Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake are joined by Chris Johnston to discuss the intricacies behind the Quinn Hughes trade to the Minnesota Wild. Why did the Vancouver Canucks feel they had to do this? What’s next for either team? Then, could Sidney Crosby be the missing piece to put Minnesota over the hump?
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49 Comments
Let me find out Billy G grabs Tage Thompson too
Minnesota grabbing Crosby is a pipe dream.
They have cap space.
After giving up 4 out of 6 1st round draft picks doesn’t leave a lot to trade.
As a Canucks fan, Hughes should've never been made the captain, but if he wasn't, I'm not sure who would be the second choice. Hughes is way too laid back, you can see it in the press conferences and if that's how he is, how can he motivate the team? Leading by example with his play,? That sort of works. The Canucks need more character and outspoken players. They had JT Miller and maybe that's why he didn't fit with the team.
me. I was furious about the Miller deal when it happened. Sure he had 100 pts, but all his underlying issues were present through his entire time on the team. Would have much rather had kept horvat
The fallout of this team is not solely on mgmt. The buzzkill media and fanbase has a major part. Going back to Horvat and Miller then Miller and Pettey, drama filled Q&A. Everyday coming to the rink and being asked why aren't you best friends, will take a toll on those players and the dressing room. Not everyone is best friends at work or on team but do what they have to do to get the job done. The media pestering players if they are happy everyday and then one day the players tell them and then berate the players why are they unhappy is a big reason why any player would want out of this city. They dont give them space and time to play. The headlines were heating up on Hughes future and being traded, the media would have ate him alive for 2Y, Mgmt got ahead of this one didnt allow it to fester in the media where his tradevalue would drop like Miller. Come and gone Horvat, Markstrom, Miller, Tocchet, Hughes…there's a pattern here, just let the kids play.
Blessing in disguise. Van needed a rebuild.
Who won the trade? The wild did. Plain and simple. Canucks got good players but not great players. Unless that first round produces a high caliber player, the canucks have a huge hole to fill to put butts in seats. They just told their fans in a way that they are rebuilding for a long long time….
Roberto Luongo was the best Canuck ever. The fact we didn't win with him sums up how pathetic Vancouver is.
Canucks – Only NHL team without a practice facility. What a joke. Time to grow up Aquaman and move out.
Hughes is a loser and a quitter. Good riddance!!
American born players have a hard time in Vanvouvers scrutiny. The media is so strong here. Only Canadian and Swede captains survive.
What’s wrong with Vancouver is that the gm is constantly trying to find shortcuts to build a team. Even today Rutherford is hoping we don’t have to go into a 4 or 5 year rebuild. The media doesn’t help either, understandable to say there was a rift between petey and miller but there was no truth whatsoever that it was the case with Horvat. The team was unbalanced before the Bo trade. Hroenik was great for Quinn’s development
As a Wild fan I’m gonna sit and enjoy Hughes. I’ll leave the worry to resign/Trade Hughes to Billy G because that’s his job.
Chris Johnston is the master of giving longwinded monologues that don’t actually answer the question
How many times this year have the boys talked about Crosby leaving Pittsburgh? It's never gonna happen, I wish they'd stop trying to make it a story
You would not get that kind of return for Marner. Marner is a 90 point winger and Hughes is a 90 point defenseman. They're not the same.
JT Miller sucks in New York. Dude has given up. Avery showed a clip of JT and he was straight legged, lost a board battle, turnover, all in same shift and his guy he lost board battle to scored and JT watched him skate away coasting.
As a wild fan. Zeev is a great skater, puck handler, needs alot of work defensively, has alot of turnovers and blows a tire alot on his turns lol. Ohgren is a sherwood type but not as aggressive, Rossi is a small decent 2nd 3rd line centerman.
Parise Suter was huge
It's Vancouver
5:32 Steve deserved that after his what's going on in Vancouver question….
I think they got a decent package, and I read somewhere that Hughes wanted to be accomodating by going to a place that not only did he feel comfortable going to but also I heard he saw the various packages and was like "Yeah minnesotas package looks great and I wouldn't mind going there" Not sure how true that is or if i even remember where I heard it but the kid seems like he genuinely didn't want to harm the canucks with his departure.
Like every Canuck who gets traded or traded for except for one I wish no ill will on the kid.
I hope he does super well in Minnesota. My great grandfather was a Minnesotan Quebecois guy and I've never met a bad Minnesotan.
