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NEGATIVE CANUCKS NEWS: BAD SPENDING FOR VANCOUVER & PATRIK ALLVIN?



NEGATIVE CANUCKS NEWS: BAD SPENDING FOR VANCOUVER & PATRIK ALLVIN?

So, I think at some point it was inevitable that we would go out there and talk about this because it’s getting kind of worse for the Vancouver Conucks, but that’s only if you’re looking at this piece right here. Things could be looking better, but I guess we got to wait and see. But right now, we are taking a look at a negative Vancouver Conucks update courtesy of The Athletic. Because earlier this week, the folks on I think it was Domician’s model, they went out there and posted the NHL contract efficiency rankings of 2025. This article essentially ranks all 32 NHL teams by how well they’re spending their money. And it has a whole bunch of calculations as to the players and how much they cost. It also has an analysis on how much they should cost based off of how well they perform. In Vancouver, they had themselves what was the fifth best NHL contract spending in the league a year ago. This year, they’re down there to 22. So, 17 teams past the Vancouver Canucks in the rankings here. We’ll dive into the graphic. And honestly, like I’m not going to lie, the majority of this video is probably just going to be looking at this graphic, zoomed in, of course, so we could see all the numbers, but you could see one of the small excerpts here. There were a few people who wondered about Quinn Hughes’s deal when the best contracts list dropped, and the only reason for the omission was the term remaining. His 99.8% positive value probability is still really good, and I would assume it’s one of the best in the NHL. But what exactly is this little thing referring to here? Well, earlier last week, The Athletic posted their best contracts in the NHL list, and Quinn Hughes was not on it. Not because he’s not valuable, but because the contract is so short and because there of course is the possibility that he could leave soon. But let’s dive into the Vancouver Conucks and their contract situation over here. Is there a nicer way that we can put this over here? Uh let’s see. Yeah. No, that’s kind of okay. Uh we’ll zoom out once. There we go. That’s actually a lot better. So, the Vancouver Conucks are ranked as a C++ team with an average positive value of 53%. They have minus $12 million in surplus, which essentially means that if you add up all of the players and their value here, there’s a lot of surplus in the negative that Vancouver is not getting in terms of on ice value. The best contract the Vancouver Conucks have on forwards at least is Kefir Sherwood, who’s making $3.3 million in his model value, but who actually has a $1.5 million contract in reality. This means that there is $1.8 million in surplus value out of Kefir Sherwood. He’s playing like a $3.3 million guy, but he’s making 1.5 million. So, there’s 91.2% 2% positive value for Chief Keef. Going down the list, you’ve got Connor Garland, whom the model actually evaluates so highly at $6.8 million. They have him super high. He’s making $5.9 million in reality. So, there’s $6.3 million in surplus there because I’m assuming the thing is calculating it based off of the years. It’s saying, “Okay, well, Connor Garland has seven years and he’s playing at a rate that’s $900,000 better than his real contract. So, multiply 9 by 7. Is that correct?” Uh, yeah. $6.3 million of surplus value. I mean, the assumption here in the model is that Connor Garland stays at a $6.8 million caliber for 7 years, but still, you can’t really be too definite when projecting into the future like that. Neil Hoglander also has some surplus value. He’s playing like a $4.3 million guy, yet he’s making 3 million bucks by three years. Multiply the $1.3 million in surplus per season by 3 years, and you get 3.9 million in total surplus, as indicated on the right side there. Atu is also providing surplus value. The model sees him as a $ 1.9 million caliber guy, which is pretty good when you consider the fact that he is essentially for all intents and purposes a rookie. Like I know he’s not technically a rookie anymore. He doesn’t qualify for the Calder. He’s already played too many games, but the guy wasn’t a full-time Vancouver Kuck for a while. So him being at 1.9 million in model value, that’s not bad. You then have Jake De Brusk who is outperforming his regular contract by about $200,000. Mark that up, multiply it by six years, and you have a $1.3 million in surplus. But then you go over into the negatives, and this is where you start to see guys really performing poorly, and it’s why Vancouver has such a bad assessment of surplus