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Today we’re talking about the Detroit Red Wings, and some of their top prospects playing in the SHL right now, particularly Joe Veleno and Moritz Seider.
Steve Yzerman’s recent presser updated us on the status of these two, as we now know the Red Wings plan to keep them in the SHL for the remainder of the league’s 2020-2021 season.
We’re also citing an interview done with Yzerman earlier in the offseason, where he mentioned that he doesn’t think Joe Veleno is particularly ready for a step up into the NHL.
The Athletic Article: https://theathletic.com/2179373/2020/11/20/nhl-prospects-in-europe/
This video is taking place after the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
The 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs involved sixteen teams, which were the Boston Bruins, Tampa Bay Lightning, Washington Capitals, Philadelphia Flyers, Montreal Canadiens, Carolina Hurricanes, New York Islanders, and Columbus Blue Jackets in the East, and the Colorado Avalanche, St. Louis Blues, Vegas Golden Knights, Vancouver Canucks, Calgary Flames, Chicago Blackhawks, Arizona Coyotes, and Dallas Stars in the West.
This also is taking place a few days after the 2020 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2020 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
1st) New York Rangers, Alexis Lafrenière
2nd) Los Angeles Kings, Quinton Byfield
3rd) Ottawa Senators (from San Jose Sharks), Tim Stützle
4th) Detroit Red Wings, Lucas Raymond
5th) Ottawa Senators, Jake Sanderson
6th) Anaheim Ducks, Jamie Drysdale
7th) New Jersey Devils, Alexander Holtz
8th) Buffalo Sabres, Jack Quinn
9th) Minnesota Wild, Marco Rossi
10th) Winnipeg Jets, Cole Perfetti
11th) Nashville Predators, Yaroslav Askarov
12th) Florida Panthers, Anton Lundell
13th) Carolina Hurricanes (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Seth Jarvis
14th) Edmonton Oilers, Dylan Holloway
15th) Toronto Maple Leafs (from Pittsburgh Penguins), Rodion Amirov
16th) Montreal Canadiens, Kaiden Guhle
17th) Chicago Blackhawks, Lukas Reichel
18th) New Jersey Devils (from Arizona Coyotes), Dawson Mercer
19th) New York Rangers (from Calgary Flames), Braden Schneider
20th) New Jersey Devils (from Vancouver Canucks), Shakir Mukhamadullin
21st) Columbus Blue Jackets, Yegor Chinakov
22nd) Washington Capitals (from Carolina Hurricanes via New York Rangers and Calgary Flames), Hendrix Lapierre
23rd) Philadelphia Flyers, Tyson Foerster
24th) Calgary Flames (from Washington Capitals), Connor Zary
25th) Colorado Avalanche, Justin Barron
26th) St. Louis Blues, Jake Neighbours
27th) Anaheim Ducks (from Boston Bruins), Jacob Perreault
28th) Ottawa Senators (from New York Islanders), Ridly Greig
29th) Vegas Golden Knights, Brendan Brisson
30th) Dallas Stars, Mavrik Bourque
31st) San Jose Sharks (from Tampa Bay Lightning), Ozzy Wiesblatt
Moritz Seider was one of the top NHL prospects at the 2019 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2019 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The Top 28 of the draft went as follows:
1st – New Jersey Devils, Jack Hughes
2nd – New York Rangers, Kaapo Kakko
3rd – Chicago Blackhawks, Kirby Dach
4th – Colorado Avalanche (from Ottawa Senators), Bowen Byram
5th – Los Angeles Kings, Alex Turcotte
6th – Detroit Red Wings, Moritz Seider
7th – Buffalo Sabres, Dylan Cozens
8th – Edmonton Oilers, Philip Broberg
9th – Anaheim Ducks, Trevor Zegras
10th – Vancouver Canucks, Vasili Podkolzin
11th – Arizona Coyotes (from Philadelphia Flyers), Victor Soderstrom
12th – Minnesota Wild, Matthew Boldy
13th – Florida Panthers, Spencer Knight
14th – Philadelphia Flyers (from Arizona Coyotes), Cam York
15th – Montreal Canadiens, Cole Caufield
16th – Colorado Avalanche, Alex Newhook
17th – Vegas Golden Knights, Peyton Krebs
18th – Dallas Stars, Thomas Harley
19th – Ottawa Senators (from Columbus Blue Jackets), Lassi Thomson
20th – Winnipeg Jets (from Winnipeg via New York Rangers), Ville Heinola
21st – Pittsburgh Penguins, Samuel Poulin
22nd – Los Angeles Kings (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Tobias Bjornfot
23rd – New York Islanders, Simon Holmstrom
24th – Nashville Predators, Philip Tomasino
25th – Washington Capitals, Connor McMichael
26th – Calgary Flames, Jakob Pelletier
27th – Tampa Bay Lightning, Nolan Foote
28th – Carolina Hurricanes, Ryan Suzuki
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Surprised they wouldn't want every roster player they could get
My Aunt Arctic loved this video 😉
Antarctica
Antartica hype. Bring it on. Great video!
