Does JJ Peterka Want Out of Buffalo? | The Jeremy and Joe Show

Does JJ Peterka Want Out of Buffalo? | The Jeremy and Joe Show

i have uh said on this podcast and in my radio interviews several times now that the Sabres have indicated that they do not want to trade JJ Purka their answer has changed they are at least now listening on it and I think that’s recent i think it’s the reality of the situation people know Purka is unhappy and it’s believed he would like to go somewhere else and I just think that reality is sinking in a bit i think the Sabres realize they have to at least look into it and I think in the last little bit it’s gone from we don’t want to do it and we’re not doing it to we don’t want to do it but we at least have to look into it i think it’s kind of if you’re serious offer us something serious and we’ll look at it elliot Freriedman welcome to mid to late June it’s the time of year where the Sabres have to maybe confront players wanting to go so JJ Purka nothing probably happens until the final is over which game six in that series is going to be tomorrow night mhm and Florida can win the cup and then we’re to the offseason the draft comes up kind of quick it’s one thing about the NHL the season ends and the draft is a couple days later so yeah we could see Purka gone in do I want to say a week Joe the draft is in 11 days round one it really I mean that day maybe him getting out of the draft without what i don’t know it It depends how much the Sabres want to treat this situation differently than they’ve treated other situations similarly in the past and it’s been a minute right like when’s the last time a star player purka graduating him to a star player might be a little but he’s a very good young player very good young player someone you might project will be like he’ll make an all-star team his point his point totals for his career 325068 like you ahead and chart that up up no does he does he level off at it’s 68 points in 77 games you know right he’s He might not be a perfect player but he’s a good young player he’s an exciting player he’s JJ the Turkey in our house and that will be a sad day if JJ the Turkey is not on the Savers but I told you back in November that I had heard Purka might not be a long-term guy he might not be one of their guys and I think that was because they knew this was coming that he’s not happy here he wants to leave and yesterday I saw a lot of the reaction online if you want to give us yours 8030550 i saw a lot of the reaction that was listen we should I get out the flowchart we’ve done this a thousand times player is unhappy oh really well let me tell you about this player he’s not even that good who does he think he is he’s on some loser team and around and round we go yep and for I think a good chunk of the fan base a lot of the fans they are done blaming any player for that feeling because the thing I would say about it Purka he doesn’t have some sort of Reinhardt situation where they don’t value him and didn’t feel like paying him or extending him my guess is the Sabres would he doesn’t have an EL situation where he signs a eight-year extension he’s the captain he gets blamed for everything that goes wrong he has a medical dispute with the team like there’s no publicly bad blood this is just guy you drafted and developed well wants to take control of his own career and say I don’t want to sign here long term and he has the power to sign an offer sheet if he wants to he can tell the team like I just don’t want to do this thanks this has been great but I’d like to get out of here i don’t want to be here and you know you could get mad at a player or you could do the kind of thing where you say like what if that was you what if that what if that’s you or me right you only you get drafted to a team that you don’t pick and if you come here you might think I’m not going to win there i’m not I’m going to be stuck out of the playoffs and one of the reasons you might think that is because the guy that Yeah you you watch the GM stay for a long time and keep missing and think why would I think this is a place where I can get to the level of the games I’m watching this week mhm why would I ever think it would happen here you’ve got some players that will sign up for it for six and seven and eight year deals and you’d have some that would say like “No thanks.” Yeah is I wonder though if fans will take into account that he really hasn’t been here very long this is not Thompson or Dalene wanting out the sim in a similar way that Eel and Reinhardt were like ready to go after seven years of this eight years of this like it’s a much quicker timeline purka’s been here for three three years and he’s ready to hit the ejector seat and if he’s felt something along those lines for like this didn’t just arrive on him now like this is a feeling that he’s had maybe for a little bit then that could lead you to well I wonder if it’s more about the city than it is more about the team if that’s if that’s a part of this because then that is a little different I think than like Eel and Reinhardt when they want out i never took that as anything to do with not wanting to be in Buffalo i took that as they just were sick of losing and I don’t I don’t know if that’s what Purka’s problem is he might just