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DANIELSON DEBUTS & DETROIT’S SCORING DROUGHT – – Winged Wheel Podcast – Nov. 9th, 2025



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Nate Danielson has made his NHL debut, but unfortunately the Detroit Red Wings are also going through a big scoring drought…

Tune in as we open by discussing the Red Wings’ 4-1 loss to Panarin and the New York Rangers, including Patrick Kane’s return, Jonathan Quick outplaying Cam Talbot, no offense from Dylan Larkin, Lucas Raymond, Alex DeBrincat, Marco Kasper, or the rest of Detroit’s top players, and more as McLellan’s squad had a disappointing return to Hockeytown.

Next, Nate Danielson being called up & how Todd McLellan & Steve Yzerman are sending a message to the likes of Michael Rasmussen and other bottom 6 players, before a breakdown of the loss to Connor Bedard & the Chicago Blackhawks: Larkin, Raymond, & Simon Edvinsson connecting for the only goal, terrible penalty kill and power play, & an overall lack of scoring. We then discuss the scoring drought overall and why the defense behind Seider & Edvinsson is good but the offense is struggling, and how the bottom 6 offer no support when the rest of the team goes cold.

After that, a look at what may be causing the special teams to struggle, and John Gibson’s tough start to his Detroit Red Wings career, before jumping into a look at what Nate Danielson being called up means for his career, what’s next, how he compares to Marco Kasper, and what this means for Yzerman’s roster choices.

Finally, positive Hockeytown news as Max Plante and Trey Augustine are dominating the NCAA, & NHL news including Binnington, Jordan Kyrou trade thoughts, & NHL pipeline changes before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment – enjoy!

Intro: 00:00

NYR Game Recap: 3:55

Danielson Called Up: 11:55

CHI Game Recap: 14:15

Scoring Woes: 23:25

Special Teams & John Gibson: 44:40

Danielson’s Next Steps: 52:25

Augustine & Plante: 1:00:15

NHL News: 1:02:25

Overtime: 1:13:30

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33 Comments

  1. Maybe Danielson will improve the bottom six enough to give the Wings the valuable secondary scoring needed to keep in the playoff hunt.

  2. Am I the only one who sees seider, charot and at times the other D being above the hash marks and on the wrong side more than any reasonable Dman should be? It blows my mind and pisses me off to no end

  3. The Montreal Canadiens have talent all over their roster and we don’t. At some point it goes past just luck. We still don’t have 1 single game breaking talent on this roster. How TF is that possible.

  4. When you get goalied so often, maybe it's not actually getting goalied, and maybe our forwards just aren't converting effectively enough.

    I also don't think it's a coincidence that the team started struggling when MBN got sent down. The lack of physicality becomes so much more noticeable when a guy like that isn't wearing down the opponent.

  5. NOW NOW?!! I'v been saying they have to make a trade. MO 's value went way down… Are you guys INSANE!!!!

  6. I would consider trying Berggren with Larks and Raymond. Danielson centering Kane and DeBrincat. Kasper with Appleton and Finnie as a hybrid line. Copp, Compher, and JVR or Ras. Trying to get some offense going. Kasper being cold isn’t helping. Finnie isn’t doing anything wrong, but maybe Berggren can play with the top line. Might get him going. Finnie might have some chemistry there with Kasper and Appleton and easier opponents. I think their play styles would be tough to play against. May get some offense going. JBD seemed to have a complimentary game with Johansson.

    I think Danielson and Kasper could both be 2C material. I feel like Danielson might have more offensive upside and may be worth exploring there since Kasper has been cold.

  7. This team continues to have a loser mentality even with the Todd father running the ship. Along with Yzerman's construction of this roster that nucleus inside that locker room has to change. This team is painful to watch especially watching the other teams who have been bad for so long too now lap this team in a shorter rebuild time and are lightyears better than this team even teams out west like the ducks…I hate it because I wish this team was as good as the ducks, the habs etc but noooo this team just keeps running back this trainwreck. Also pretty pathetic dive attempt on Larkins part with Bertuzzi..stick barely tapped side of his helmet. disgusting seeing that from the captain then in post game he's already back to sad sack captain mopey making the same excuses he and others always make after a loss. I've enjoyed their good start but reality is setting back in. they are still frauds and not good.

  8. In regards to the wings finishing, they need to focus on elevating their shots into the upper part of the net. They keep shooting low and they keep getting blocked.

  9. Gibson has been an major dissapointment for us. Raymond since the injury is no better than Tarasenko. Yzerman has Cap and needs to make a big move before this gets out of control.

  10. Maybe it is time to stop fetishising these draft picks who, everyone has been telling us for years, are amazing but turns out they are not.

  11. If memory serves me right Kasper started going cold last year at the end of the year. I only see his fate as being traded regardless whether he catches fire for a little bit or not. I think we should allow the team to gel together the rest of the year. Get our big forward or number one draft pick defenseman and start doing some releasing and trading getting rid of some of that dead weight. JVR is pretty much retired.

  12. Can we just stop the dump and chase hockey. We need solid entries in o zone.

    ASP would benefit from that instead forcing him and other D’s just trying to find a stick on a forward that then tries to chase the puck. Lots of icings wasted

  13. Raymond played way too much golf this summer. Starting to move to my shit list. Hope passes, wall play, nothing effort at times. Finnish your shots multimillionaire multimillionaire

  14. Nobody is scared of the wings so these teams come in and tee the wings up using their super stars.

    Wings don’t have a grind line, they don’t have a power forward that will knock the snot out of other teams so players like Bernard comes in and plays like a super stars.

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