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Valeno isn't ready though. He lacks confidence for whatever reason as has since he went pro.. maybe mentally he doesn't but his play seems that way. Doesnt have a killer instinct, relies too much on skating instead of knowing when to get meat and potatoes with it. Whatever his issue its a head issue and how he approaches situations reminds me of the younger guy playing with older guys, even if they're the same size.
And I want a cup, not just make the playoffs. And you only get better with experience so I'm ok watching these guys grow and taking the bumps along the way.
This isnt new info, we have known for months that Veleno and seiders contract in the shl had no nhl opt out and they would be there until the shl season concludes.
Veleno isn't nhl ready I agree, but yzerman didn't make some new statement we didn't know. It's best for development for the kid to play hockey, so they made the decision to lock him in with the shl to play hockey and develop, knowing he wouldn't challenge for a roster spot with Detroit anyways. Seider is a completely different story, more than likely could earn a roster spot, but like veleno, his contract doesnt allow him to opt out.
Really it's all about the shl, contracts, no new information
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It’s worth noting that Seider is 6th in the SHL in Corsi For/Against at 62.37%, and is 1st in Corsi For/Against in all players with >5 games played, currently. With him it’s more than his stat line, but how dominant of a shutdown defender he is proving to be (minus some obvious mistakes than any 19 year old is going to make). He’s such an exciting kid to watch. Also, Antarctica!
maybe veleno gets some games when the swedish schedule is finished.
the shl made a policy that if an shl team loans a player from an nhl organization they have to play in the shl for the whole season, therefore a lot of player went to allsvenskan instead which did not have that policy
tanking time…
Seider is definitely looking like an NHL ready player, and that is both a good and bad thing – the good is that he shouldn't see the AHL but the bad is that the ELC slider is only 7 games this season so it's either going to be a 7 game cameo appearance or the team might just decide to burn up ELC time and let him play regardless – over to you Mr Y!! Veleno is not yet at that point but it wouldn't do him any harm to at least have a taste of the NHL although I'm not sure an extended period sitting in the taxi squad would be good for either player. Gio, I'm desperately trying to get Antarctica into this post somehow but it's a bit beyond me so just in case you don't post another Red Wings video before Xmas day, have a great time and many thanks for all the posts you've made this year. I discovered your channel during lockdown in the UK and I've followed you ever since so many thanks dude and keep up the good work!!!!👍👍👍👍
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I don’t know if “not ready” is exactly right, but I do think the SHL is the best fit for his development at this point. It’s a modest step up from the AHL and a great league to learn how to be a well rounded player. He’ll be a very good middle C in the NHL, but there’s no rush at all here. Let him finish his season there, then come back to NA in a few months.
I hear that Antarctica is the latest tourist hotspot right now
Don’t care if the Wings are bad again, they’re still fun to watch, especially if you’ve got nothing to do in Antarctica.
