Nick Kypreos, Justin Bourne, and Sam McKee look back to the Toronto Maple Leafs’ loss to the Seattle Kraken. Later, former NHL president, general manager, and head coach Doug MacLean returns to share his thoughts on if it is possible to retool this Maple Leafs roster.
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0:00 – Stream Start
9:24 – Start of Show
48:38 – Second Segment
1:09:29 – Third Segment w/ Doug MacLean
1:48:45 – Final Segment
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Toronto’s Road To The Bottom Five | Real Kyper & Bourne | January 30, 2026
#NHL #TorontoMapleLeafs #Hockey #KyperAndBourne
46 Comments
"Drinking ur Orange Juice" kyper says bahahhahaha yea cause Kyper prob knows that OJ has a lil Russias fav drink in it xD
Im not saying its right move but people are discussing Winnipeg trading the 1st round pick for a package that helps next 3-4seasons. Giving Scheifele,Lowry,Connor,Jmo,Hellebuyck best chance to win a cup.
The ideas could you trade it for a top6 fwd+dman+maybe 3rd liner.
Examples it would be 1 of Mckenna/Stenberg/Verhoeff for
1. StLouis already has a low pick getting 2 in top 5 could help process.
Kyrou+Parayko
2. Flames same situation as Blues
Weegar+Zary+
3. Canucks same thing all lottery teams
Hronek+Garland+something else
4. Lafreneire+Schneider+Something else
5.. Sure potential could be really high for a Mckenna whoever but if you can get a Robertson,Nylander/Knies whoever i can see both points.
Trade Rielly, Trade Stolars, Trade Mcmann, fire Treeliving, Fire Berube. Start Hildeby every game.
Kipper is always too opinioed… JB should host this show…
Can I just say – after that rant I have a new found appreciation for Sammy. Team Sammy 😎
The opening conversation was hilarious. Basically Kyper, Bourne and Sammy are saying it is hard to win it all, and it is hard to be the worst team in the league. I guess being a middle of the pack, mediocre team is the new measure of really sucking in the NHL. How pathetic!! 😂😂
non stop talk about how bad the leafs are gets really old after 10 minutes let alone for 2 hours, don't you think? I clicked off after 5 minutes.
Great show guys! Tell Sammy I'm ordering sashimi tonight!
LEAFS NEED MAJOR CHANGEZ
Idk why they won’t move Matthews and Nylander they are proven losers we traded our best player for Nic Roy
ON ROBIDASSS ISLEEE
It’s still dubas fault for being blinded by the core 4. Toronto never believed in or let their prospects develop from within like a real cup team. Always looking for a headline free agent shortcut when they should have let nylander walk in his first standoff with Toronto, and then they would have gotten Mitch and Matthew’s for 2 million cheaper each I bet.
I rest my case
God I love bi-polar delusional Leafs fans who (many) said just weeks ago they’re making the playoffs😅
Mcdavid is up at around the same time as Crosby is out. Just saying mcdavid can be the next penguin
Move nylander. He's to much drama. He doesn't want to be in Toronto anymore. Make a block buster
The only leaf players worth keeping are Mathews and cowen. Build around those two
Stop looking for super Stars. Make one
Crosby gets another gold and another cup. He has to put his face in that empty picture frame
Dont have to shut anybody down, just keep playing the way you’re playing, should be fine 😊
The problem with all this is that everyone is thinking about performance. But you get performance through systems and mindset. These kids playing for the leaf's just don't have the mindset to win and they don't have the systems to make their skills elite. To me that's a management problem. Berube is literally satisfied with the leaf's loss. He doesn't believe they can be elite. and he's not pushing for anything extraordinary. this team has no spine unfortunately. not one strong enough to win a cup at least.
Sully is not one of the best. He lucked out with a Crosby
You cannot trust Brad Treliving with this team anymore. He needs to be fired. His trade history is absolutely unacceptable, the damage is done and it’s BAD. Take the keys from him.
i've seen canada win 3 olympic gold. i'll be cold in the ground before the leafs ever do anything. i've been watching 33 years and they've never so much as been to a final.
5/7 🇨🇦 teams are awful.
Pasta didn't miss a game last year. Kipper has a point – you can't purposely put a bad product on the ice when STH paid well in advance for very expensive seats. NHL is a business and that would be bad business.
