In this episode of Film Study, Luke Kerr-Dineen breaks down the modern chipping technique that Jordan Spieth, and many others, are using on Tour. You’ll learn about spin loft and low point and discover how this move could help you chip better.
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Modern golf instruction is a joke
Isn't that all just common sense; you shouldn't have to think about that. I mean, I think about very little when golfing, it's all just intuitive. I'm not doing advanced mathematics around the green, I'm not considering where my chest is on an iron shot. I don't see why everything has to be so tediously overanalysed.
Nice, this will help me skull my chips more effectively!
So if I just use a British accent 🤔 I can get 51k views too😮
Great video
Good explanation of the low point and how it varies depending on the club and what sort of shot you want to hit.
The main reason golf is so difficult to master, it very variable, so cut down on the variables and you will get better results.
To accomplish you must practice various shots but hardly anyone does this consistently thus they remain at a certain handicap all their lives.
When are we going to give credit to Phil for this video and not spieth. Phil has been saying this for years before spieth was even on tour
2:55 was off the green if it didn’t hit the pin
The low point was watching this video.
This video is incredible bad lol
Most of the clips of golfers hitting down on chips are on uphill lies. On a flat lie, the same swing would not be hitting as much turf in front of the ball.
Haha, telling people to chop turf like this will kill your speed control. It's better to control the speed than anything else. Also try to keep that leading edge up a bit and don't let the club jam into the turf. Pros can dig without the losing percentage of chunking.
A few ‘bigger picture’ things to consider in controlling golf swings:
1) The ‘prime directive’ of the subconscious brain is keeping body mass IN BALANCE over the feet. It will automatically shift body mass on a vector opposite the one the club force is pulling on the hands, which is GOOD, or; it will try to change the vector of the club force with the hands to a new one that does not create a loss of balance which is nearly always not the ideal path for creating an accurate shot and makes try to do it like ‘whack a mole’ where the force moves faster than the reflexes can react.
2) Upper Body, Lower Body, Lead Arm, Trail Arm and Club Head when moving all have separate force vectors the sub-conscious brain must be programmed to sort out by repetition. That is what ‘muscle memory’ really involves on a cause and effect level.
3) The underlying physics of how movement affects force is counter-intuitive but understanding Newton’s Laws covers most of it.
Body mass force vector changing as a reaction to changing lead arm and club mass force vectors is an equal – opposite reaction which went done results in a feeling of increased RESISTANCE but little to no perceptible movement why it is necessary to swing club every way possible and FEEL the difference it mades in RESISTANCE, MOVEMENT and BALANCE to understand the underlying cause and effect. It is what Hogan, who used that approach called “Finding the Secret in the Dirt” that by the way is a hint you should use the club head like the head of axe or sledge hammer not a broom.
The “Secret” in Hogan’s Waggle is that it does HAMMER the club head down using momentum around the hand + acceleration but doing it a way the force vector is pointing at the ground at spots BETWEEN THE FEET / vvvv not <—— / ——> backwards and forwards. Which do you think will make it easier for the SUBCONSCIOUS BRAIN to maintain balance to produce consistently accurate ball striking.
4) One of the least understood and taught cause and effects in the swing is how SIDE BEND affects mass movement, balance and club path because its like patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time. But if you just stand in front of a mirror holding a golf club and side bend ) ( and observe how that affects RESISTANCE, MOVEMENT, and BALANCE you will better understand how and when to use in the golf swing to control club path and even face angle.
Every time I let the dog out in the yard I bring and swing my old PING EYE 2 7i every possible way, whack weed with it and try to hit his squeaky ball exactly 30 ft across the yard dead straight with nothing but a hammer action waggle. When I play every Wed. my ball striking is much much better 😊
The discussion totally misses the reason why you would move low point forward for different shots. The chip shot analyzed was an extreme descending shot because he was into the grain and uphill. It is a move to avoid grabbing the grass and losing control… Low point is a tool, and if you don't know why you are changing the low point, you aren't going to get any benefit out of it.
👍 if you want them to stop using this guy to narrate videos.
This video should have also mentioned their grips and opening / squaring the face at address. Huge factors for these shots and they were left out…
The club doesn't hit the ground then the ball, it's the other way around.
Not sure i really heard the other side of the argument in this vid, but i wholeheartedly agree that a steeper chip is much easier to pull off than a shallow chip. I've found this new-age effort by guys pushing the effort to "use the bounce" on the club as both a very effective way to get spin on the ball, and also a VERY difficult way to achieve consistency.
