After sacking manager Sean Dyche on Thursday Everton confirmed their decision to bring back David Moyes to replace him by Saturday.
So is Moyes the right choice to rebuild Everton and keep them in the Premier League?
Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic’s Everton correspondent Patrick Boyland and The Athletic FC newsletter lead writer Phil Hay to discuss and analyse the decision to remove Dyche and bring back Moyes.
The Athletic’s Greg O’Keeffe, having seen Moyes’ first reign firsthand, also drops in to give his views on the return of the Scot, as well as Italian football correspondent James Horncastle looking at the role of new owners The Friedkin Group.
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:25 Recap of the Everton situation
00:02:39 Does Dyche deserve more respect?
00:04:23 David Moyes back to Everton
00:09:44 What is Moyes looking to achieve?
00:20:28 The Friedkin Group’s actions
00:27:39 Do The Friedkins see Moyes as short-term?
00:33:48 Everton in the transfer window
00:42:45 The Merseyside derby
00:43:35 Final comments
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38 Comments
Oh, the arrogance of youth
He won the equivalent of the European Johnstones paint trophy and has been sacked at every club he has been at bar a great 2 seasons at West Ham whose fans eventually hounded him out after not utilising the great players they had. Call me a Sinic but moyes and Dyche are the same manager
This makes everton more liley to go down in my estimations and they look very good value at the bookies
"It's so different to 2013"
Moyes has only been out of the PL for 6 months. He's hardly going to be taken by surprise!
I think this is a terrible move by TFG, it absolutely wreaks of desperation, especially when there are other managers out there that where available who are better than Moyes is. When he was with Everton, he had his team playing some seriously dour football. The joke he turned strikers into defenders was not lost in translation. It was not a shock to see Dyche sacked, his stats proved how atrocious he was as a manager in the premier league. 8 league wins 12 calendar months. 4 Months without a win. The least goals scored. Buying players and then barely ever using them when we had very little money. Many of our players in preseason ended up injured..what the heck was he doing with the players to see so many injuries. I will thank him for saving us from relegation but thats all I will thank him for. By the time he got sacked he had fully turned us into Burnley…there was a good reason he was sacked at Burnley, and a very good reason why he was sacked at Everton. How anyone could think it was a shock is baffling..look at the god damned results and lack of goals. I believe you should never go back to go forward, this is a very negative move for the toffees. This is just another band aid being applied until everything goes pear shaped again. I am sick of this. We have a bottom 6 team, thanks to Moshiri..that punches way above it's weight on occasions especially against teams who love possession based football. I just hope TFG have thought in advance who our next manager will be, because I cannot see Moyes being here too long, even he as said as much.
Moyes literally went back to West Ham and won a European trophy. Hardly a badly reheated soup 🙄
Yeah I don’t think he will recognize the league at all. I mean he will have some perspective because he’s been in the Premier League for years since leaving Everton…
Would it be possible to mute Ayo’s mic when guests are answering? Some of the humming overlaps a bit
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There was no thank you from Corporate USA!
If they wanted to do something sooner, they should not have played corporate games!
Corporate USA are vultures!
ayo and phil the 🐐’s
Everton should be ashamed for not thanking dyche. without him they’d be in the championship
Moyes will keep Everton up this season….. It's Leicester and Ipswich that will be relegated along with Southampton.
Unlike the Italian saying about the soup in Liverpool we eat a stew called Scouse and every S 0:53 couser knows Scouse always tastes better the next day when it’s reheated
Sounds like they had to tell the public at that point because he had basically quit and they would have had to explain his absence in the dug out anyway.
You can tell if your an everton fan or not by if you give dyche an excuse for not making the team better .
The shock is that Dyche was not sacked after Bournemouth in August. To be 2 nil up on 87 minutes and lose 3-2 was catastrophic. The vast majority of Everton fans were demoralised and no correspondent appears to comprehend the weariness of our players capitulating in such a pathetic manner yet again. Clearly the manager did absolutely nothing to stop this surrender and in fact was 100% responsible for just watching on at a car crash. That was nothing to do with budgets.
You all know this is unfinished business. Last few games at Goodison will be under Moyes again and I wouldn’t be surprised if Wayne joined him. Moyes gave him his chance and he had no alternative but to sell him to avoid the club facing bankruptcy. So with a core of Moyes, Rooney, Baines and Coleman which Everton player would dare to go on the pitch and not give 100%. If they didn’t you can bet they will be out. And you can expect our youngsters to be given a chance to come through and shine instead of being sold quickly to make a profit. Successful teams are built on players who give everything for the badge, not just trot out have ten touches all match as they are too busy daydreaming of their next Ferrari.
Why did David Moyes rejoin Everton … because NO ONE else wanted him … not Leicester … not Southampton … not even Plymouth … so brace yourselves Everton fans as you have ended any hope of staying up when you pushed Dyche out and replaced him with the con artist Moyes
David Moyes is back to lay down foundation for the next two or three season improve financial and fan base,squad depth of the entire Everton.