contract value on the list. in general. Elias Person and Brock Besser are providing so little value for the Vancouver Conucks. Person, he’s playing like a $10.4 million caliber guy, which is kind of mind-boggling to me. Like, wow. The guy had 45 points last year and the model sees him as a $10.4 million dude. He’s making 11.6. So, already there’s some negative value there. The model is saying, “Wow, Person is playing $1.2 million worse than what his real contract is.” Multiply that by seven years and you have a negative $8.3 million in surplus, a C minus contract for EP40 and then Brock Besser is even worse because yes, the disparity is not that bad. I mean, okay, it actually is kind of bad percentage-wise. It’s a lot worse than Person’s. Brock is projected as a $5.6 6 million caliber guy, but he’s making 7.3. So that’s even more surplus value in the negative for Brock. Multiplied by 7 years, he has a D+ contract with an 11.6 million negative surplus value. Man, we’re seeing that number a lot. 11.6 for Elias Person’s regular cap hit and negative 11.6 six for Brock Besser’s surplus cap hit on the Vancouver Conucks roster. That is not good. But of course, we’re all projecting that Person and Besser get better for next year, right? That’s the assumption. We all hope that they’re going to be able to do more because if they don’t, then I think the Vancouver Conucks might actually be screwed. The top guy in Vancouver’s decor by far is Quinn Hughes, who is making $1.9 million in surplus value. I mean, it’s crazy. The guy’s making $7.9 million on his regular contract, but the model has him at 13.8. It has him as one of the most highly paid should be players in the NHL. And multiplied that out by two years, you have yourselves $1.9 million in surplus. He is fantastic. Marcus Pey has some good value as well. They evaluate him as a $6.3 million defenseman. That’s actually pretty good. Phil Heronic actually has negative surplus because his model value is 7.2 million, but he really is making 7.3. So, I think Heronic, it’s really close. You don’t have to be too unconfident in his ability, he is fine. I think as long as you get what you paid for with Heronic, you’re going to be fine there. Tyler Meyers has barely any surplus value. Derek Forward has barely any negative value like Phil Heronic. So the decor is just kind of normalized. But Quinn Hughes being so above and beyond everybody provides a lot of value there. In Net Thatcher Demco, he’s listed as an 8.1 million model value guy, but he’s making 7.6 million. So there is 2 million bucks in surplus there. 500K over four years. Kevin Lankanin is making a lot more than what his model value is projected as. They see him as a $2.2 million guy, which I think is really harsh. Honestly, I think Lankinan played a lot better than a $2.2 million AAV cap hit would imply. So, the $4.5 million, we’ll see whether or not that actually gets justified over the next 5 years, but it’s why his contract is down there at a D+ as well. So, this is really not a good assessment for the Vancouver Conucks. In particular, it’s Elias Patterson, Brock Besser, and Kevin Lankin who are really dragging this team down in terms of surplus value over the next 5 to seven years. And if you go back over to the Canucks subreddit, you’ll read some of the comments over here pretty much saying the same thing. Person and Besser really hurt the Vancouver Conucks in an analytical view. Besser definitely didn’t play like a $7 million forward last season. And Pey being evaluated at 10 million is basing him off of an average between his normal self and this dumpster season. The upside is we know those players can be a lot better, but being overpaid right now while having term will make us look a lot worse than we probably really are. Unless this is the PD and Brock we’re getting the next year or two, then we’re screwed anyway. It’s not just Pey and Bess are struggling. Last year, the Conucks had a lot of depth guys that were considered big value ads like Sudter, Joshua Sprung, and Heinen. Most of them then proceeded to either crap the bed or were moved off of the team. So, that’s the reality of the Vancouver Conucks. You never know what you’re going to get. Last year, they’re ranked fifth, but they had a terrible year. Now, they’re ranked 22nd, and I think there’s a lot more optimism for what the future has in store. So, with that in mind, let me know your thoughts in the comments section below. How do you feel about this negative Conucks update? how they literally dipped 17 spots below in terms of the NHL’s rankings for cap spending by the athletic. Thoughts in the comment section below. I hope you enjoyed this troll 999 and bye.