The guys like Spieth that go into it steeply are just doing what any animal in nature does — conservation of energy to improve efficiency. The effort and time it takes to get good at executing a shallow angle of attack where the bounce of the club doesn't quite dig into the ground is just exceedingly difficult for some people to repeat. I assume others can get themselves timed up more easily, but they're likely in the minority. But going into it steeply ain't so tough at all. Just my humble opinion.
The Spieth example shouldn't be taken too literally. He's on a sidehill lie with his left side higher. Any player would move the ball back and hands forward for this shot to avoid the chunk
Waste of time watching this video
Horses for courses , if you dont control your low point in golf your screwed whatever , however you do it .
Yes its more important in a finesse shot than a full shot because the miss is so much more obvious , you cannot define what is and what isnt a good chipping technique as in my experience there all different .
And all waiting to catch out the unwary or timid .
Practice makes perfect …
I have a question. When I chip I want the ball to run out to the hole (not a lot of spin) and setup with few "steepeners" like Sean Foley's technique. This advice seems geared towards pitch shots or check shots if you're short sided. Did I miss something?
I very much doubt this will help anyone. Just be loads of high handicaps stacking their left side sticking the club in the ground will be the result. Poor examples to pick, uphill probably into the grain, not that many on tour do it like Speith.
People getting that heated over chipping is insane stuff. I love Golf but come on. Even the pros aren’t that bothered by the theories of chipping.
I think it’s a sliding scale. The worse you are the better you are taking the skill out of it and just making sure you set up a safe two putt. The better you get the more up and downs you need so you need to increase risk to improve results.
I’m about halfway inbetween now, sometimes I’m just wanting to ensure a two putt, others I will get steeper and go for the risky but better method.
So Mayo was right.
Phil the Thrill has been right for decades.
Why is there a debate. We have technology to check numbers.
If you are J. S.
Short Game is not long game!
There are a lot of setups in shortgame and they are all dependent on the position of the ball. There is no one-size-fits-all solution.
That's old-school chipping.
The modern game in chipping is with bounce. The club first touches the ground and then the ball. Look at Dan Grieve. Modern chipping.
Great video! Your going to have 10-20 HCs stuffing their wedges into the ground like crazy 😂😂😂. Stay shallow like short game chief teaches with rotation.
There’s no better chipper or pitcher in the game than Phil Mickleson. He’s an artist around the greens
Jordan has a great short game but his technique is way different than the typical pro.
Does someone have the link to the video snip the is shown at the beginning of this video. I remember watching it (what feels like a few years ago) before there was such a heated chipping battle, would love to rewatch it again. The panel discussion at some golf seminar…
Question is whether we duffers have more margin of error swinging shallow or steep. I don't think we'd do better playing blades on our irons.
Golf is the most individualized game there is, and there's really no right or wrong way for any player. Some players have a really weak grip and bowed wrist and some players have a strong grip and don't bow. Same with with chipping. Just take all the information and figure out what works best for you, that's all you can do. Thank you very much.
The key to great chipping is setting your flying wedges and holding them through impact.
Got the PING ChipR for this year and it’s transformed my short game. I’ve used a 64, still have a 62, 58, 54, etc. but this little club works 75% of the time. Club is upright as a putter, has 9 to 8 iron loft. Take your stance like a putter and swing it like a putter. Like you’re cheating. AND yes your low point is way past the ball naturally.
This is basically Phil Mickelsons Chipping 101 – great video, highly recommended
At the end of the day, the lie and the condition of the turf is what is most important when it comes to chipping.
Amateur weekend golfers could be taking on massive risk by trying to chip the ball fat and end up chunking too much turf and not getting enough solid contact.
If you have an uphill lie, however, this is mostly unavoidable, but you still need to make sure you are not hitting the turf too far behind the ball.
The wetter the conditions, the higher the chances go up that one will hit fat chunks with wedges due to the sharper leading edge of the club face digging into soft ground.
Same goes for tight lies where there is very short grass underneath the ball.
The bounce on the bottom sole of the wedge becomes extremely important in these kinds of conditions.
The "low point" is important to get right, but the lie is what is most important to first assess and understand before deciding on how to play the chip or pitch shot.
One may actually have less options on how to play the shot depending on the lie, turf and prevailing conditions.
Spieth is not chipping in your example of a high "chip." He's clearly pitching it.
This seemed like a very serious documentary. We are still having fun, right?
keep the club just a quarter of an inch off the ground behind the ball and you will make great strike if you start with club on the ground it will return to the ground
Golden! Thank you 🙏❤️
My irons are garbage but I try to mimic Spieth around the greens to hang with my buddies