not like like the area not like the the city right he might want a different life right and the other difference between Purka and those guys maybe not Eel because Eichel had a lot of years left on that contract but Reinhardt was going to be a UFA in 12 months right purka cannot become an unrestricted free agency until July 1st of 2029 like the Sabres have control his control of him for a long time so for him to be willing to make it tense at all I think would show you how much he really would want would want to go right like cuz he would have that conversation with his agent it’s like if we go down this road like this could be tough this could be uncomfortable for a while because you’re not coming up on free agency you’re 23 you got a long way to go until you can get to that or before you can even use that as a bit of leverage so I don’t know like I I don’t know how the fans will react to him wanting out versus the the former those former stories of this wanting out and how much the Sabres will want to play hard ball because they’ve played hard ball in the past with Jack and do they regret it it’s a good question like what do they feel do they feel there’s made it ugly a a reputation point here a reputation piece and while Purka is the latest I mean he’s certainly not the first as you just laid out right and he probably won’t be the last there was the reporting again that got from Paul Besonette and he walked it back cuz that would that was from Freriedman that Dene went in there to talk to them about what the plan was when they make the Cousins trade and that was kind of smoothed over no he’s not saying he wants to leave you’ve got Alex Tuck face of the rebuild under Kevin Adams saying “I haven’t talked about it with my wife yet about the idea of an extension.” Like if Tuck wants to go and it’s to me like the whole thing about Kevin Adams time here i mean he’s made some nice trades like Brian Kosio came on and said “I’ve liked some of the trades.” really it might be the inaction that’s a problem but you’ve got Purka and Bum and the ninth pick and some prospects that you could try to turn into something and try to move forward and we already know Kevin M is going to keep the job but to me the the one of the biggest you know zoom out problems here is that when he got the job and then trade a jacket was guys that want to be here and it’s a you know whether it’s a privilege or an honor to wear a Buffalo Sabres uniform and all this the Sabres kind of talked to big game and sent out a guy that didn’t want to be here anymore and you start to look at the context and it’s like well that’s because the team loses all the time the team doesn’t y the team doesn’t seem to have a whole handle on building towards a winner and it’s all about these picks and prospects and finally one of the best picks prospects you’ve had makes it to this moment and says like I want out too i I don’t want to be here so man what what are you supposed to do if you’re Kevin Adams you supposed to play hard ball i don’t think so because what is hard ball is just what like we’re not going to trade you here’s here’s a qualifying offer if you won’t take a bigger deal here’s a qualifying offer right like or like hey okay you don’t want to sign a long-term deal here here’s a two-year deal like come play come play like hey we we did we did on your behalf because like out of respect for you we listened we listened to teams and they were all trying to lowball us because they think that we have to move you uh you have four years of contract left you know get in the locker room sign your 2-year deal and come play we’re not going to make you sign an 8-year contract like that’s what that’s what 8year that’s what hard ball to me would be is you’re 23 you just got here like you’re a good player but you just got here we’re not letting you go yet so what do you want to do you want to go play in Germany like you want to go down that route like how bad do you want to make this they could try to put the ball back in his court and really test him but I I even wonder is he good enough to warrant that because he’s a very good player i remember thinking when all the surgery stuff and saying when all the surgery stuff with Michael was going down just bring him back just bring it’s going to be uncomfortable it’s going to be awkward maybe it obviously it had gone down a road where they all felt like that was impossible but I I thought just just put him on the ice he’s got 5 years of contract left he’s not going to retire let him have that one was different though because it was for me let him have his surgery right let him have his surgery and then what because that was being used as the catalyst for him to get out of there even though he’d asked for a trade before that but still but get rid of the catalyst make it make it more direct do you want to do you want actually you’re going to leave or you’re going to you’re going to let you get the surgery and then you’re going to say after that no I’m not I’m still never playing for you again or are you going to come back on the ice for us because then like that’s a superstar player I wanted to explore all avenues to him remaining in Buffalo but Turka is really good i don’t know that I’m I would have the same attitude of though like I I