Love the italian cultural reference from James Horncastle at 30:53 …brought some humour but seriously posed the point about the wider managerial structure fit and expectation(s) surrounding a coach returning to a club where they previously had success. Just thinking the known clash Moyes had with WH's sporting director should be considered here by the new Everton ownership……
Gentle reminder to all those seeing this as a great leap forward; last season Moyes set a club record at West Ham for most goals conceded in a Premier League season, playing the worst brand of football in the league. The season before wasn't much better with relegation only avoided with a few games to go, and that was with Declan Rice. First two seasons were better but the warning signs were there. I think if the backroom staff is good then Everton should be fine this season. The league is changing and he definitely is not.
I think we do have a good team we have players who have been cocahed by dyche to play the worst brand of football.
Nice to hear people speak about the situation with knowledge and understanding and not just have an opinion based of casual takes on social media.
Moyes was the right option 5 years ago and he still is now.
I can see why he went back, and why they wanted him back, and time will tell if that is enough to keep Everton in the PL this season
Sounds cynical but I’m hoping Moyes does the minimum and gets us safe without the 19th nervous breakdown..thus TFG Will pay him off handsomely and look to the long term prospect, enter..?…
A BIG Thank you to Sean Dyche for two years hard work
I felt moyes had took us as far as he was going to with his approach to big games the first time but he left us in a good position
Boyland- we need to wait to hear from Dyche himself before taking the Friedkin narrative that he says he had taken the team as far as he could. Don't be taken in by the spin they are putting on things.
Everton have been talking to Moyes for weeks.
Reheating soup normally adds flavour for me…
I like Moyes, but god i hate Everton. The internal battle i'm dealing with right now.
The truth about the GAS LIGHTING 🤡David Moyes, these are not my opinions as they are clear FACTS!
1. When Moyes took over the managers job in 2013 he sacked all of Fergie's multiple league & cup winning backroom staff because Moyes wanted complete control of all of the aspects of the club. 12 years later the club have still not recovered from his incompetence
2. Having been SACKED by United in 2014 Moyes moved onto Real Sociedad where he lasted a year with a win rate of 29% before being SACKED AGAIN
3. During Moyes' time at Real Sociedad he did not make any attempts to learn Spanish. Sometime later Moyes got a new rule introduced within the Scottish FA that all new Scottish Managers who were undertaking their required badges had to learn a second language even though HE NEVER DID!
4. In 2016 Moyes joined Sunderland where he got them RELEGATED after achieving an amazingly low 19% win rate. Just like Man Utd, Sunderland have never recovered from it!
5. Moyes agreed to take over the WHU manager job whilst Slaven Bilic was still in charge 2017 (Slimy or what) for Moyes to then go onto having a 29% win rate even though Bilic win rate was 38%
6. In 2018 WHU decided not to extend Moyes 1 year contract so they brought onboard the 10 yes TEN managerial trophy winning Pelegrini as their new manager. The board had a knee jerk reaction in sacking him 18 months later in 2019 when WHU were in the relegation zone even though there was a good chance that he would have secured Prem League safety had he been allowed to carry on.
7. The WHU board decided to bring back David Moyes who previously had a 29% win rate to replace Pelegrini who had a win rate of 38% (the same as Bilic)
8. Moyes steadied the ship over the next 4 seasons whilst "AS HE LIKES TO TELL EVERYONE" that "HE" won them their first cup in 40 years … and he did … but look at the FACTS … as the WHU had given Moyes over £500m worth of talent over the past 4 years. The really amazing fact is that this sum of money was MORE than ALL OF the teams that WHU played in that European competition COMBINED!!!
9. Moyes has an amazingly concerning poor history of hand picking new players himself that cost the club tens of millions of pounds to then play them out of position. When it all goes wrong as it commonly does, Moyes then gives the players the cold shoulder and pushes them out of the door at a major financial loss as he did with Haller, Scamacca, Benrahma, Vlasic & Cornet to name a few
10. WHU has one of the best academies in world football at the moment but Moyes simply will not play these young players even in cup competitions against lesser teams like Bristol City who funny enough beat WHU because our team was simply tied because of the lack of player rotation
11. Considering the £500m that Moyes has wasted over the 4 years, he is leaving the club with the smallest and OLDEST squad in the Prem League.
So there you go, just a few FACTS about the useless snake oil salesman David Moyes who for some really weird reason has the football media in his pocket as they constantly patronise the WHU fans with ignorant statements like "Be careful what you wish for" as these clowns don't pay to watch the narcissistic one trick negative pony David Moyes terrible so called football
Maybe if he hadn't gone to United that Conference League trophy could be in Evertons trophy cabinet rather than West Hams
Didn’t realise West Ham weren’t in the prem
Lots of his best players sold? Onana? He don’t even play him
What players were sold from under his feet??! Absolutely full of shite there paddy. And who’s this goose ayo. Host with no clue and a bunch of bum lickers except Phil that speaks sense. No thanks for me
I don't know what it is, but Phil Hay reminds me of Holly from Red Dwarf.