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Join the DLLS Stars Podcast with Craig Ludwig, Sam Nestler, Owen Newkirk and producer John Andersen as they discuss the big story of the day – a potentially crucial rift between starting goalie Jake Oettinger and head coach Pete DeBoer after a dramatic first period benching in Game 5 as the Dallas Stars were eliminated by the Edmonton Oilers in the 2025 Western Conference Final. The guys will also replay captain Jamie Benn’s post game comments about his future, debate the pros/cons of sending Alexander Petrovic and/or Lian Bichsel down to the AHL’s Texas Stars (who are in the Conference Final of the Calder Cup Playoffs) and have a conversation about Florida Panthers head coach Paul Maurice’s comments about coaches being in the handshake line at the end of a Stanley Cup Playoff series.
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00:00 – Intro
03:40 – Pete DeBoer & Jake Oettinger
17:40 – Jamie Benn on Oettinger benching
20:44 – Tom Gaglardi says DeBoer is not getting fired
33:45 – Benn’s future
51:20 – Oilers TOUCHED the Clarence Campbell Bowl
53:18 – Should Lian Bichsel, Alexander Petrovic join Texas Stars playoff run?
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40 Comments
Otter apologists are up in arms, but the reality is he got outplayed by Skinner two years in a row and Adin Hill. He needed to be called out, if he can't handle it maybe he's not the goalie we think he is.
DeBoer and Benn have to be gone. Marchment too. How you gonna take stupid dirty penalties but do nothing when someone injures your guy, when that sort of thing would be permissible? Get off my team.
There’s the west and Then there is The Oilers…. They are just a class above every one else.
They looked good during the season… but the closer they are getting to the cup, they have more gears.
I love that they got Rantanen, but I wanted O'Reilly and we could of got him AND rantanen. I would of also tried to target another big good defenseman and give up bourque for it like Macavoy or Slavin. We basically want to build a team of Draisatyl or Hymans. Skill, big, play both sides of the puck well
The Stars should give David Carle a phone call.
I don't know that bringing in a gritty (pushback) player is the answer. (At least not right away.) Dumba and Lybushkin were brought in for that reason. There's something going on within this team that is killing gritty play. Until that issue is solved, I don't think were going to see gritty play. The Stars occasionally play a little gritty, but not consistently.
We need a couple more good Defensive players……I guess lundquist will be back but we need one or two more good defenders.
I don't want to compare Benn to Marchment because Jamie has 1000% more character and grit but when Benn isn't scoring he can sometimes be a liability (with penalties). Marchment is a liability by default and can sometimes score to overcome it. I hope Benn resigns for less than what he's worth because I still think he can help this team win a cup.
Benn needs to go…shake up the leadership a bit and get some more heavy D men.
Make Wyatt the captain, and be done with Jamie.
Pete truly needs to take some accountability for these losses. He also said this team was better on paper compared to the last two seasons and that did not have to be said either in my opinion.
If they can keep a bit of there depth. Get some speed please, and some defensive men that don’t look like lost donkeys. Fire DEBOER. And give David Carle a call 📞
Mikko said that "we didn't help Jake, it was not his fault"
Perhaps this motivates Jake even more but the comments by his coach were unacceptable….it's a team game!!!! A team game that includes coaching!
I thought I heard somewhere Pete told the team not do anything to the Oilers. Something like "we are not that kind of team." My question is this "is there a rip between the team and Pete?"
In oettingers' defence, blaming him for losing when you leave the front of the net wide open is bull. There has to be defence.
PDB has an odd history with goalies also. There were 2 big scandals at vegas wit Fluery (who is HOF and universally loved) and Lehner who had some mental health issues. He wears out his welcome quickly at the 4 previous stops. PBD was the coach for Vegas's only season they did not make the playoffs.
