NHL gave Ottawa the chance to forfeit their 1st in either 2024, 2025, or 2026. I am a die-hard Sens Sicko and I thought that was as much fairness as Ottawa would get in this scenario. I'll take Pick 32 happily. However, Sens can't trade up, and they are ineligible for the Draft Lottery. They pick 32 and no sooner. Also, they got fined $1 million.
Drafting 32nd is fair but that should’ve been the initial punishment. But now that leaves the impression that they won’t follow through future punishments
This is bull shit just like it was when they did this to NJ if you say you are going to do it then do it instantly if you don’t have a first this year I take next years pick if you don’t have next year I take year after that and fire the scouts cause they will not be needed for some time😂
I think it's fair only because Dadanov was eventually traded that offseason. This actually has precedent btw. When the Devils tried signing Kovalchuk to that insane 17 year deal in 2010, they were supposed to forfeit their First in any of the next 4 drafts (2011-2014). Lou Lamoriello went with 2015. Eventually they also picked last in that first round, drafting John Quenneville 30th. He played 42 games over 4 seasons. Chosen in the second round were: Brendan Lemieux (LA, 31st) Ivan Barbashev (St. Louis, 33rd) Thatcher Demko (Vancouver 36th) Alex Nedeljkovic(Carolina, 37th) Marcus Pettersson(Anaheim, 38th) Vitek Vanacek (Washington,39th) Ottawa would be going from a better than 60% chance of their pick having a long career to a more than 60% chance their pick never makes it to 100 career games.
Well there offense also happened under a previous owner and previous GM so there's a question of who are you punishing? The current owner that hadn't even purchased the team yet? And to whom the pending punishment wasn't disclosed to when that purchased the team (the irony of which is not lost on me)?
Ottawa never should have been penalized their first to begin with. Las Vegas is also at fault in my opinion. Don't take on a contract without reading the contract.
Can't say that we're surprised that Gary and the League buckled to an owner again. Didn't something similar happen to the devil's when they signed Kovolchuck? They only ended up losing a 3rd round pick and got to keep the 1st.
They back tracked because Vegas had a copy of the contract and the no trade list would be part of it. Vegas tried to scapegoat Ottawa but the league realized that punishing a team for another teams due diligence failure isn't right.
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It was done under the old ownership so they shifted gears for the new owner cause this was being investigated during the transaction of ownership
Sens rule
NHL gave Ottawa the chance to forfeit their 1st in either 2024, 2025, or 2026. I am a die-hard Sens Sicko and I thought that was as much fairness as Ottawa would get in this scenario. I'll take Pick 32 happily. However, Sens can't trade up, and they are ineligible for the Draft Lottery. They pick 32 and no sooner. Also, they got fined $1 million.
Absolutely not.
Do there second third etc also get penalized
Dadonooooov….DADONOOOOOV!
Drafting 32nd is fair but that should’ve been the initial punishment. But now that leaves the impression that they won’t follow through future punishments
Take the NHL rules seriously? Have you seen the nonsense that comes out of the Players Satefy Office?
This is bull shit just like it was when they did this to NJ if you say you are going to do it then do it instantly if you don’t have a first this year I take next years pick if you don’t have next year I take year after that and fire the scouts cause they will not be needed for some time😂
it's fair enough 32 is fair
Oh come on so if the Rangers win the lottery my Flames won’t be getting another first round pick?
I think it's fair only because Dadanov was eventually traded that offseason. This actually has precedent btw. When the Devils tried signing Kovalchuk to that insane 17 year deal in 2010, they were supposed to forfeit their First in any of the next 4 drafts (2011-2014). Lou Lamoriello went with 2015. Eventually they also picked last in that first round, drafting John Quenneville 30th. He played 42 games over 4 seasons.
Chosen in the second round were:
Brendan Lemieux (LA, 31st)
Ivan Barbashev (St. Louis, 33rd)
Thatcher Demko (Vancouver 36th)
Alex Nedeljkovic(Carolina, 37th)
Marcus Pettersson(Anaheim, 38th)
Vitek Vanacek (Washington,39th)
Ottawa would be going from a better than 60% chance of their pick having a long career to a more than 60% chance their pick never makes it to 100 career games.
Well there offense also happened under a previous owner and previous GM so there's a question of who are you punishing? The current owner that hadn't even purchased the team yet? And to whom the pending punishment wasn't disclosed to when that purchased the team (the irony of which is not lost on me)?
They also rescinded the two suspensions Kadri got when playing against the Bruins.
The punishment should've stayed the same.
Ottawa never should have been penalized their first to begin with. Las Vegas is also at fault in my opinion. Don't take on a contract without reading the contract.
Can't say that we're surprised that Gary and the League buckled to an owner again. Didn't something similar happen to the devil's when they signed Kovolchuck? They only ended up losing a 3rd round pick and got to keep the 1st.
Easy they’ll just never do it again after this
Ya well Im happy cause im a sens fan
I think that’s on Vegas to do their homework. Unless Ottawa deliberately hid the no trade agreement.
They back tracked because Vegas had a copy of the contract and the no trade list would be part of it. Vegas tried to scapegoat Ottawa but the league realized that punishing a team for another teams due diligence failure isn't right.
So Vegas traded for a guy without reading his contract at all?
As a Canucks fan I’m upset that our 2nd round pick won’t be 32nd overall