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Wonder how John Tavares is feeling these days lol. Maybe the Islanders can pick him up for a couple years. I’m sure he would jump at the chance to play with Schaefer
the greatest player in cannucks franchise history is Marc Messier
Still waiting for the Matthews trade to drop
Hughes wasn’t gonna re-sign in Vancouver and told management that so the Canucks looked for the best return on they’re #1 asset and received 3 young entry level contracted player who could step right into the lineup immediately.not to mention receiving the Wilds first rounder.sounds like a solid management strategy to me
Awesome video!
Would love if you could show those 15 cases teams trading the star player vs young assets.
I’ve heard enough, blow up the leafs
The outcome is pain
Gave up on is a reach buddy, you can think of a better title than that.
Good coverage here but honestly, the Wild didn't give up on him. They have been to the playoffs almost every year since 2015 without making the second round and Billy G has shown that he is very solid in the past but needed to make a big move. This is the first year the Wild don't have Suter and Parise on their books and Guerin needed to make a ballsy fucking move to try and change the fact that the Wild haven't been past the first round in recent memory.
Also, I love Zeev and think he'll develop super well, but the term generational is thrown around too much. McDavid is generational. Crosby was generational. Ovechkin was generational. This term gets thrown around every year like the player is going to be the new McDavid. A lot of the time they end up being great, but they simply aren't generational. Zeev will be a top 10 defenseman one day IMO, but I never see him being better than Hughes or Makar.
Absolutely fascinating video. The absolute best video-essay hockey content creator. Thank you!
Who are you calling “generational”?
Sometimes change of scenery for player is good. Hughs owes us nothing. Glad for him and players we got are good deal. Ask me about Sherwood then say better keeping him unless something absolutely makes team better.
Why is no one talking about this,
https://youtu.be/FfT4l6P6Mrg?si=cDvb-lUGYjZHMJRH
ECHL is about to strike today
Tavares is the biggest whinner, little boy in a grown man's body ever to lace them up in the NHL! The Maple Laffs got exactly what they deserved! Another lame-duck loser who does more to hold the team back than help it! What TF where they thinking😭
The first trade that impacted me, though I wasn't aware of it at the time it happened, was…. At the age of 8, I fell in love with #4, Bobby Orr, and his Boston Bruins… By the age of 10, The Bruins had won 2 Stanley Cups, and I could name almost every player on their roster. It likely never would have happened without this deal happening 2 years before I really became aware of them (I lived in Vancouver, who didn't even have an NHL team when the trade went down!): The Chicago Blackhawks traded Phil Esposito, Ken Hodge, and Fred Stanfield to the Boston Bruins on May 15, 1967, for Gilles Marotte, Pit Martin, and goalie Jack Norris. All three of those players played significantly to the Cup wins, and of course, the franchise player (well, on any OTHER team!) moved was one of greatest goal scorers in NHL history.
Hope The Canucks ownership can ignore the bauble of 2 or 3 playoffs home dates $$$$$$ …. TEAM TANK !!!!!!
Thinking about the optics here
Aren't there only 5 teams in the league currently that dont have a former top 3 pick on their roster?
Boston, MN, Philly, STL, and Vancouver.
So, unless one of those teams win the cup this year, 84% of the teams have a chance of continuing that 'trend.' Doesn't feel all that shocking 😅
Eh.
Since the 2010 draft, only 3 teams picking in the top 4 of the draft have won the Cup with those players. Two were wagons in Chicago and the Avalanche. (Kane/Toews, Nate/Makar/Landeskog). Boston sneaks in when Seguin was a pup back in 2011. The data shows recent Cup winners had to pluck a top 4 draftee from a failed rebuild before winning it all.
Since that draft in '10, out of the nearly 60 players sliding on that first NHL jersey, only 6 won a Cup with that logo on their chest.
