[@charlieo_conn] “Do I like today’s trade for the Flyers? I don’t know how anyone could like when you give up a useful player, retain 50% salary for 3 years, and get only a 6th rounder in return. That said, they pretty much had to move on from him. It wasn’t gonna work between he & Torts. Period.”
Do I like today's trade for the Flyers? I don't know how anyone could like when you give up a useful player, retain 50% salary for 3 years, and get only a 6th rounder in return.
That said, they pretty much had to move on from him. It wasn't gonna work between he & Torts. Period.
— Charlie O'Connor (@charlieo_conn) June 27, 2023
by MrRegularSeason
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How the fuck do we only get a 6th rounder when we’re retaining half his fucking salary?
Why though? He signed the contract. He needs to just step up, If he doesn’t want to put in the effort, bury him in the minors. But trading away a 2nd line forward while burning a retention spot for 3 years in a league that hasn’t seen a solid salary cap increase in years Is pretty inexcusable. It feels like they made a desperation trade while not in desperation mode.
This is my last comment on it because I’ve said all I can in the other thread, but this is a real head scratcher for me. I literally think running out his contract was more valuable than this due to facilitating other trades.
I think it was a favor to Hayes sending him to a team that’s still in the mix. Probably could have squeezed a mid pick out of a shittier team looking for depth. In the end though shitty signings always lead to shitty trades. We just weren’t gonna get a first or second with the cap crunch rn. Is what it is. Fuck Fletcher as always. Trades a D- in my eyes though.
Thanks “Torts”. Everyone on the planet knows you hate him. Everyone knew we desperately wanted to dump him.
I remember arguing with someone on here that torts putting all this shit out in the media isn’t thinking big picture enough and would hurt the team in trade negotiations.
He should’ve been showcasing the players he didn’t like and keeping silent as it would make getting rid of them easier.
Not saying it’s the entire reason but it’s hard to not find a relationship
We definitely took a big L on the return.
I like Torts as a coach so I may be a bit biased but Kevin Hayes should shut up and do his fucking job. My general manager is pretty fricken terrible to work for too so he ain’t the only one.
The blues got extremely lucky the rest of the league didn’t know Hayes was available for 50% retained. I had a little hope with Briere and it’s all gone.
When Johansson, who’s basically Hayes++, got traded for literally nothing, Hayes value bottomed out. We’re honestly we got anything out of the cap dump.
It is what it is. Hopefully we can use that cap space to take on some bad contracts for more assets. 3.5 mil is not nothing
Maybe thank the coach for tanking any value Hayes had.
We got half of Hayes salary off the books and we didn’t have to pay to do it
The only reason why we would need 3.5 mil in the next three years is if we’re competing for a cup and salary cap strapped, which we would not be if we had Hayes and his 7 mil figure
I loved Hayes personality. We overpaid when we got him. This was always going to happen
This was not a good trade, if we eating 50% of his contract we should have forced him to stay to see if he could produce to get more in season.
Well we didn’t have to send picks away to dump some cap so it’s still better than what the last moron could accomplish
who cares.
Fair enough. But the Provorov return was way better than expected so it’s balanced out somewhat for me. Especially if he brings back another 1st in the Sanheim deal. Or brings in another bad contract for another high pick.
It’s hard to send a guy 50% retained who can still play and used to ref.
That’s a multi talent for a 6th
The fact that they “had” to move a player at a loss because of Torts is exactly why he should be fired.
Addition by subtraction is still addition.
He’s gonna love Chief…
Now that Fletch is gone, Torts has taken over as the biggest cancer in the franchise.
Fletcher was a complete tool, everyone except Comcast knew it and we’re going to be paying for it for a while.
This draft has been forecasted as a strong one for a while.
Should have been a fire sale a year ago, accumulating picks for this draft.
It’s pure dumbassery, but at this point we’re all just beating a dead horse. And this baby isn’t going to be running any races for a long while.
This isn’t a Danny L. You people are so confused.
Hayes isn’t good. He’s lazy. He’s overpaid. The coach didn’t like him. The org didn’t want him, and everyone else knew we didn’t want him. He’s 31 years old with 3 years left. He’s going to be a 3rd line center for any team that isn’t in disarray.
Getting only a 6th isn’t a Danny L. It’s our comeuppance for hiring a potato in a suit.
No one else wanted him, we freed up cap space, and we didn’t have to give up anything else in return for that 6th rounder. On top of that, it helps ensure we tank next year.
It’s a very modest W in the grand scheme of things.
I’d rather pay 3.5 for 3 during a rebuild than the buyout amount for 6.
Add in that we didn’t give up assets to do it and I call that a win
Definitely need to tell Torts (who sounds like he has aspirations in a front office position someday) that he can’t kill the value of players with his mouth as a coach.
I wish we kept Hayes and dumped Torts.
I’m gonna have the STL game circled on my calendar and I hope we prove how much of a bum he is that night