Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the imminent fire sale in Vancouver and who they believe they should move and whether or not it’s time to go full rebuild. ontreal Canadiens and share thri thoughts on what they believe needs to change.
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Quinn Hughes to New Jersey confirmed.
Do it! We need all Hughes brothers on the same team!
Yes they should
You guys rock hi from Alberta
Leafs win 1 game…barely, and SDP immediately forgets that it’s a shitty team. Blind optimism to the very end.😂
THG keeps saying this, and I'm only turning 30 this year…But I also don't have any faith whatsoever that the Canucks will win a Stanley Cup in my lifetime.
Jesse's beard is …unique
Quinn Hughes is going to Jersey so it doesnt matter if they blow it up.
Jesse, what the hell are you growing on your face rn man
If Hughes isn’t looking to resign in the offseason going into his final year before UFA, you have to go and find a contender who’s willing to pay hand over fist for him and take it. This organization historically just lets players leave for nothing, this can’t happen with Hughes if it comes to that.
Every decision made since the playoff season has regressed the team. There’s no vision, no plan, no direction, why would Hughes want to stay for this.
What a disaster, we get one of the best defensemen to ever play the game and we do nothing with him.
Andlauer is a fan of the team first and an owner second. I'm glad he's speaking up like this. I guess Jesse is just jealous that Ottawa has 100x better ownership than the leafs lmao. Damn Jesse, your takes really suck.
Jesse is the brain in this vodcast. 🙂
Canucks have to be one of the top 3 worst run franchises in sports
But I thought they were about to sign Bedard to this winning team?
It's crazy that it's taken other fanbases this long to understand the Canucks' problems when every Canucks fan has been saying it was Aquilini since like 2018
Right now, the only Canadian teams who should NOT blow it all up, are Montreal and Ottawa. Maybe Winnipeg.
Sorry but Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver are all in need of a full rebuild.
Canucks management and ownership is a complete joke.
Would have been cool to have THG on this discussion but he is a busy man!
Canucks can retain in UFA they have cap space and he hasn’t been that bad this season he’s generated more shots then anyone on the team and hasn’t had the best puck luck and he’s still got 12 points in 24 games and hasn’t missed any games due to injury you’re not getting much but you’ll get more then the 4th they paid for him especially if they retain some salary.
Also I’d look into trading Debrusk to Edmonton he would likely waive his NTC to play there and we could retain on him as well I like him but he is streaky and not getting any younger. Garland I’d love to keep but I’d also consider trading him and even though he’s signed to a new contract it’s at fair value. I wouldn’t trade any defence aside from Forbert or Tyler Meyers. We need to keep all our young defenders in case Quinn wants to leave.
I would also trade Wuinn at the deadline if he makes any indication of wanting to leave they will get more for him for two playoff runs then ever else and he has no trade protection.
The one year Vancouver did amazing 2 3 years ago hid all the problems. The team and fans didn't want to accept that they over performed. 2017 the sens did the same this. Blow it up its never going to work
That kid really needs to shave if he can’t grow an actual beard…
Paying Vancouver fans couldn’t stomach a rebuild so ownership will never do one. Fans will still pay to go watch mediocrity but not a full tank for high level picks.
Thochet is not that good a coach.
Geography plays a big part of why there’s no practice facility in Vancouver. High land values will mean a rink needs to be built two hours away from the downtown core where games are played. The two current practice rinks are 20 minutes away so the calculus is not hard unless a city is willing to give up $50M in land value somewhere for a rink. It’s like trying to build a new rink around downtown Toronto, it’s not happening.
We need a full rebuild but it will never happen under the current owner so it's whatever
I think most knowledgable Canucks fans, especially the ones who have been fans at least as long as I have (1990, when I was 9), would support a rebuild. It's just these kids who became fans when the team went to the Finals in 2011, who think 3-4 years is an eternity, who don't Yes, you need a plan to get out of the rebuild so you don't end up like Buffalo. Absolutely. But if you're constantly trading draft picks and prospect for older guys with lower ceilings, this is what you get. You're never good enough to make a serious run and be a contender and you're never bad enough to do anything about it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again – Trevor Linden was right. That should be on t-shirts all over the Lower Mainland. I don't blame Rutherford. The man has Cups with 2 different teams. He knows how to do this. But it's hard to build a contender when the owner is telling you to make the playoffs every year at any cost and that philosophy has failed all but 2 times. We've chased good people out of the organization, beyond Trevor, because ownership refuses to let a finally competent management group do their job. They let this go for so long that now they're definitely losing Hughes. That's inevitable. And I'm sick of Zoomer and Alpha fans telling me to "believe." Kids, you listen to autotune and can't tell what a real voice sounds like. Don't talk to me about this stuff.
if a player is told they are going in another direction and he isn't in their plans they will probably waive their no-move. aquilini's are the worst ownership in the league. no practice facility after 21 years with this team. a cup isn't their priority.
Damn, I was really hoping Steve was gonna whip out the devil horns for the media and fans part
The canucks could add mcdavid to their roster and not be seen as a cup favorite, maybe not even a contender. Yes you need to rebuild.
Burst his bubblee
How are the Canucks not in rebuild territory. We're, like, 30th in the league. We have made the playoffs twice since 2016. We're doing the same old song and dance of "trade players showing value for unproven B tier players who we believe we can Moneyball rehabilitate, but who will likely never pan out, just like a laundry list of Linden Vey, Sven Baertschi, Goldobin, Podkolzin, Derrick Pouliot, Lukas Reichel, Beagle, Heinen, whatever…."
Rutherford is off his rocker, Aquilini is off his rocker, neither of them should be let anywhere near the media. The executive comms are as ridiculous as you say.
Also, how you fire an owner is giving them less of your money.
"there are vets available"
AKA
PLEASE GIVE US AT LEAST A 4th FOR KANE!!
Did this city not host the muthafuckin Winter Olympics? Was there nothing that was built for the olympics that could have been modified to accommodate NHL training facilities afterwards?
Demko is an elite goalie, who cannot stay healthy. The Canucks were stupid to give him that contract extension. It might be different if they were locks for the playoffs and would only need him healthy for that, but they're definitely not locks
You should be talking about the leafs You have no idea what you are talking about with Vancouver
I think Jake Sanderson and Lane Hutson are a lot closer to Hughes than people think. Hughes gets a few more points, but Sanderson is elite defensively and puts up lots of points. Hutson has the potential to put up as many points as Hughes too.
Evander Kane would be a great add for Montreal or Ottawa if the acquisition cost isn't crazy. I'd love Tkachuk and Kane knocking people around in the playoffs. Montreal also needs more grit, but with NHL caliber players(Xhekaj is not a very good dman), so Kane would fit well there also