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RED WINGS BEATDOWN – CAN DETROIT BOUNCE BACK? – Winged Wheel Podcast – Nov. 30th, 2025



Detroit, and Michigan, sports are going through a tough time right now, and unfortunately the Detroit Red Wings are at the center of that.

Tune in as we begin by discussing the Red Wings’ 6-3 loss to Nikita Kucherov and the Tampa Bay Lightning, including strong play from Michael Rasmussen & J.T. Compher, poor play and turnovers after a Gibson save from Simon Edvinsson & Moritz Seider, Johansson and Bernard-Docker getting beat on defense, and more in a frustrating game for Todd McLellan’s squad.

Next, Detroit’s shootout loss to Jeremy Swayman and the Boston Bruins, including Kastelic’s mismatch fight where Moritz Seider got dropped, our thoughts on the response from Ben Chiarot but not too many other Red Wings, Dylan Larkin, Lucas Raymond, Patrick Kane, and others contributing offensively, & Detroit being too slow to pick things up in the loss. After that, Dylan Larkin and Todd McLellan’s comments about effort, care, and overthinking the game, and how that’s affecting players like Marco Kasper, Patrick Kane, Nate Danielson, Alex DeBrincat, and Emmitt Finnie.

We then take a look at the NHL & Atlantic Division standings, Steve Yzerman’s team’s December outlook, and what can be done to maintain standing in the tight playoff race – can Cam Talbot and John Gibson start providing more support in net?

After that, an update on the Detroit Red Wings prospect pipeline, including notes on Sebastian Cossa (will Yzerman call him up at some point?), Trey Augustine, Max Plante, Carter Bear, Jesse Kiiskinen, & more Hockeytown hopefuls.

All of that & lots more before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment – enjoy!

Intro: 00:00

TBL Game Recap: 3:40

Seider/Kastelic Fight & BOS Game Recap: 12:10

Larkin & McLellan’s Effort Comments: 25:50

Atlantic Division Update & Red Wings Outlook: 39:10

Prospect Update: 53:45

Overtime: 56:50

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17 Comments

  1. No physicality…Bad Defense even worse tending. Summary without watching. Lol Bring up Watson, Shine and MBN.

  2. Never can tell. One day you're walking down the street whistling dixie, then all of a sudden you have a grade 3 hamstring. Who would have guessed?

  3. We can still catch the Predators
    "Trade Larkin, CAT and Kane"

    No way this team makes playoffs let alone win a cup within 5years.
    Worst thing we could do is trade assets… we need to trade for assets and Tank.

  4. Been a Red Wings fan for over 40 years, they have a great history. But this team is soft. It seems like they have some nice guys who say all the right things after losing, but when the rubber meets the road, they don’t get it done. It would be miraculous if they make the playoffs.

  5. Is it galaxy brain to think that we only get 1 of the bottom 6 guys to perform at a time because they are all the same player essentially?

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