can’t let this guy go at at all at any cost well the the the fly in the ointment about playing hard ball is an offer sheet he can sign with another team and you have to make the decision then are we going to give him the contract that this team just signed him to or are we going to take the compensation because then you have him you have him you have him but he’s you know you know he’s not happy with that right and man what is that like what happens you could do it and then like think “Well we’re gonna we’re going to trade him eventually.” But imagine you do that like Purka signs a seven-year deal or a six-year deal with the New York Rangers or whoever and then the Sabres match it like all right well what do we have here now uh now we have you for seven years and we have you under contract and we know you don’t want to be here well I mean that’s not that’s not a great environment but No that’s not it’s definitely not a great environment and it’s not I mean it’s not something the Sabres would want to do you you again you don’t want guys that are not not like they’re not on board it’s not like it’s never happened though like Jonathan Drew once wrote a letter to the Tampa Bay Lightning saying “I will never play for you again.” And then he played for them again and he was like 20 he was like 20 when that happened um and he ended up coming back and had a at least one good season I think with them after that happened so there’s some precedent for it but I mean you know they’re they’re also not the Tampa Bay Lightning no that’s right the Sabres are not the Tampa Bay Lightning if I need that to be said 8030550 our phone number if you want to throw thought our way on this uh Mike in Pennsylvania hey Mike good morning hey guys good morning um so I got a question for you guys i always listen to you guys religiously about the Buffalo Bills and I don’t even live in Buffalo and it’s a great source to to get Bills information and I think you guys are fantastic and then a lot of the stuff bleeds over from the Sabres and I just hear all this dysfunctionality and from a from an organizational standpoint and they’re owned by the same person why the difference and and I I don’t want the Josh Allen to be the answer and that changed everything because I think the culture was good before Allen got there i think the Bills are just better that Allen’s there but why the dysfunctionality from the Sabres why don’t they just watch what the Bills do and then kind of do that i’m a little confused on that and I feel bad for the people in Buffalo because they love their hockey and and and this is the type of product and drama that they’re getting from what I think should be somewhat ran kind of similar to the Buffalo Bills do you guys agree or why why is this but what would you consider like copy the copycatting of it they’ve actually talked about doing things that they’ve learned from the Bills but like what what specifically are you looking for them to do like the money part of it well no i mean just winning in general but you know as far as getting a culture that you know people want to come to they don’t want to leave like they they want to thrive there i think the money’s relevant and people do look at money as a factor i’d be lying if I said no but at the same point if the culture is good you know train people good enough that they don’t want to leave and pay them okay i I feel I feel like the money’s right or similar in the in the stratosphere people are going to stay athletes will stay they won’t leave they won’t It’s like a training facility to me and again I’m not a Sabres fan i just kind of hear what you guys always talk about it It almost seems like they’re the joke of the NHL it really does they have the longest drought i mean they are yeah there’s There’s They are yeah i mean they’re in the list how how you build that culture without any any any of the winning is is nearly impossible i think this is one of those times like talking about building the culture is hollow there’s not that’s that’s you got to win yeah you got to win you have to win and how do you how do you build what what is the culture of the Buffalo Sabers versus the Bills the Bills culture is knocking on the doorstep you have the league’s best player you have good players around him but you have the league’s you have an amazing fan base you have an amazing atmosphere you have the league’s best player and you’re competitive like that’s that that that’s what you have that’s your culture josh Allen’s your culture josh Allen left what would happen to your culture you’d have a good coach a good GM maybe that can make other things work but you don’t have Josh Allen anymore like Josh Allen’s a lot of your culture no I mean the best I could do for this like that you know what would what would an an average player maybe think of like what what is the Buffalo Sabres culture like the worst case scenario they could think is uh that that’s a bunch of kids that don’t know what the hell they’re doing right like that locker room is a bunch of kids don’t know what the hell they’re doing but under Gronado they were kids coming coming up i don’t know if that’s still true of them like a couple years ago maybe that would have sounded fair but I I don’t know about right now no I’d say the and like