Man you two totally flipped in a day. Wow. And Berube saying they need to play to win each game is exactly what a coach should say. Kipper again, the only rational person on the panel.
Mega thin incoming.
Great show loved the Habs talk always love to hear from Doug McLean. He is a beauty as Grapes would say……
What happened to your editor? I mean i love your show, but why do i all of a sudden need to listen to this banger rock thing for 10 minutes at a time?
What game is Chief watching?
Stanley Cup far more desirable than an Olympic Gold. Not even close.
The Leafs would need new management immediately if anyone there tries to acquire Robert Thomas from the Blues with the little bit of assets they have left, While still needing an entire D core for the last decade.
It blows my mind more fans haven't stopped spending money on this joke of a team. How about if you can't trade Morgan Reilly by the end of this summer, they have to buy him out to get him off this roster. A 2nd pair D in his prime playing 1st pair minutes, now at best a 3rd pair D in his current form still playing 1st pair minutes, What a travesty of roster management for the last decade.
Doug MacLean only one who has any common sense when talking about the Leafs.
As a Bruins fan I am praying the Leafs finish with the 6th worst record.
Doug is the man. Can we get him on the show more often.
To me Matthews has never fulfilled his contract, he has never shown he's worthy of the C, tbh not everyone who's worn it has, and he has China doll syndrome and has become what was once called injury prone. No matter the lip service every year he's been here he's first out the door, on the plane and gone. Not sure how that's worthy of the claim I love Toronto. Luke Fox wrote an article today about how the Leafs have to show Matthews the Leafs are worthy of him, what! They've given him everything he has asked, and IMO he has never given enough back. He wants to be first our the door, I say make his dream come true!
why would those other teams like WInnipeg care if the Leafs move into their lottery spot .Theres a big difference between those other teams and the LEafs .Those other teams still own their 1st round pick – the LEafs do not ( unless they end in the bottom 5) If you are WInnnipeg ,do you really care if the have the 3rd overall or the 7th? Leafs are in a different boat then those other teams becasue if they dont drop to the bottom 5 ,that pick is going to Boston
This gent that called in at 55:00 does not know what hes talking about !!! .Its easy to say that now with the benefit of hindsight . THe LEafs were trying to go for it and they went all in and it didint work I still beleive to this day that if Bennett had not run into Stolarz ( Cheap shot) in Game 2 ,the Leafs would have got by the Panthers and would have made the final against the Oilers .Most draft picks are a crap shoot anyway ( unless your picking in the top 5)
In short there is nothing wrong with trading picks to go for it ,the problem is Tree didint trade for the right guys .Like a 1st rounder to get LAughton ?? when i say that was like WTF
The Leafs are the only team that can go 82-0 in the regular season and get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs
Minten was a 3rd line projected center I remember people where saying this to justify the trade. Like bruh the kid was still developing and had all the tools and height of a 2nd line C and the leafs barely let him get time to make mistakes and learn how to play at a certain pace. It reeks of the Carter V. situation where the toiled in the minors for years before going to the Lightning and Panthers. Like unless you're a A1 prospect you have little chance of making a lineup then they keep Robertson and all these short guys because no one will take them we basically gave Boston two top 10 picks for Carlo to reward these chumps. When Carlo clearly wasn't who he was when his stats were clearly on a decline and then he ultimately needs surgery along with Tanev who can't stay healthy and Morgan that looks like hot garbage.
Wow Doug wow 😅
Tossing seasons shouldn’t be allowed – I want my money back. What a pathetic goal – first to the bottom. As if Toronto knows what to do with young talent anyways – they trade them away.
Sammy – please stop yelling! You make my ears shutdown like a Mom. Make your point and shut up.
In a vacuum the Leafs might be able to land a Robertson except its not a vacuum and many teams will be in on him if he becomes available. Leafs need to pull a Hershal Walker type trade where you move Matthews for a haul, and then look at moving Nylander for a smaller haul
The last 10 years have been no different than the 10 prior. Every year ends in embarrassment, disappointment and disaster. No one cares if they were good in the regular season. Take this to the studs. It’s be 60 years. What’s another 5-7? Seriously.
Great show. Sammy is passionate but whoa, high-octane, high-stroke risk factors 😅 Go Leafs…but looking like a retool/rebuild year(s)