Steve, Jesse and Adam discuss the recent perfomance of Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman Justin Holl and debate whether or not he deserves to be in their lineup anymore
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21 Comments
Sometimes you have to keep a player that might not be as good so you can assure cost certainty.
Just put Benn in the lineup instead. There is your net front presence that can clear the crease for the goalies.
Thinking that there is a magical unicorn defenseman that can, clear the front of the net, move the puck up the ice effortlessly, that the Leafs can fit with their cap situation and can acquire with the assets they are willing to part with is almost as ludicrous as thinking the reffing is going to change
Holl can't cover or move guys in front of the net. You can be good at somethings (penalty kill, moving the puck) and be horrible at others (being physical and picking up the man in front of the net). That's who he is and what you get for $2M..
I was at this game…Holl drove me insane! I could pin 3 of those goals on Justin Hole…the Black Hole on D.
Holl''s mistakes at catastrophic. Almost always lead to goals.
Holl on the ice for 23 goals in the last 20 games, plus do we remember last year's playoffs….I agree with Dangle
Keep holl he’s a good team guy.. one guy isn’t going to make a big impact.. they thought kadri was the cause of there failure for not advancing to the next round. He was just one guy
For a team that wants to challenge for a Cup and are built up front to win now, all 6 D-men are pretty lacking in quality. Every other potential Cup contender has at least 1 if not 2 star D-men. Fox/Trouba, Hedman/Cernak, Carlo/McAvoy, Toews/Makar, Nurse/Barrie
I really like Justin Holl. Everyone makes mistakes but sometimes he has blinders on
Yes, remove the pylon. He sucks.
Holl is looking less like a great story of an AHLer who surprised everyone and more like an AHLer who was playing way over his head for one season? Half a season? He's awful.
But he's Marners BFF so he ain't going anywhere guys. Players run this team, that's the problem.
I Think He's Done Time For Him To Move On Somewhere Else Go Join Mcdermit In Vancouver GLG
they will always need a pylon …. or a sack of pucks.
Steve is so right it's crazy, stats only matter to a point, if you only make one mistake a game BUT it always leads to a goal, your not worth playing, honest to God Benn or mete or Timmins or even Holowell( might be spelling wrong) I would feel more comfortable with then Holl being out there especially in high pressure situations, I know it's cliche to say but it's true, holl is Jake Gardiner 2.0
Dubas put Holl and the team in this position,,,, Guhle, Schnieder, Bjornfot and Durzi would all have looked good on our d-core. Dubas has to go.
Dubas drafter Amirov, a lanky center from Russia over Schnieder a 6'2", 209lb RHD from Canada who is already a solid defender for the NYR.
Haven’t heard Steve swear like this in a long time!
Holl is a fine player. But a cup team needs more than a fine player. Holl has a place in this league on a myriad of other teams. But the leafs need something new
"Big for nothing" is an excellent way to describe most of the Leafs D core
Yes, dear gawd yes. For the last 2.5 seasons I've been saying trade Kerfot, Engvall and Holl 🤭. They aren't bad players, they just don't fit or move the needle for the Leafs. That's 8mil, I'd prefer a 6 mil player and 2 rookie contracts
Yes.
Hey Steve. Trade Holl. Truth and reality is Holl isn’t even a caliber NHL Dman. Fire Dubas and Keefe for he keeps playing this guy who makes same mistakes to lose games and then win the Cup