The only Canuck or former Canuck I will ever will Ill will on is of course Mark John Douglas Messier because Totally Screw that guy in every possible way.
Who doesn't Miller have a problem with? Seems like an emotional crybaby that crashes out on everyone.
…We have seen this song and dance with Vancouver before. Remember the Cam Neely trade???. Older Canuck fans…STILL…have not forgiven them for that trade. Granted Cam Neely had not yet completely emerged into the player he later went on to become when he arrived in Boston…but still…
They weren’t mentioned but the media loves to dunk on a team like the Hurricanes for being cheap but nobody will bat an eye at Vancouver when their system is so broken and toxic their best players demand to leave
Canucks fan here:
1. Bo was fine most of the time, but Miller was more productive, and hard-nosed.
2. Canucks let too many glue guys go after their most recent playoff run. Zadorov and Ian Cole come to mind. The guys that came in to replace them weren't as good.
3. Miller turned out to be too much of a hothead for his own good. Canucks didn't do quite as well in trading him to the Rangers, but… oh well.
4. Quinn wasn't gonna stick around, so a deal had to be crafted to move him. Canucks did quite well with the return they got from the Wild.
5. More moves are likely coming.
6. I'm not so sure acquiring Hughes is enough to make the Wild as competitive as they wanna be with teams like the Stars and the Avs. But… they may not be done either.
Lol!! Crosby to Minnesota bahahahaha. If he goes anywheres its Colorado or Montreal.
It didn't surprise me Guerin traded Rossi. He has been shopping and lowballing him for two years. Guerin doesn't like small players. Getting Hughes is huge for the Wild, but not sure what they have left to trade for another center, even a center of Rossi's quality.
They were missing boeser and demko game 7 against the oilers.. should have been a completely different game. 😢
As a Wild fan, I fantasize that Quinn and his agent said “trade me” or “I’m leaving” to every response that Canucks had.
The bigger question is, why did Quinn go to Wild and not NJD? Would he not want to play with his brothers? Wasn't this the main topic for the past months? Is it that NJ did not have a good offer? But from what we know, it was said that it will be Quinn's decision? Maybe NJ is absolutely falling apart, and his brothers basically told him Do not come here? I could see a tarde where Canucks get Palat/Hamilton/Nemec
Of course Quinn likes Aquilini because he was the one signing his paycheques. But it’s still the owner’s fault for all of this at the end of the day. Trevor Linden, the most respected Canuck in franchise history, left because ownership insisted on no rebuild in 2013, when it was clear the moment was over. It doesn’t matter who you make GM or President if the owner is mandating playoffs every year at any cost. Rutherford is the first Canucks executive with Stanley Cup rings. But he can’t do the job effectively if the owner is insisting something that isn’t feasible or going to lead to long term success.
The Canucks in the last ten years are like a ship that changes direction every 5 minutes, ending up going no-where.
Crosby isn’t leaving period
No chance Horvat makes team Canada, gimme a break
I'm hoping Quinn's brothers force their way out of New Joysey to join my wild🤣😂🤣 And Vancouver hasn't lost with their haul of players🤷♂️
Rossi was hurt so often. He can be very good and then disappear. Zeev Buium was the only player I hated to see leave the Wild. He's only played a few games in his young career. Tons of potential.
Canucks as the boys said should be looking for at least 1 more pick in the first round, and I think at least one if not two more in the second round.
Here’s are some Players to target at the 2026 draft if the draft started today…
VANS first overall pick: McKenna, Stenberg, or Verhoeff, whatever the consensus best pick I feel like you can’t lose with any of these 3.
A top 15 pick: This could come from a trade with Boston (they’ve expressed interest in both Garland and Sherwood..)projected around 15-16 are two Canadian centres; Caleb Malhotra and Ryan Roobroek, whomever is still available. Ryan Roobroek is bigger at 6’4 and 216lbs, and a bit older (he will be 19 by the start of the 2026-27 hockey season), while Malhotra is more two way, both are above PPG in OHL rn. Canucks should probably think about adding size but I’m biased and I favour Mannys boy. Euther would be a great pick.