Sorry. Deboer deseves it. After game 2 he should of quelled the cheap shots by both teams. He was rattled. Instead he gave the "if it was mcdavid" and put fuel on the fire. And hinz, connor brown and Hyman all got hurt. He should of took the high road. He knew he was in trouble after game 2.
I lost a lot of respect for him
@8:45. clowns? Nurse get cross checked in the back and Nurse slashes him. Looked like a pretty normal playoff type play to most everyone. Clowns??
Ludwig is a clown. He probably was happy when Hyman got interfered with by Duchene. Or when Perry got cross checked in the back. Or when the player that left his feet to hit Brown and injure him. Gimme a break
Benn is has gotten soft. Look at the past 2 series against Oilers. Show me a play where he was physical.
Boys. This team will never win a cup under DeBoer. He is too soft. His whole career.
Nobody reads the comments, so I am going to say Dallas will not win a cup with DeBoer…. Ever. He’s quick to point out other people’s shortcomings, but does he think about his conference finals failures? He was the common denominator.
If it’s even possible I would trade Harley Johnston and Robo for Brady tkachuck
Sample size comment pisses me off. What if Jake was saying “deBoer is only 3 out of 11 against EDM the last two years and that’s a pretty good sample size”….just not the greatest way to have your teams back.
Sam go to Clearwater Beach and hit crystal river
Three sister springs
You cannot roll same team and expect to win
Benn should retire
The blame doesn't ultimately rest with either of these 2, but both DeBoer and Benn have to go. After 3 straight offensive collapses in the WCF you cannot run back the same leadership and expect to get back again. It won't work.
This group need massive changes in philosophy, leadership, and depth pieces. They have too many chef's in the kitchen and not enough bus boys.
Benn is just washed. He can't produce in the playoffs anymore. Name a single Cup winning team in history that had a washed up captain that was a 4th line nothing and couldn't produce in the playoffs? It doesn't happen. The captain needs to lead on the ice. Father time has run down Benn and it's time to make a change there.
DeBoer and his staff have a conference final ceiling and it gets worse every season. Need the change just to try to get a group to break through that. Mentally they won't be able to do it under DeBoer. They need a philosophy change overall.
Oilers fan here, what your coach said about Jake, one of the greatest goalies in the NHL is unforgivable. Your offence sucked, your defence swallowed. So lets bench Jake. Pathetic
Jim Nill has a decision to make.
This incident can' t be solved without the decision that DeBoer has to go. The sooner the better.
The fact is that Otty was the not thr only reason that Stars Lost 6 out of 7 for Oil. There is the team in front of him who is accountable for this result.
DeBoer let his emotions to take over, and he will loose his job because of that reaction.
What made it worse, that in press confetence he throwed his no 1 goalie under the bus publicly.
That was the last nail into his coffin as Stars head coach.
I need a public apology from Pete or he needs to be gone. Idk how you allow that to go unpunished if you’re Nill or Gaglardi.
Need to trade Roope Hintz for Brady Tkachuk ! No matter what it takes
Otter needs to man up.
Hahahahahahahaha lol I’m so happy I’m an Avs fan!!! I get to think about how good it feels to win a cup!!! Nothing makes me happier then seeing the stars fail miserably 😂
Being a 'great' goalie is winning when it counts…..that alone shows Skinner is better than Oettinger…plain and simple…..two years ongoing.
Bush League Bischel is already a very dirty player.
Dallas fans seem to be blind to the fact that Hintz cross checked Nurse in the back! Then Nurse responded as any player should.
Plus, you think Nurse in concerned about anyone on Dallas going after him? lololol
PDB could've finished his last year as head coach BEFORE he said those things about Otter. But now, he has to go
Ridiculous, Deboer is a good regular season coach, but history shows that come playoff time, he cant do it……
Trade the goalie and Mikko Rantanen they let the Coach down the team and the city of Dallas 😢😢😢
Is this a team of women? Jesus Chrfist. Man up, own your own failures, and get over it. These are professional men. Act like it!