It is pretty much a question of is 3 really good seasons and 2 god awful seasons from Skinner worth the contract? Therefore, I’d have to say Carolina won
neverleavehouse
Carolina by a mile
crowned_one_
Wow I read receivers and was like when did that become a position in the NHL.
garytabasco
Buffalo easy
nicksj2023
Canes
Careless-Scallion147
Who cares
OilersPhanatic77
Carolina makes the playoffs every year and Buffalo doesn’t.
Toiletboy4
Skinner win, skinners contract, loss
TiredReader87
Obviously Carolina
Muffdvr_76
Jeff ‘ FOUR ‘ Skinner ✌🏻.
BronzeBackWanderer
We did. Kochetkov is going to be a star. I can feel it.
theLinNHL
Boom is going to be top 4 D man
reginaldturtle1111
Carolina by far. Skinner is super average
Skudzonen
To me it’s Carolina per 2023. And not just because they got rid of a contract that wasn’t working for them. Kochetkov might very well be the future goalie of the franchise for many years and Nikishin took a big step forward this past season to hint at a possible future impact in the club.
With that said it also seems Buffalo is on to something very interesting in the coming season and Skinner could be a very important piece to that puzzle. In that case both teams are certainly winners per 2024.
Snowy_River_99
To early to tell
sic_transit_gloria
In 2023, I’ll take the guy that put up 35 goals and 47 assists last year over a goalie that may or may not pan out and 3 guys I’ve never heard of, thank you very much.
NuMotiv
Carolina. Though it’s less ugly now than a few years back….
dr_van_nostren
Canes cuz they didn’t have to pay Skinner. They’re no worse for wear and don’t have that contract on the books.
balla4sho1447
Guy stitches letters on jerseys in Carolina definitely lost
Zarg0n7
Everyone commenting against Skinner clearly doesn’t know what’s been happening with him in Buffalo. His contract actually kept us over the league minimum for awhile there and he’s one of the most loveable guys on the team and in the community. He also just had a personal best season in points and is a top line winger with over a decade of experience on a very young team that needs someone like him. We love Jeff Skinner.
Slapshot683
Did someone have a stroke when they typed those draft picks?
Satans_Dookie
No one. No one won this trade.
TwoForHawat
There was no winner or loser. Both teams got what they wanted out of this trade.
Skinner didn’t dramatically overperform or underperform expectations on the whole. Carolina doesn’t really miss him, Buffalo isn’t remotely upset to have him. That’s a wash.
The return for Carolina was a player with low expectations and three future mid to late round draft picks. Carolina used those picks, and seems like they used them pretty damn effectively, but that doesn’t really swing the trade in their favor. Buffalo doesn’t suddenly lose a trade just because the player that got drafted 84th overall two full years after the trade happened turned out to be a pretty decent prospect.
Both teams got a fair return. Carolina managed to not waste their picks. Good deal for both sides.
cakeschmammert
Both teams
DWDM25
Carolina, cliff pu is an oshawa generals legend
# gensnation!
Cozscav
Sabres fans including those on the r/Sabres would have you believe it is a landslide win for the Sabres.
Anyone who has ever had a rational thought would know that skinner fleeced us 100 percent.
The contract and the player will not be a favorable one in coming years because we have to sign players like Dahlin, Power, Levi, and Quinn (to name a few)
Kushykush_
Hope skinner does well I liked watching him in the ohl
OutlawCountryFan
What happened to Cliff Pu? Did he end up getting a job in a wastewater treatment plant?
ImDoingAllRight
Skinner?! I hardly know her!
Jagr6810
What happened to cliff Pu
Wide_right_
what people are forgetting is not that Jeff Skinner was the victim of notorious hockey terrorist Ralph Krueger, but that he is an absolute vibes king now that the locker room seems healthy and he clearly enjoys being here now. for this organization, that means a lot and goes a long way. but Kochetkov really might pan out for Carolina and I can let them enjoy that
Sea-Establishment-10
TBD
Strypes4686
Buffalo. Skinner has put up 30+ the past two seasons. Pu and Nikishin are depth players in the KHL and have never seen NHL play. Aksiantsiuk is in the Stars system and was never actually Carolina’s because the pick was sent to Florida for Reimer and Kochetkov HAS donned the Canes sweater. He’s a goalie and a third stringer at the moment.
Swingersorbust
Carolina. Strong team made it to the conference finals and didn’t have to pay Skinner $9 million to miss the playoffs again.
FBR_MC
Right now, Buffalo, but in 3 years, it’ll probably be Carolina
994kk1
Carolina sure won the scrabble battle.
smile_and_wav3
Skinner certainly did not win this trade lol. I mean… the guy has to live in Buffalo for goodness sake
Pythnator
Jeff Skinner having the best goal songs overrides anything.
Chemical-Ad-1274
Sabres easily won this trade
LukeyMagukey
Honestly.. buffalo
El_Kabongg
It’s skinner but it’d be even more so skinned had he not gotten inexplicably benched for 2 years because of an idiot coach.
RobbyMac21
The Canes, strictly because Cliff Pu had among the most legendary goal cellys of all time.
Burnt2Smithereens
Skinner had a very good year last year but for the first 3 years of that contract he was absolutely not worth 9mil. Buffalo has him for another 4 seasons. Can he score 35 goals consistently? He’s lucky to have Thompson on his line.