what’s different what one thing that is different is of course like in football you know one player affects the everything so greatly you get the right quarterback it’s hard to be bad um and for the not not it’s not to take anything away from the Bills just you really have like an it it should never be over it could never be overstated how big of an impact Allen has like Ellen is the reason they are successful the number one reason they’re successful and number two and three and four for the for the Savers they don’t spend to the cap you you that’s it they save money they don’t spend at the cap they don’t invest in ways that other teams do whether that’s hiring GMs and you know Kalinan coming in this year is a is a nice little piece here I guess but it’s just I don’t know i I don’t think it should be all that surprising why the two teams can be different one team prints money the other team loses money i don’t know if this is as much of a hockey thing as it is is a football thing but what do what happens in sports sometimes when Hey guy wants to be traded guy wants out uh oh oh should he get traded here should he get trad Oh wait he’s staying for a record amount of money miles Garrett this summer right that’s one way that you know sometimes a trade rumor gets gets weaponized but for you to keep the guy usually it ends up being the money and I wonder about the Sabres on that like could how much could they dispel all of the oh he wants to be traded by uh here’s $9.5 million but but nobody but I would never believe that they would be willing to do that well go I’d be skeptical they want to pay anybody that amount of money unless the guy’s like a superstar go back to Matthew Fairburn’s piece about Kevin Adams where in there he’s quoting other scouts and GMs and hockey people pointing out that it seems like you know running things by the owner on a level where you’re trading a player for a fourth round pick is like and if that’s exactly what it was about like it was about a Yoki Haru trade and how scouts would view that how how players would view that I mean the Sabres don’t it doesn’t have to be bad forever but in the case of Purka wanting to go I I I almost would say if you’re a good team a player might want to leave and that’s okay too why does Bo Byron want to leave cuz he wants a bigger role and he doesn’t see it here he might not be personal about the city he might just want to leave right and if you think about the Bills before Allen got here like here here’s a point antonio Brown right the Bills trade for Antonio Brown for 5 minutes and then he doesn’t want to come here and Bean goes to the podium talking about how you know he doesn’t know that this area these people and I thought like well this is pre Josh Allen i can remember saying this it’s it’s your job the GM it’s your job to change what players think of this place and Bean has done that through drafting Josh Allen paying contracts building a winner it’s the GM’s job to make a place desirable and you’re still not going to get every player to want to play for you in connecting to that that’s what happened with Diggs wasn’t it mhm diggs not into this right now in the in the fall of 2019 when the season was ongoing and then by the time the spring rolled around he was convinced like “Okay yeah I do want to go there.” And what changed his mind watching Josh Allen jump over dudes go to the playoffs and think like “Okay Allen changed his mind.” So you got to change you got you got to have something that changes their minds here because it it will just keep going right like it could be Purka now and it could be Tuck tomorrow and it could be Byum the next day and then maybe two years will go by and then there will be three new guys three other guys that are all pretty good that are going to go “Yeah I just I can’t do this anymore.” You got the you just they just even if it’s a lucky season that’s why I I it’s still offensive to me they didn’t respect the value of making it two years ago they didn’t they didn’t respect the value of making the playoffs two years ago and I wonder I always wonder how different certain things would be had they had they done that even if they had won when they got there just if they had got in the one time

Jeremy and Joe discuss the reports surrounding Sabres F JJ Peterka being on the trade block. The guys start off by wondering how quickly a move like this could be made as the NHL draft is fast approaching. They consider the reasoning behind Peterka’s desire to be moved out of Buffalo, and highlight that there is a major difference between this and some past Sabres demanding trades. They explain how it sounds as if Peterka’s biggest issue is wanting to live in a bigger city, instead of frustration over losing like the Sabres have seen in the past. They compare Peterka’s situation to some of the other high profile players that have been shipped out of Buffalo in the recent past like Sam Reinhart and Jack Eichel. Then the guys get a call from a fan who doesn’t understand why the Sabres seem to be such a mess while the Bills under the same ownership are a massive success. This launches the guys into a discussion around where this all ends and how the Sabres can fix the culture in Buffalo

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