Minnesota’s pick: Speaking of size, American C/RW Brooks is a scary 6’6 2231lbs, he’s a bit of diamond in the rough, has the typical “needs to get to NHL level skating ability” criticism that big players (especially forwards..) receive but the intelligence and vision are there (he’s apparently quite the playmaker. If he can harness that giant body Mother Nature gave him, he could a very intimidating top 6 player. I don’t like player comparisons usually, but his abd Tage Thompsons development trajectories are uncannily similar.
*note, if we selected either McKenna or Stenberg, we know have a potentially very formidable 1st line, all in the 1st round.
2nd round, the Brian Burke plan: if Canucks finish last as we now all hope they do, Canucks have a lot of power with the first pick of the 2nd round. Having the first pick allows a team to pick anyone still on the board, which is a powerful trading piece in itself. I’d like them to get maybe one more mid to late 2nd rounder, this could be achieved through another roster player trade (see Garland/sherwood to Boston..) or they could trade their first pick of the 2nd (33rd overall) to a team with multiple lower 2nd round picks (3 teams have two pick, Utah and Pitts have 3 each). If say Jack Hextall (of the Hextall family, and an Utah type player..) was still absolve but would likely be picked before Utahs turn, we could trade our 33rd for their 41 and 42nd. The reason we would do all this…is to draft two players that would greatly benefit from playing within the same organization. The Ruck Twins, Liam and Markus Ruck are projected to go in and around the late 2nd to early 3rd rounds. Getting two picks in the mid 2nd would insure this. Mirror twins, Liam is right hand shot and Markus is a lefty. They’re speedy two way hard checking forwards with natural scoring touch. They’d be perfect on a line centred by Cootes. Still early, lots can change in draft order (those picks are Utah’s own 2nd rounder and NYR’s they acquired in a trade, so you’re counting on both of them to finish close to each other in the standings). Then the Sedins go up and select them, would definitely get some good press.
My pick for the next Lane Hutson is undersized Swedish offensive RD, Axel Ellofsson. His stats are great so he’s likely being overlooked due to size but as we’ve seen in today’s NHL, smaller players (even D-men) can flourish.
No 3rd round pick thanks to the Zadorov trade, but 1st pick of the 4th should be a good spot to select Big Somoan American stay at home defender, Noah Ta’Amu. The guy looks like he could fight in the UFC, and he can FIGHT to be sure, but he projects to be more than just an enforcer, he’s a smart though low scoring guy who could compliment a smaller more offensive minded partner.
So there we have it. In one draft we’ve just made a future top line, competed a 3rd or 2nd with Cootes and the Ruck twins, and a defensive pairing. That’s a very good start to a rebuild. It would probably be wise to not exhaust all our draft capital for one draft, maybe this year it’s trading veteran UFA’s like Sherwood and Kane (don’t underestimate Kanes trade deadline value). Maybe next year it’s Garland, Hronek (or maybe Detroit wants him back for this year maybe?..). Not that I want to trade every veteran, but the writing is on the wall now, whether it’s short or long, if guys want to win now VAN is not the place rn, I’m sure similar mutually beneficial trades like millers and Hughes can be worked out.
Jim Rutherford traded away Hughes but didn’t burn the bridge. I applaud Rutherford for his commitment
Bo Horvat was a team first player. It was disrespectful to let him go. His leadership is missed and he would add a missing work ethic many teams lack; including the Leafs.😮
What's going on? The same thing that always does in Vancouver. Ownership.
17:44 that was the excuse for the Ducks being dog water for years
Now look at them
This isnt brain surgery. Francesco has been playing pretend gm, thats the main reason van has been terrible. You have an uneducated trust fund baby trying to build a hockey team. Simple
Patterson will score 90 goals this year, because he's paid really good!
Rossi is pretty good, Buium will be really good. Oghren is pretty %enteric, the 1st round pick is a guess!
Buium is the best asset, the rest are decent to questionable! You lost, just admit it future American citizens!
Ogre, will get you 12 goals per year. Rossi will be 20. Buium is the diamond in the trade! He's what the GM truly wanted!,
Hate to break it to ya but Hughes ain’t signing in Minnesota.
The biggest theme with the modern age American born star players is that they all have so much agency now and have no interest in staying in Canada. They have good markets now back home, better weather, no or less income tax. They don't like the economic and social situation in Canada which is worse than ever and these guys do not want to raise their family in Canada. Simple and honest as that. You look at Gaudreau, Matthew Tkachuk, Hughes, next for sure will be Matthews, probably Brady Tkachuk after that as well.