I agree that Buium is a talent. Not a Quinn Hughes, especially not anywhere close in the D zone. But easily the best of the BU puck moving defensemen that have played lately. (with the younger Hutson brother, Cole being #2…Lane seems to be either allergic to or disinterested in playing actual defense. The Habs need help.)
Tavares has been “meh” with the Leafs. Going to the Leafs is a career ending move for everyone. Matthews needs to get out of there before he’s just an also-ran.
how is quin hughes a prospect? how did they "give up" on him??? stupid video. reported.
Dont blame the players, most players 98% are expendable and treated like meat by their club. that is just the model.
I'm not sure it was the Sens that started to panic. As a Sharks fan if felt as if it was Doug Wilson that panicked. He thought he was going to sign JT that off season and when he bailed to Toronto Doug seems to have felt the need to do something and WAY overpaid for a pylon.
Money Money Money it is money
He’s not generational, neither is Rossi, neither is ohgren
Next up should be EP40, Demmer and Boes. Can not win a cup with EP40. He needs a team where he is 3 or 4 on the depth chart of scoring talent. Not a leader of a team. Demmer will be too old when the young skaters hit their stride in the rebuild. Trade him while he still has value. Sadly Boeser as well as I think he needs to be on a team with a Cup chance. He deserves it for all he has had to endure with the Canucks.
I can't grade this trade yet. It 100% depends on if the wild can reign Quinn. If they can, it's an A. If they can't, then they have up WAY too much for an 18 month rental. I didn't like giving up Buium, tbh…
How was that not off side?
Flames won the cup in 89 with there highest drafted player being al Macinnis at 15 overall
My teams missing step one: get a superstar player
It's simple. UNRESTRICTERD FREE AGENCY
The Wild did not give up on Zeev, cmon bruh
As a Canucks fan, thank you for a good objective look at the Hughes trade. We're streaking now (4-0 since the trade) but doing all this to end up probably still out of the playoffs AND missing a top 3 pick is not the play. But then again, Aquilini will never allow a full tank. Who knows, maybe Rossi, Zeev and Ohgren are the secret sauce to fully turning this season around.
Ok, Wild fan here, and I watched the whole video. It's never argued that the Wild "gave up" on Zeev. That said, just to set the story straight, we did not give up on him. This trade was painful for us because we were invested in these young guys, ESPECIALLY Zeev, because we saw his talent. Look at any Wild content creator and I don't think you could find a single negative comment on Zeev since we acquired him. Bill Guerin even said that all three of them would still be on the team if it wasn't Quinn Hughes that was available. I think both teams scratched each other's backs on this trade.
"When a Team 'Gives Up' on a Generational Talent" would probably be a more accurate way to title the video lol
The issue is tho, nobody wants to play in Vancouver and the ugly breakups are telling and ward off a lot of talent.
Like your content but definitely not generational and they definitely didnt give up
lol i know that the title is bait but cmon man, the wild did not "give up" on zeev, the trade doesn't happen without him, and zeev will likely not be generational, his ceiling is what hughes is now, no one is saying that they "don't know about this guy", because of his analytics, if you watch his game you know he's gonna be special. I like this trade for the wild, even if quinn doesn't resign, because regardless of that he fits the wild's timeline for a cup better than zeev does, zeev will not be a top 10 dman for another 3-5 years, and by that point kaprizov will be past his prime.
calling it betrayal on JT part is a bit silly, he was at the end of the contract and got offered to play for his dream team since he was a kid. anyone who says he shouldn't have gone is just a hater and would've done the same thing in his position. if it's the team he grew up watching, getting to play for them must feeling like a dream each day regardless of the outcome.
Both the class of 70 NHL teams (sabers and Canucks) are doomed by bad ownership
Flyers traded Jeff carter and mike richards just for them to go win cups w LA
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Canucks and the Rebuild is like water and oil. They don't blend.
"Has your team ever traded away a superstar player?" My team is Montreal…what do you think lol
The real lesson here is that Toronto can ruin any player.
technically Kirill is only making 9 rn 😉
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