Outstanding! By the logic of some of those replies, if the wings were good and made the playoffs, it would have been because of Ken Holland right? Do you think they would be giving him credit if that happened? š NOT!
I mean both things can be true, if he was not Stevie he'd be fired yes. This team also is much better than when he got them also true, the down years were THAT BAD. His pro scouting side as a GM has been at best questionable with assest management (shiping out Walman with a 2nd or 3rd pick I forget which), and who is the best FA hes gotten long term? Now I will say his amateur scouting is pretty good and we are now starting to see the return on that thankfully with Edvinsson, Seider, Raymond, Kasper, and Johansson looking pretty good in their rookie years IMO. Then you got Mazur, Danielsson, maybe ASP looking at maybe guys next year that take that next step up potentially. Cossa gets starts I imagine next year with Talbot and Mrazek being guys you start the year with. Now if he really wants to swing for the fences this offseason on a Marner type this offseason the money is there in the capspace I believe but yeah little evidence of that in the past obviously. I think he has to launch Holl and Tarasenko out of a cannon this offseason with buyouts atleast Senko and make Holl ride pine as a 6th or AHL guy as well absolute disaster contracts (thankfully not long term though).
So many dumbasses, itās unreal they cannot separate Yzerman the fantastic hockey player from Yzerman the questionable GM.
As good as the draft picks are, the fact of the matter is that in the seven years of his draft a whopping FOUR players have made the jump since then, other teams are playing theyāre young guys and seeing promising results.
The Wings organization over ripens the prospects and then the Yzergoofs thump their chest about how deep it is in comparison to the rest of the league willfully ignoring those other teams young players have already graduated and are contributing to the team already or are just AHL fodder, theyāre playing this game where āthe futureā is something completely undefined and thus can be manipulated to suit their needs, if the year 2035 came up and the Wings finally made it, they can thump their chest and mock the doomers for doubting, meanwhile others have lost interest and invested in the actual winning teams in Detroit.
I can say Iām genuinely terrified of this offseason because if itās like the others weāll be signing more older bums who arenāt good for shit and still wonāt play the young talent that is hyped to no end while we still wait to see if theyāre actually any good.
Apparently, shifting from the west to the east has not worked out. The thought of firing Stevie Y. is unfathomable to me. Heās too big in this town, to fire him, (at this point). Iām under the impression ownership is cheap, (letting go of Walman)?
Steveās whole plan is ālets just suck until the kids are readyā and itās not good enough. Heās basically Al Avila at this point, drafted some good players but also signed some horrific contracts.
The team is soft. They do not have a number one goalie and maybe 5 players that could make a different squad. Bring up the youth and take your lumps. Cossa needs to be in net. They need a coach that will add some fortitude to this team.
Yzerman was handcuffed this past offseason with the signings of Raymond and Seider, which also caused him to have to let go of several key players that otherwise probably would have been retained, like Perron and Ghost. I think the team took about 2 steps forward last season and one step backward this season but I also think that's the hockey world in general in the cap age. I think overall the fanbase is understandably impatient right now and yes being who Yzerman is and was as a Detroit sports legend, we should give him a little more leeway. With that being said, id say that we should all suck this up and give him one more season, and if the playoffs are a bust again then it's sayonara Stevie.
Mike the āYou Donāt Know Hockeyā is the favorite argument of āI canāt argue your point, so Iāll just pretend your too stupid to argue withā tactic. These idiots know full well this isnāt going good and if they donāt try to sell you on āthe futureā then they have absolutely nothing to lean on.
They canāt point to the current roster and claim success since the roster as it is canāt get out of the way of bad eastern conference with four good young players, a beaten up captain, a streaky shooter, and a past his prime HoF. Anyone else Yzerman has brought on has been mid to ass and the one or two good FA signing in Ghost and Walman he let walk and in Walman case gave away for nothing only to bring in Justin Holl and Gustafson.
This rebuild has been a complete disaster thus far and unfortunately no one whoās how good the prospects will be, they could very well suck, itās a mystery box.
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fire steve pleeeeeeeeeease!!!
trade Larkin
How predictable…contrived outrage…and wrong take.
Exactly why Iām not on social media. I got enough mental problems without it.
These 2 have little grasp of the cap era of hockey.
Outstanding! By the logic of some of those replies, if the wings were good and made the playoffs, it would have been because of Ken Holland right? Do you think they would be giving him credit if that happened? š NOT!