Kochetkov will likely take over for Andersen very soon and could be the future goalie for them.
itisntreallythateasy
While you can’t really say they won the trade because of picks (it’s on the team to make the picks count), I’m surprised no one’s talking about Nikishin for Carolina. He’s huge and put up 55 points in 65 games as a 20 year old defender. Nothing to shrug at in Canadian leagues, but that’s a huge surprise in the KHL since they don’t typically give big minutes to young players. Seems like the real deal
TwoWay_Hockey4979
Apparently Russia did, holy Jesus.
hockeynoticehockey
The lady who sews the letters on Carolina’s sweater. Must have taken weeks to finish.
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It is pretty much a question of is 3 really good seasons and 2 god awful seasons from Skinner worth the contract? Therefore, I’d have to say Carolina won
Carolina by a mile
Wow I read receivers and was like when did that become a position in the NHL.
Buffalo easy
Canes
Who cares
Carolina makes the playoffs every year and Buffalo doesn’t.
Skinner win, skinners contract, loss
Obviously Carolina
Jeff ‘ FOUR ‘ Skinner ✌🏻.
We did. Kochetkov is going to be a star. I can feel it.
Boom is going to be top 4 D man
Carolina by far. Skinner is super average
To me it’s Carolina per 2023. And not just because they got rid of a contract that wasn’t working for them. Kochetkov might very well be the future goalie of the franchise for many years and Nikishin took a big step forward this past season to hint at a possible future impact in the club.
With that said it also seems Buffalo is on to something very interesting in the coming season and Skinner could be a very important piece to that puzzle. In that case both teams are certainly winners per 2024.
To early to tell
In 2023, I’ll take the guy that put up 35 goals and 47 assists last year over a goalie that may or may not pan out and 3 guys I’ve never heard of, thank you very much.
Carolina. Though it’s less ugly now than a few years back….
Canes cuz they didn’t have to pay Skinner. They’re no worse for wear and don’t have that contract on the books.
Guy stitches letters on jerseys in Carolina definitely lost
Everyone commenting against Skinner clearly doesn’t know what’s been happening with him in Buffalo. His contract actually kept us over the league minimum for awhile there and he’s one of the most loveable guys on the team and in the community. He also just had a personal best season in points and is a top line winger with over a decade of experience on a very young team that needs someone like him. We love Jeff Skinner.
Did someone have a stroke when they typed those draft picks?
No one. No one won this trade.
There was no winner or loser. Both teams got what they wanted out of this trade.
Skinner didn’t dramatically overperform or underperform expectations on the whole. Carolina doesn’t really miss him, Buffalo isn’t remotely upset to have him. That’s a wash.
The return for Carolina was a player with low expectations and three future mid to late round draft picks. Carolina used those picks, and seems like they used them pretty damn effectively, but that doesn’t really swing the trade in their favor. Buffalo doesn’t suddenly lose a trade just because the player that got drafted 84th overall two full years after the trade happened turned out to be a pretty decent prospect.
Both teams got a fair return. Carolina managed to not waste their picks. Good deal for both sides.
Both teams
Carolina, cliff pu is an oshawa generals legend
# gensnation!
Sabres fans including those on the r/Sabres would have you believe it is a landslide win for the Sabres.
Anyone who has ever had a rational thought would know that skinner fleeced us 100 percent.
The contract and the player will not be a favorable one in coming years because we have to sign players like Dahlin, Power, Levi, and Quinn (to name a few)
Hope skinner does well I liked watching him in the ohl
What happened to Cliff Pu? Did he end up getting a job in a wastewater treatment plant?
Skinner?! I hardly know her!
What happened to cliff Pu
what people are forgetting is not that Jeff Skinner was the victim of notorious hockey terrorist Ralph Krueger, but that he is an absolute vibes king now that the locker room seems healthy and he clearly enjoys being here now. for this organization, that means a lot and goes a long way. but Kochetkov really might pan out for Carolina and I can let them enjoy that
TBD
Buffalo. Skinner has put up 30+ the past two seasons. Pu and Nikishin are depth players in the KHL and have never seen NHL play. Aksiantsiuk is in the Stars system and was never actually Carolina’s because the pick was sent to Florida for Reimer and Kochetkov HAS donned the Canes sweater. He’s a goalie and a third stringer at the moment.
Carolina. Strong team made it to the conference finals and didn’t have to pay Skinner $9 million to miss the playoffs again.
Right now, Buffalo, but in 3 years, it’ll probably be Carolina
Carolina sure won the scrabble battle.
Skinner certainly did not win this trade lol. I mean… the guy has to live in Buffalo for goodness sake
Jeff Skinner having the best goal songs overrides anything.
Sabres easily won this trade
Honestly.. buffalo
It’s skinner but it’d be even more so skinned had he not gotten inexplicably benched for 2 years because of an idiot coach.
The Canes, strictly because Cliff Pu had among the most legendary goal cellys of all time.
Skinner had a very good year last year but for the first 3 years of that contract he was absolutely not worth 9mil. Buffalo has him for another 4 seasons. Can he score 35 goals consistently? He’s lucky to have Thompson on his line.
Kochetkov will likely take over for Andersen very soon and could be the future goalie for them.
While you can’t really say they won the trade because of picks (it’s on the team to make the picks count), I’m surprised no one’s talking about Nikishin for Carolina. He’s huge and put up 55 points in 65 games as a 20 year old defender. Nothing to shrug at in Canadian leagues, but that’s a huge surprise in the KHL since they don’t typically give big minutes to young players. Seems like the real deal
Apparently Russia did, holy Jesus.
The lady who sews the letters on Carolina’s sweater. Must have taken weeks to finish.