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To prove how bad th eforward group are the guys we called up from Laval did better than al the other forwards and that was Pinard a +7 and Belzile a long time steady AHL'r who managed an EVEN still much better than all the regulars who were minuses.You don't win Stanley cups being minus players unless you have a record setting powerplay like off the charts numbers so unless the coach figures this out and we actually strive for better forward talent we are going nowhere than maybe a playoff push at some point but no cups.