I mean both things can be true, if he was not Stevie he'd be fired yes. This team also is much better than when he got them also true, the down years were THAT BAD. His pro scouting side as a GM has been at best questionable with assest management (shiping out Walman with a 2nd or 3rd pick I forget which), and who is the best FA hes gotten long term? Now I will say his amateur scouting is pretty good and we are now starting to see the return on that thankfully with Edvinsson, Seider, Raymond, Kasper, and Johansson looking pretty good in their rookie years IMO. Then you got Mazur, Danielsson, maybe ASP looking at maybe guys next year that take that next step up potentially. Cossa gets starts I imagine next year with Talbot and Mrazek being guys you start the year with. Now if he really wants to swing for the fences this offseason on a Marner type this offseason the money is there in the capspace I believe but yeah little evidence of that in the past obviously. I think he has to launch Holl and Tarasenko out of a cannon this offseason with buyouts atleast Senko and make Holl ride pine as a 6th or AHL guy as well absolute disaster contracts (thankfully not long term though).
Fire Yzerman!!
Wings could go to 2035 without making the playoffs, and Steve-bots would still be saying, "next year"
So many dumbasses, itās unreal they cannot separate Yzerman the fantastic hockey player from Yzerman the questionable GM.
As good as the draft picks are, the fact of the matter is that in the seven years of his draft a whopping FOUR players have made the jump since then, other teams are playing theyāre young guys and seeing promising results.
The Wings organization over ripens the prospects and then the Yzergoofs thump their chest about how deep it is in comparison to the rest of the league willfully ignoring those other teams young players have already graduated and are contributing to the team already or are just AHL fodder, theyāre playing this game where āthe futureā is something completely undefined and thus can be manipulated to suit their needs, if the year 2035 came up and the Wings finally made it, they can thump their chest and mock the doomers for doubting, meanwhile others have lost interest and invested in the actual winning teams in Detroit.
I can say Iām genuinely terrified of this offseason because if itās like the others weāll be signing more older bums who arenāt good for shit and still wonāt play the young talent that is hyped to no end while we still wait to see if theyāre actually any good.
Either shit or get off the point Steve.
Apparently, shifting from the west to the east has not worked out. The thought of firing Stevie Y. is unfathomable to me. Heās too big in this town, to fire him, (at this point).
Iām under the impression ownership is cheap, (letting go of Walman)?
Steveās whole plan is ālets just suck until the kids are readyā and itās not good enough. Heās basically Al Avila at this point, drafted some good players but also signed some horrific contracts.
LMFAOOO
I saw those posts earlier
I fucking died when seeing them.
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Fire Steve Yzerman
Could you describe the drops in the comments or something with time stamps haha? Is that legal?
Chris Illitch is also responsible for the Red Wings decline
The team is soft. They do not have a number one goalie and maybe 5 players that could make a different squad. Bring up the youth and take your lumps. Cossa needs to be in net. They need a coach that will add some fortitude to this team.
Please find a way to play the drops on video. It's so awkward hearing the silence.
Yserplan failed. It might need to be rebuilt.
Dude, please, the preferred nomenclature is "Yzer-stans."
Get. The. Drops. On. YouTube.
who would you rather have: Hronek Wallman or Holl Petry….Kenny's fault for sure
You clowns have zero clue.
These messages are spot on.
Yzerman was handcuffed this past offseason with the signings of Raymond and Seider, which also caused him to have to let go of several key players that otherwise probably would have been retained, like Perron and Ghost. I think the team took about 2 steps forward last season and one step backward this season but I also think that's the hockey world in general in the cap age. I think overall the fanbase is understandably impatient right now and yes being who Yzerman is and was as a Detroit sports legend, we should give him a little more leeway. With that being said, id say that we should all suck this up and give him one more season, and if the playoffs are a bust again then it's sayonara Stevie.
I was not expecting this video to end the way it did lmao
Yzerman HAS TO F_KKIN GO ASAP
Zero Toughness! Sad
Yzerman supporters never played hockey & I bet you are GAY!
Not going to the game tomorrow
Steve BLOWS!
Anyone defending him is lgbtq+Loser & BLOWS TO!
Gauranteed Stevie fans are liberals & voted ka mala!!!!!!!!!
Mike the āYou Donāt Know Hockeyā is the favorite argument of āI canāt argue your point, so Iāll just pretend your too stupid to argue withā tactic. These idiots know full well this isnāt going good and if they donāt try to sell you on āthe futureā then they have absolutely nothing to lean on.
They canāt point to the current roster and claim success since the roster as it is canāt get out of the way of bad eastern conference with four good young players, a beaten up captain, a streaky shooter, and a past his prime HoF. Anyone else Yzerman has brought on has been mid to ass and the one or two good FA signing in Ghost and Walman he let walk and in Walman case gave away for nothing only to bring in Justin Holl and Gustafson.
This rebuild has been a complete disaster thus far and unfortunately no one whoās how good the prospects will be, they could very well suck, itās a mystery box.
Fire Millen
Not having the drops is criminal
Should have traded Larkin for prospects, kept Walman and Ghost and let the full-scale rebuild going.
Stevie,,, Great drafting,overall..TERRIBLE !! signing !! Period. and trades wore not great..