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[Pat Caputo] Departed skaters Bertuzzi, Hronek, Vrana, Erne, Suter, Oesterle, Hagg, Zadina & Sundqvist combined for 50 goals and -40 for Red Wings last season. Skaters acquired Compher, Sprong, Gostibehere, Holl & Kostin combined for 63 goals and +43 in ‘22-23.



[Pat Caputo] Departed skaters Bertuzzi, Hronek, Vrana, Erne, Suter, Oesterle, Hagg, Zadina & Sundqvist combined for 50 goals and -40 for Red Wings last season. Skaters acquired Compher, Sprong, Gostibehere, Holl & Kostin combined for 63 goals and +43 in ‘22-23.

by dilypucks

28 Comments

  2. theuserestuser

    WhAt iS YzERmaN dOIng!?
    -social media “fans”

  3. atheistinabiblebelt

    That is a massive difference. Now after this season we need a total combined goals and +/- for all the previous wings for a somewhat more realistic comparison…. ^but ^not ^all ^of ^the ^former ^wings ^will ^even ^be ^in ^the ^nhl

  4. ConfrontThePast

    I mean. Caputo is a dope and is citing +/- like that even matters at all. Of course players who were not on Detroit last year had a good plus minus, they weren’t on Detroit.

  5. jimac20

    Bertuzzi and Vrana did not play full seasons. This is not the best argument to make. Vrana and Bertuzzi both have a chance to score 30 this year. I do like the moves so far this off-season. I agree we will have a better defensive team.

  6. redbreast_jv

    I don’t hate our signings except for Reimer, but this is misleading at best. Bert was injured half of the season and Vrana barely touched the ice for us.

    If those two played full seasons, that goal differential probably wouldn’t be positive.

    None the less, both trades were for the best.

  7. Danengel32

    This also doesn’t take into account that Joe Veleno is a shoe-in to score 50 goals this season

  8. epheisey

    Pat Caputo doesn’t deserve to have his tweets posted here as content lol

  9. cutyourhair

    All time: pick your stats to prove a point you’re trying to make post.

    The only two goalscorers on the departed list missed almost the whole season and immediately got hot once they were off the Wings’ team. And almost all those guys who came in come from high ranking playoff teams, so of course their +/- is gonna be good.

    Don’t think anyone is disputing that we got better defensively. By how much and was it worth the cost? We’re going to find out.

  12. wsx13

    I think this is a good black and white picture; this is the production leaving (even if injured) and this is the production coming in.

    Plus minus is antiquated with all the fancy new metrics, but it’s still a valuable baseline stat. This picture says, the Wings *should* be improved next season

  13. Taco_Truck_52

    Zadina has not departed, correct? Cleared waivers, stays with team.

  14. borpo

    So few of the first list even played a full season, and the guys on the second list played for Colorado, Seattle, Carolina, Toronto, and Edmonton. Of course they had better +/-, those were all playoff teams. This is so bad lol

  15. zakksyuk

    Yea we actually have some depth down the middle now to. Not very flashy but effective (:

  17. BN_S

    Seems kind of like a skewed stat when those players were on the Wings vs playoff contending teams? But I guess the point stands a little bit

  18. naked_feet

    This seems like a pretty good improvement.

    People like to say that +/- is a bad stat, but I think it can illustrate things.

  19. jfstompers

    +43 because most of them played on good teams, plus 63 goals seems like a lot but Bert would have had half of that by himself if he was healthy

  20. HercHuntsdirty

    I can’t wait to see Kostin break out. I can feel it coming. Watch him turn into Tom Wilson.

  21. Basic_Ask1885

    This is how I’d imagine Pat Caputo using stats

  23. Kitchen_Yak_676

    They are absolutely better in addition by substraction with Vrana and Zadina gone. Bert was injured most of the year and I don’t think his production in Detroit would ever go back to what it was here, maybe the Leafs have better luck with him. Erne, oersterke and Hagg have limited skill set. Suter is a good player, will someone like Veleno fill that role? With Sonny the question will be, did we improve with Klim?

  24. msto3

    Any Yzerplan doubters want to speak up? No?

    Trust him lmao

  25. MIGsalund

    I’m just hoping Gostisbehere can play well enough to net us a 1st at the deadline. Doubt Perron gets us that, but if he can too I would be very stoked to stack up those first round picks. Can never have too many.

  27. TheEnglishNerd

    bUt YzErMaN dOeSn’T kNoW wHaT hE’s DoInG

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