a preferred option from day one. If you weren’t getting bites on Garland, you sure as shit ain’t gonna get nibbles on Beauvillier.
Edit – everyone responding to me about how his contract has one year left or if the canucks eat half he’d be good.
This is a guy who cannot play on our fourth line and you think another contending team is going to get to the deadline and say “yes, this is the one!” Any deal.with Beauvillier will need a sweetener and the Canucks won’t do that.
This makes way more sense to me. I don’t dislike Beauvillier but it just makes way more sense if both require retention, it’s far more reasonable to retain for the one year.
This makes more sense and doesn’t surprise me. Rutherford has a history of trading away players he’s recently acquired. See David Perron, Tanner Pearson, Erik Gudbranson in Pittsburgh. More recently, Lazar last year in Vancouver
Good luck moving either one of them. Market for middle six wingers isn’t exactly white hot.
Beauvillier is a good insurance policy if one of our top 6 goes down. He has proven with top minutes to be more than serviceable. I don’t think anyone is going to offer anything of value that surpasses this.
Although I want an upgrade on D and rebalancing of the skillsets in our forwards, somehow I no longer want to lose these players haha. They’re all playing together and doing really well. It’s a luxury to have a possible-top-6 down on the bottom lines, though he doesn’t offer much in forechecking. I also feel PDG is due to regress before the season ends and we might be wanting on the wings again down the line.
But does Garland want to be here? Is he okay playing most minutes on the 3rd line with limited to no PP time? Last we want is another disgruntled employee.
Ha! This is becoming a pattern. We spend months trying to trade a guy – we can’t do it, because no one wants our trash unless we sweeten the pot tremendously – then it’s ‘fine, if you think you’re so good and that all these teams want you, go ahead and try to trade yourself Mr. Valuable Asset you!’ – then, once the player is unable to get even a nibble, the player is all ‘I love this city now!’ and the team is all ‘the coach loves this guy, we aren’t trading him, now we’re trading [insert new underperforming player with negative value here]!’
So. How much does it cost to move 1×4.15m?
Maybe we can trade him to Montreal and get xhekaj in return
Beauviller is easier to move due to being UFA at end of season while Garland has 3 more years left with a bigger cap hit.
Let’s be real though, the team wants to move Garland because he doesn’t fit in the team anymore. He’s not getting top6 minutes and he doesn’t play on the pk. He also doesn’t score enough to justify giving him minutes as he hasn’t scored since hte opening game.
Cap space wise. This is gonna be interesting. It’s like the OEL trade where we end up trading an expiring term for a potentially long term one. If we want to resign Petey and Hronek, we should ideally be keeping the Myers contract and Beauvillier contract
Does anyone know how raty is doing?
Honestly, both moving is best but obvs Beau with one year left is going to be way easier to move
I have like Beaulivier’s effort actually. I notice him doing the right thing a lot.
Keep both right now since we’d probably have to throw in sweeteners just to move them. The silver lining with these two streaky scorers not scoring right now is that they’ll eventually go on a 10 goal hot streak sometime in the middle of the season which will help solidify our playoff chances and increase the odds of finding a deal at the deadline.
Wish we had him play a bit of top line time instead of PDG to boost his value. He’s worth next to nothing right now.
That penalty that Garland drew on Desharnais is exactly why I love the guy. His smaller size and quick turns make players lose control of their stick, leading to tripping/hooking calls. Garland is the equivalent of the Greek God of Walks from Moneyball.
Beauvillier was great last year but this year not so much. An expensive player 4th liner right now who might not make the lineup tomorrow. Better to move but maybe harder to move since the value is low. Teams might expect a sweetener to take him on
Good. I’m not the biggest garland fan but I like how he doesn’t give up on plays even when the offense isn’t going for him yet. He and Hoglander are good at getting the opposing D riled up for whatever reason. Maybe because they are small players that can be hard to play against
Beauvillier doesn’t do much but skate fast
This is the way
This makes all kinds of sense. AB does give you great speed, and a slightly larger body than Garland. But Garland is kind of a unique weapon, being a one-man cycle who can hold possession in the offensive end by himself which the other attackers get set up. He adds something I’ve never seen in the Canucks before. It scares me how he seems to skate under the armpit of defenders and someday he is going to be creamed. But I do like his play, and how he can drive a line.
Would be crazy if our team chemistry goes to shit the minute one of them gets traded. Like imagine if we really need every one of these guys this year
1st, lek and beau for andersson make it happen
Yes. I never understood the shit Garly got on this sub. I’ve been impressed with his skillful and dogged forecheck technique since day one. Little guy has huge balls. Golden puck retriever.
Garland has been a buzz saw this season. Guy brings high energy and effort to every game. Great for the team but also great for his value.
Beauvillier is the worst forward on the team. The play constantly dies on his stick. His bad play comes with a $4,150,000 cap hit. It’s hard to believe he’d have any trade value whatsoever.
Am I crazy for thinking they should try to move both of them?