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We’re going over Vancouver Canucks’s ranking on The Athletic’s NHL Team Spending rankings, and how Elias Pettersson and Brock Boeser really lowered Vancouver’s value.

Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/canucks/comments/1mj90wt/nhl_contract_efficiency_rankings_2025_which_teams/

This video is taking place after the 2025 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2025 Stanley Cup Playoffs.

The 2025 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:

1st) New York Islanders, Matthew Schaefer
2nd) San Jose Sharks, Michael Misa
3rd) Chicago Blackhawks, Anton Frondell
4th) Utah Mammoth, Caleb Desnoyers
5th) Nashville Predators, Brady Martin
6th) Philadelphia Flyers, Porter Martone
7th) Boston Bruins, James Hagens
8th) Seattle Kraken, Jake O’Brien
9th) Buffalo Sabres, Radim Mrtka
10th) Anaheim Ducks, Roger McQueen
11th) Pittsburgh Penguins, Benjamin Kindel
12th) Philadelphia Flyers (from New York Rangers via Vancouver Canucks and Pittsburgh Penguins), Jack Nesbitt
13th) Detroit Red Wings, Carter Bear
14th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Jackson Smith
15th) Vancouver Canucks, Braeden Cootes
16th) New York Islanders (from Calgary Flames via Montreal Canadiens), Victor Eklund
17th) New York Islanders (from Montreal Canadiens), Kashawn Aitcheson
18th) Calgary Flames (from New Jersey Devils), Cole Reschny
19th) St. Louis Blues, Justin Carbonneau
20th) Columbus Blue Jackets (from Minnesota Wild), Pyotr Andreyanov
21st) Nashville Predators (from Ottawa Senators), Cameron Reid
22nd) Pittsburgh Penguins (from Colorado Avalanche via Philadelphia Flyers), Bill Zonnon
23rd) Ottawa Senators (from Tampa Bay Lightning via Nashville Predators), Logan Hensler
24th) Pittsburgh Penguins (from Los Angeles Kings), Will Horcoff
25th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Vaclav Nestrasil
26th) Nashville Predators (from Vegas Golden Knights via San Jose Sharks), Ryker Lee
27th) Washington Capitals, Lynden Lakovic
28th) Winnipeg Jets, Sascha Boumedienne
29th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Carolina Hurricanes), Mason West
30th) San Jose Sharks (from Dallas Stars), Joshua Ravensbergen
31st) Los Angeles Kings (from Edmonton Oilers via Philadelphia Flyers and Pittsburgh Penguins), Henry Brzustewicz
32nd) Calgary Flames (from Florida Panthers), Cullen Potter

This video is also taking place after 2025 NHL Season, and after the 2025 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Florida Panthers defeated the Edmonton Oilers in the Finals.

Elias Pettersson was one of the top NHL prospects at the 2017 NHL Entry Draft.

The 2017 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The Top 30 of the draft went as follows:

1st – New Jersey Devils, Nico Hischier
2nd – Philadelphia Flyers, Nolan Patrick
3rd – Dallas Stars, Miro Heiskanen
4th – Colorado Avalanche, Cale Makar
5th – Vancouver Canucks, Elias Pettersson
6th – Vegas Golden Knights, Cody Glass
7th – New York Rangers (from Arizona Coyotes), Lias Andersson
8th – Buffalo Sabres, Casey Mittelstadt
9th – Detroit Red Wings, Michael Rasmussen
10th – Florida Panthers, Owen Tippett
11th – Los Angeles Kings, Gabriel Vilardi
12th – Carolina Hurricanes, Martin Necas
13th – Vegas Golden Knights (from Winnipeg Jets), Nick Suzuki
14th – Tampa Bay Lightning, Callan Foote
15th – Vegas Golden Knights (from New York Islanders), Erik Brannstrom
16th – Calgary Flames, Juuso Valimaki
17th – Toronto Maple Leafs, Timothy Liljegren
18th – Boston Bruins, Urho Vaakanainen
19th – San Jose Sharks, Josh Norris
20th – St. Louis Blues, Robert Thomas
21st – New York Rangers, Filip Chytil
22nd – Edmonton Oilers, Kailer Yamamoto
23rd – Arizona Coyotes (from Minnesota Wild), Pierre-Olivier Joseph
24th – Winnipeg Jets (from Columbus Blue Jackets via Vegas Golden Knights), Kristian Vesalainen
25th – Montreal Canadiens, Ryan Poehling
26th – Dallas Stars (from Chicago Blackhawks), Jake Oettinger
27th – Philadelphia Flyers (from Washington Capitals via St. Louis Blues), Morgan Frost
28th – Ottawa Senators, Shane Bowers
29th – Chicago Blackhawks (from Anaheim Ducks via Dallas Stars), Henri Jokiharju
30th – Nashville Predators, Eeli Tolvanen

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7 Comments

  1. The lankinen contract projection is spot on. I can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone thinks lankinen is any better than an average nhl backup. The advanced analytics are very clear. He was 50th or lower in goals saved above expected and wins above replacement. He got over paid because of the goaltending uncertainty and his save percentage looked ok on paper because the Canucks d gave up the 3rd least high danger chances in the league. 2-2.5 would be fair value.

  2. Overpaid cap dollars,Teams not as good this year especially your centers Boeser took a stepped backwards, Boeser is the scariest contract and pettersson or Hoglander

  3. A year ago the were in fifth place in spending. A year ago they sucked. So you want to compare to a year ago? All of the useless speculation on this channel. That’s all it is useless speculation. No real reporting.

  4. Quinn Hughes will be I think booed pretty hard in his first game back cause most people believe he will walk away when his contract is up which will be sad our first Norris trophy caliber D-man bye quinn bye bye

  5. The fact that the same report ranked the Canucks 5th last season and then the team went on to disappoint everybody shows that these rankings have serious flaws. Petey's performance gave him a 10+ million dollar value is also quite laughable…

    At the end of the day, this is a Canadian team that struggled mightily last year, making it super unattractive for players to play here. I am not super upset that the team needed to overpay for certain players to sign/re-sign here. My bigger concern is what longer term plans this management has to make this team competitive again.

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