Ban the kicks from being goals! All of them!
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Pretty simple J1Q, your thoughts on the quarter-century team?
Thought the omissions of EK65 and Anze Kopitar were pretty egregious oversights. Not saying someone like Chara or Matthews don't deserve recognition, but no Kucherov, Keith, Doughty, Quick, or Toews either was strange.
The skate goal has ruined many-a playoff run. I don't see them changing the rule.
Some nuance is required for football (soccer) analogues. You can't score by throwing the ball into the goal, this is a fact. Touching it with the hand is illegal, but for the goalie (provided he's in his 18yd box and some other rules). HOWEVER: if ANY player touches a thrown ball on goal and it goes in, that counts.
So.. by analogy.. if a player kicks the puck to the net, or redirects it with the skate blade, but the goalie gets a mit on it on its way in, by football rules that would count.
In field hockey (sadly the only popular hockey in my country) ANY touch by a player's foot to the ball and possession is immediately ceded to the opposing team. Not practical for ice hockey as a rule.
I could get on board with any goals off attacking team's skates not counting. Provided no other player touched it (not counting the goalie trying to make a save).
There is some evidence of football players scoring goals with their hands though. Most infamously a goal in the 1986 world cup final (the single most important event in football). Diego Maradona scored 1-0 with a hands goal. Maradona would claim he scored with his head for years. The goalie coming to punch the ball clear could legally use his hands AND stood 8 inches taller. "The Hand of God" he said, fooling no one outside of Argentina! 😂
If this rule was in effect in 1991, the Devils would've tied the Penguins in Game 6 and possibly stopped the Cup run.
I was listening to the Winnipeg radio broadcast in the car and they nearly made it all the way through Free Bird deliberating on this and still didn't make the right call to overturn it!
spot on. i cant stand the debate over angled or kicking motion
Good goal
Solution in search of a problem. Banning all goals just because of a deflection off a skate is just wrong. It’s playoff hockey & that’s how a lot of games end. If you are going to do this, how about we ban goalies from using the butterfly?
Its either all or nothing. No goal for any contact with the foot. Don't think it will ever happen, but this is why we have video replay. Good topic
If we take the angled skate away can we make the net the bigger size it used to be? We wanna see goals
All that replay and it still needs refined, but who will do it. It's worth an extra look even after the fact. After all what's the stick for. Thank you DK
Yeah, they got that one wrong. I don't want to lose the ability for a scorer to lose the ability to gather the puck with a skate to the stick. Nor do I want to lose those crazy dinks from behind the net.
Seems to me someone could embed a little chip or something in the puck to know when it's hit or crosses the line so the NHL can figure it out easier.
What if someone attempts to trap the puck with their skate to the stick and it bounces off the boot in the net? We'll count that as no goal? But if it hits their stick on the way in, then it is a goal? What it is hits another persons stick on the way in? If angling skates is no longer legal, can players angle their leg pads or bodies to get a favorable deflection toward the net.
It's not that I am for the use of skates to score it's just that I don't want game play to be stopped repeatedly to determine if something is a good goal or not. Rules need to be easily enforceable by the refs without reliance on any special video/electronic equipment or the bums in Toronto.
Definitely keep the no kicking motion directly in the net
Otherwise: 1) If you kick the puck to the goal so that it bounces off an player's stick, body, or equipment, no goal? 2) If you angle your skates so that the puck goes toward the net and your stick is not in a scoring position, no goal? However, how enforceable are these in real time?
It wouldnt have been a goal if Hellebuyck didnt go to make a play on it ad put it in his own net. I think it was the right call honestly
Interesting episode DK. But what about all the garbage goals where the puck just goes randomly off all kinds of different body parts from either side and finds its way into the net. What about Mike Matheson who had a propensity to kick the puck into our goal?? ha. That's because players just swarm the crease and you also have the defenders in the crease..it's mayhem, and thats why all those lucky goals happen. I propose they make the blue paint area larger and the net a little larger as well. More flashy saves without the goalie being run over and more goals being scored w. the larger net.
in all my years of watching hockey that was the subtelist kicking motion Ive ever seen ! if I was going to change anything it would be no goals when any opposing players are in the blue paint at all the goalie must have the opportunity to play the position ! I was sure that one would be a goal last night !
DK salty about the game lol, Go Stars Go!