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We’re going over the extra context on Jim Rutherford’s comments to The Globe and Mail, in regards to the Elias Pettersson and JT Miller trade situation with the Canucks.
G&M: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/article-vancouver-canucks-jim-rutherford-elias-pettersson-jt-miller/
Sportsnet: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-jim-rutherford-not-a-good-solution-for-miller-pettersson-rift/
This video is taking place after the 2024 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
The 2024 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
1st) San Jose Sharks, Macklin Celebrini
2nd) Chicago Blackhawks, Artyom Levshunov
3rd) Anaheim Ducks, Beckett Sennecke
4th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Cayden Lindstrom,
5th) Montreal Canadiens, Ivan Demidov
6th) Utah Hockey Club, Tij Iginla
7th) Ottawa Senators, Carter Yakemchuk
8th) Seattle Kraken, Berkly Catton
9th) Calgary Flames, Zayne Parekh
10th) New Jersey Devils, Anton Silayev
11th) San Jose Sharks (from Buffalo Sabres), Sam Dickinson
12th) Minnesota Wild (from Philadelphia Flyers), Zeev Buium
13th) Philadelphia Flyers (from Minnesota Wild), Jett Luchanko
14th) Buffalo Sabres (from Pittsburgh Penguins via San Jose Sharks), Konsta Helenius
15th) Detroit Red Wings, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
16th) St. Louis Blues, Adam Jiricek
17th) Washington Capitals, Terik Parascak
18th) Chicago Blackhawks (from New York Islanders), Sacha Boisvert
19th) Vegas Golden Knights, Trevor Connelly
20th) New York Islanders (from Tampa Bay Lightning via Chicago Blackhawks), Cole Eiserman
21st) Montreal Canadiens (from Los Angeles Kings), Michael Hage
22nd) Nashville Predators, Yegor Surin
23rd) Anaheim Ducks (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Stian Solberg
24th) Utah Hockey Club (from Colorado Avalanche), Cole Beaudoin
25th) Boston Bruins (from Boston Bruins via Detroit Red Wings and Ottawa Senators), Dean Letourneau
26th) Los Angeles Kings (from Winnipeg Jets via Montreal Canadiens), Liam Greentree
27th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Carolina Hurricanes), Marek Vanacker
28th) Calgary Flames (from Vancouver Canucks), Matvei Gridin
29th) Dallas Stars, Emil Hemming
30th) New York Rangers, EJ Emery
31st) Toronto Maple Leafs (from Edmonton Oilers via Anaheim Ducks), Ben Danford
32nd) Edmonton Oilers (from Florida Panthers via Philadelphia Flyers), Sam O’Reilly
This video is also taking place after 2024 NHL Season, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Florida Panthers defeated the Edmonton Oilers in the Finals.
Elias Pettersson was one of the top NHL prospects at the 2017 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2017 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The Top 26 of the draft went as follows:
1st – New Jersey Devils, Nico Hischier
2nd – Philadelphia Flyers, Nolan Patrick
3rd – Dallas Stars, Miro Heiskanen
4th – Colorado Avalanche, Cale Makar
5th – Vancouver Canucks, Elias Pettersson
6th – Vegas Golden Knights, Cody Glass
7th – New York Rangers (from Arizona Coyotes), Lias Andersson
8th – Buffalo Sabres, Casey Mittelstadt
9th – Detroit Red Wings, Michael Rasmussen
10th – Florida Panthers, Owen Tippett
11th – Los Angeles Kings, Gabriel Vilardi
12th – Carolina Hurricanes, Martin Necas
13th – Vegas Golden Knights (from Winnipeg Jets), Nick Suzuki
14th – Tampa Bay Lightning, Callan Foote
15th – Vegas Golden Knights (from New York Islanders), Erik Brannstrom
16th – Calgary Flames, Juuso Valimaki
17th – Toronto Maple Leafs, Timothy Liljegren
18th – Boston Bruins, Urho Vaakanainen
19th – San Jose Sharks, Josh Norris
20th – St. Louis Blues, Robert Thomas
21st – New York Rangers, Filip Chytil
22nd – Edmonton Oilers, Kailer Yamamoto
23rd – Arizona Coyotes (from Minnesota Wild), Pierre-Olivier Joseph
24th – Winnipeg Jets (from Columbus Blue Jackets via Vegas Golden Knights), Kristian Vesalainen
25th – Montreal Canadiens, Ryan Poehling
26th – Dallas Stars (from Chicago Blackhawks), Jake Oettinger
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24 Comments
Keep Petey, his best years are still ahead. Trade drama queen Miller.
Trade Miller only .
Hughes has to decide… trade them both and we're another 3 years from being in the playoffs, he walks. Trade the wrong one, he walks. We can't lose hughes cuz of two babies.
Petey was actually on pace for over 110 points last year until after the all star break – he's been on that 50-70 point pace since then, including playoffs – almost a year now.
Anyone for a second think that the case might actually be a beef between Miller and Tocchet but the organization is trying to save face so they can continue to bring in good players in hopes to not lose Hughes and have to start a complete rebuild in a year and a half? That said maybe they're using a known tiff from the past between Miller and Petterson to keep the coach out of the drama and save face since they've realized their mistake signing Petterson and would like to trade him anyway?
