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Have We Seen The Last Of Hyman In Toronto?



Steve, Jesse and Adam discuss the very real possibility that we’ve seen the last of Zach Hyman on the Toronto Maple Leafs.

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45 Comments

  1. Will D

    I started really following the Leafs around the Horachek era. Shanahan I think said it best in the end of season interview – the Leafs earned the right to get our expectations up this season.

    My add is that we lost in OT in games 5 and 6 to a team that is now going toe to toe with VGKs and that's without JT.

  2. KONP

    Reilly has never won a playoff series, Tavares has never been a dynamic player in the league he's just benefited from being a beast in junior during a time when franchise players were coming around once or twice a draft. He's ridden that 1st ovr pick his whole career trade one or both of them and clear some cap space to restructure.

  3. Richard Narine

    Steve, I am pissed at them too and I think the Leafs need to win back a lot of fans!!!!!! We have to stop cutting the Leafs slack and making excuses for them.

  6. late

    5 million for Hyman, I'd rather sign Goodrow or Coleman for the max 4 million. The leafs can trade Reilly because they have Sandin to take his spot. Not saying he will put up the numbers that Reilly does, but he is going to be a real good player. So Reilly for a power forward, even if we take a loss we fill a huge hole

  7. breakaway2x

    I told you all. Signing JT at $11 mil first before Matthews and Marner was huge mistake. That drove the salaries up for Matthews and Marner and now we can't afford to keep our best depth forward in Hyman. The Leafs rebuild is stuck in the mud. We ain't going anywhere. Leafs are gonna have to rebuild like Buffalo.

  9. flyingja

    Why can't Hyman be part of the "Core 4"? Seriously. Two years in a row he's projected at 30 goal pace. He kills penalties. Digs out pucks. Bleeds blue. Etc. And he could be had for 5 (or 5.5). And either Willy or Marner could be traded. In which case: not only do we get to keep Hyman and earn extra cap room, but we also get the assets from the trade. Letting Hyman walk (while keeping intact a "core 4" that's proven time-and-again that they can't win) is simply inexcusable. For instance: trade Marner (and his 11 million) for Seth Jones. Extend Jones at 8.5 million. Keep Hyman with Matthews and find them a decent playmaking winger on the free agent market (with the money saved from Freddie's departure). The idea of a "core 4" is to have two pairs of forwards that can drive a line together. Hyman and Matthews vs Marner and Matthews should be the conversation here. In which case: the cap flexibility of the former GREATLY OUTWEIGHS the extra (regular season) points of the latter.

  10. Jerrythecoo

    He has to chase the best contract he can get!,….29,……….. knees are on borrowed time.
    All the best Zack!!!!!👀😎👍👋✌️🇨🇦🌟

  12. KONP

    Can we just take Hyman at what he is? He is a 3rd line player, a really really damn good 3rd line player.

    At 81.5 mill cap space that works out to just over 4 mill per player on average. Obviously your stars will get more and you will have to find some value contracts to make up the gap. But a top tier 3rd line role type player can't make more than 4-4.5 mill in this current cap era even if they deserve it.

  15. Yanic Robertson

    they need to trade 1 of 2 players marner or mathews too much money tied up into both players not saying the production isnt there just to much money that could be used else where idk maybe get a legitimate number 1 goalie or a solid 1B to follow up campbell

  17. Dylan Partridge

    If leads lose hyman I’ll freak! I’m already so done with this team but that’s been the most consistent player you’ve had in years. He’s the exact type of player you need. Injury risk or not, you take that risk. You take it because every line he played on because exponentially better with him on it to the point he was nicknamed Mr. Fix It! You risk it because that’s the guy who brings core morals to his game and that’s rare

  22. SKS_88

    This was a great video for two reasons:

    1) Zach Hyman is logically not going to be part of this team next year.

    2) I used to care about leafs news, even minor pieces like this, but like the rest of these 3 hosts, I just don't care anymore.

    Haven't left the first round in 17 years, we laugh at the Arizona Coyotes but we're equally as much of a joke. The fans have turned on this team, every Leafs fan I know agrees.

    Good luck leafs, but I lost hope and faith. All the best, I hope it works out for you, but I can't emotionally invest myself in such a tire fire expecting a good result. Prove it, then we'll talk.

    Adios from a diehard Leafs fan.

  23. SKS_88

    Do the core 4 have it?

    Let's look at the core 4, and examine it.

    Matthews
    Marner
    Nylander
    Tavares.

    I think one would be foolish if they realistically wanted to or think there would be any value received in a trade with either of Matthews, Nylander, or Tavares.

    Marner – lights it up in the regular season, very talented, but choke artist. $11M choke artists. How many decent players does $11M buy? 3-4, last time I counted.

    And he demanded to be paid before he accomplished anything. And our GM Dubas agreed to that. Dubas – you're in some hot water as well.

  24. Jay Floss

    The only way the Leafs are going to win back their fans, Steve, is if they beat the Bruins in round 1 then the Habs in round 2. With these bunch of marshmallows that don't hit and are scared of taking a hit, they can't even win one round. Even against inferior teams lol not holding my breath.

  26. Steve Wilson

    Leaf fans are leaf fans forever regardless of what they do on the ice. The season will start they will win 5 games and everyone who swore them off will be back.

  27. cutchopweld

    I think every team in the NHL would like a Hyman. He works his ass off, digs the corners and gives %100. If the top 4 worked as hard as him night after night Toronto would have 2 or 3 cups already!

  29. Kevin McLeod

    Hyman not a leaf ? This team will sucks more without him ! Trade 2 of the top 4 assholes who did nothing when it mattered most ! Do that and ill belive that you are at least trying to get better . Dang it who cares ya made the playoffs if you never show up in them . Always the same chokaholics! Work harder and quit making fing excuses . Old Harold Ballard 👻 laughing at them . Never and I mean NEVER will there ever be again a cup championship team called the maple leafs ! Call them the tronto maybes or toronto wish ! I guess I count myself lucky I did see them win two cups in the 60 s 🤣 . Expectations for this team was high as it should of been ! Dont blame it on injuries other teams have them too. Face it there just not that good ! Should of not paid out huge contracts to players who can't deliver . Now your in a mess . Next season ha they'll lose again and again and again it will be the out come for a long time yet . Do they deserve fans next year who's to say, ill show up in the playoffs if they make it that far then go golfing after 4 games like they do. Don't panic my opinion is just a opinion . I'm sure there are others who feel the same .

  30. Jonny Era

    Steve I love the attitude brother I agree we are loser and until they prove otherwise we will always be loser.

  31. Jonny Era

    I don’t think the leafs need to go out and make a big move that will not help, maybe from a marketing aspect sure but if they want people to believe we as fans need to see results and I’m not talking about regular season success. I’m taking playoff success, at this point it’s not about winning the cup it’s about winning ONE ROUND ! do that and then you will have my attention back.

  35. Veets

    Does it matter what they really do with the line up? I too am fed up…. If we could only kick back and watch casually…. It’s NOT in our blood to do so.

  37. Matthew Garey

    What about this? Matthews for Price straight up! It was and has been the difference for almost every winning team. You need a top top tier goalie to win! Tavares can play with Marner again and we start from the net out!!!

  41. Angelfire 451

    Steve.. You are so right the Leafs management f*cked up thanks to Dumbass
    Taveres was worth 9.5 for 7 years to come to Toronto
    Mathews was worth 10 for 5 no cup yet
    Marner was worth 8 million and 5 years.
    Nylander was 6.5 and 6 years
    That's 6 millon the Leafs are missing. Hyman could have thus been signed for 5.5

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