Not a huge surprise to me, struggled with GRG and took awhile to get on track.
He is a great skater but not elite. He has had issues with shot selection and even sought out specialist to change sticks in attempts to generate some offense. Even traded from Saint John to Drummondville in the Q for some unknown reason.
Assist first 3C is a fair projection.
Veleno was an easy choice to send to the SHL. I think hes gonna develop into a fine player but there are to many players(young and old) ahead of him at this point. Seider could probably play a limited role and maybe more but why push it? I'd be really happy if the team this year didnt finish last. You can start him early in the SHL with more minutes and you dont have to play him more then 7 games. Good video btw.
Antarctica! Dey-Twa is going to be alright. It will be interesting to see what last minute moves Stevie has land on his desk in the next week or 2.
I love Antarctica
Seider is so ready to play that he doesn't even need camp. And I'm pretty sure Yzerman knows that.
Look at the Detroit roster,. Most of the older veterans have two year deals. Most of the youth is signed for 4-5 years or still on ELC's. Not much dead CAP money after this year (just Abdelkader). The Wings are set to bring up the youth in 21-22 and 22-23. They have cap room to sign them for longer terms and to put quality vets around them. Yeah… it's going to be a tough few seasons for wins. But by 23-24 if the prospects pan out, like they seem to be doing so far, it's going to be very exciting. Until then… we are stuck in Antarctica.
Veleno is not ready. For some reason, some Detroit fans think so. Even the Anderson's who cover Grand Rapids said he was getting closer through the end of the last season but wasn't there. He still needed a half season in the AHL at the very least. With everything that has gone down, it'll probably be a half season in the 21-22 season at least.
Now you say Antarctic, well I say that everyone is missing a few facts: (1) Unlike the European players, Veleno never played before on the larger Rinks across the pond. Therefore he is going to need a full season in SHL just to adjust. (2) Veleno has up until this season always played against players of his own age, not against men with 5-10 years of professional experience. Again he will need a full season to adjust. (3) Yzerman and Detroit always likes two-way players and Veleno until now has mostly been an offensive only type of guy. Yet once again, he needs time to learn the backchecking, annoying style of play that is preferred in Detroit. Lets not forget that Detroit that loves a Gordie Howe Hat trick and the Grind Line more than a bunch of points by a player.
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The shl regular season should be over in mid march
One thing with velenos point production is that he is on one of the bottom 4 team in the shl and its where uncommon in sweden that players in bad teams get a lot of points so i think that 11 points in 22 games or what it was is actually good for a 19/20 year old
I'm not surprised Velano isn't ready for the NHL, but we did know when he signed in Sweden that was the scenario.
Yzerman wants his team to be better than last year but not that much better. He wants and needs another top 5 pick. Then he wants to get thru the expansion draft relatively unscathed.
Next year, if we don't got a 1st ovr, we need luke Hughes. We snubbed Quinn and ate already paying for it
New drinking game, take a shot whenever "indeed" is said. I think I'm drunk.
Seider i feel is ready. Agree on Velenno. Either way we don't have a suitable roster to compete anyways so it doesn't hurt to have both in SHL for their year. Only argument is to have Mo in the NHL to burn his ELC so can get him on a cheaper per year
Well then something must have been delayed because ever since Veleno signed with Malmö, their GM told us that he would be here for the entire season and not going back to the NHL until maybe next season.
It's also hard to say here because Veleno plays for Malmö, who'd been EXTREMELY bad this season. Not at all with their character and probably one of the worst seasons they've ever had.
Whilst Seider plays for Rögle, who has the complete opposite probably one of their best seasons ever – when they usually stays in the bottom of the league.
And trust me, watching every Malmö game I know that Veleno has played really well for being on such a crappy team. If he were to go anywhere else in the SHL his point total would go up.
As someone that follows Rogle BK and Seider every game i will say that he looks more NHL ready then any player in SHL over the last years. He look like a young mix between Lidström and Kronwall. Seider will be a leading player in NHL for many many years.