Don't trade them. Pick up rantenen in off-season. Trade miller . Try get miller to have a good last half before we trade him on a high note
Management has to blame someone for their mess
Their dman choices failed big time this year
It’s funny how Benning has been gone for so long and he still can’t do anything right
5:11 more like what happens when Petterson plays against Miller lol
petey will be traded (1st), miller in off season
And this is why I dislike the Vancouver media so much. They keep pulling this stuff. I hope the team just says no more media days
Trade both of them! Then fire Allvin as management should never allow this to fester!
Trade Peterson
I think Rutherford is tying to shame each of the players into behaving professionally, manning up if you like, and sacrificing their ego for the team’s success . There is no other reason to make this public, and the management has resisted commenting honestly until now . Fact is like Lenard Cohen said” everybody knows” I don’t think sitting back silently while a player takes a “ leave of absence “ to pout? Punish? Exhibit power ? Was ever the right move. It’s obvious to me that management and coaches do not have effective control over the team, a player(s) does. Just speculating …
I will point out, if one player's being a bully to another player, it's all well and good to sit on your moral high ground and say "b-b-but they're all millionaires so they should just not be affected by it." That's attitude is an oversimplification of human nature. I'd bet anyone saying that has never been subjected to bullying or mutual rifts of this sort before. I don't know the dynamic as I'm not in the locker room, but in either case, if animosity has exploded to a breaking point, where 2 people just can't get along no matter how much they might try, then sometimes you just have to pick the one you think would be better for the team to keep, and move the other on. If one of them is actually going out and bullying the other, well I've personally been bullied before, and it suppresses the hell out of you. When being bullied, it's nearly impossible to "just be a pro" or whatever nonsense. You're being suppressed and prevented from being your best actively by someone who's doing all they can to make you fail, undermining you at every turn, from physically to mentally and emotionally. Based on what we know of the 2 players involved, I'd say it's highly unlikely that Pettesson's bullying Miller, but very possible Miller's bullying Pettersson. It's also very possible this is just mutual animosity too, of course, but how Pettersson had a renaissance in his play when Miller wasn't around the team tells a lot.
If it is the case that Miller's being a bully, then he, and he alone has to go first, and just get rid of him ASAP for whatever we can get fast for him. We can't have cancer like that in our locker room. Take away the bully's target, and he'll just pick a new target to bully. We already found that out the hard way with Messier. He bullied Linden, and management got rid of Linden, then he picked a new target and bullied him, and so on. The only way forward in the case of a JT the bully scenario is move JT and see how Pettersson reacts once freed of the bullying.
If it's mutual, then stats and observation shows that Pettersson can do more positive things for the team then Miller can, and has more longevity in being effective, and more upside potential. Move Miller, see if Pettersson settles down and learns a valuable life lesson, and moves on. If not, there's still a deadline deal to move him on too.
Either way, Miller's clearly the first one that has to go, so we can see if that starts the healing process for the team morale or not, and let that dictate the next move. But that has to happen with enough time before the deadline to see what plays out, without backing yourself into a corner trying to get some perfect deal that'll never come, not even close.
Lego, that one guy is not ONLY affecting Pettersson. Brock's scoring is down, last year he was a 40 goal, 70 point guy, this year he's not even close. Suter's way down from his "Suter the Shooter" start. Hronek's down, Hughes is about the only one who's not down from the returning Canucks. At what point do you stop blaming Pettersson for all that happens around him and figure that maybe there's a common denominator that's tanking the play of just about everyone around him? Something seems to have snapped in Miller earlier this season and he's been a different man since then, a man who's tanking the producing of nearly everyone around him, so don't charry pick and tunnel vision on ONE GUY.
If Miller is finally moved and Pettersson doesn't recover by the deadline, OK, fine, consider trading him and doing a full retool. If removing Miller causes Pettersson, Brock, Garland, Suter, and others to suddenly rebound and get back to playing how they were before the drama started, then we know what we need to do – bolster the rest of the core and give them the tools they need to make a run. If they can't recover, then move them on and retool with a new core. Miller's placed himself at the crux of it all.
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Your point about EP40 is bang on. He will have streaks of 100 point player, but I feel like there will always be 'something' leading to him disappearing in a slump. That contract will always be a huge anchor for him in a market like Vancouver.
Things have gotten so bad in the Carlos locker room, but even if neither EP40 nor Miller is traded anytime soon, what about that blue line or the lack of depth scoring?
Tik Tok has ruined the offensive flair of the team. The management needs to own their horrible construction of the D core. The president airing the teams problems to the public is a horrible look and weakens their trading leverage.
The star players need to grow up and start focusing on their jobs.
Miller & petey aint goin anywhere
I think some blame needs to be put on Quinn Hughes for losing control of the room. Maybe wasn’t ready for the C
I an starting to think that this whole thing , this Drama may be a result of management/coaching. It is artificial. I believe there will be no trades
Lotto line or bust! The Canucks committed to both of these guys as both of the players did the same with the Canucks. If that cant happen because both these guys are too weak. Then you retain as little salary as possible and sell the farm to bring the other two Hughes boys to play with Quinn. Make this Quinn Hughes team.