Olli Maatta was dealt to the Utah Hockey Club for a ’25 3rd round pick, late Tuesday night. Why did they execute this trade, and was the return enough? Detroit finished 4-5-1 in October, which is a fine result despite their performances, given the strength of schedule. But in October, the schedule lightens up and the Red Wings have to do better. How much better? Finally, previewing the Buffalo Sabres. #LGRW
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When you lock up too much cap space with marginal players (Compher/Copp/Holl), you will have cap casualties elsewhere.
I am a habs fan before a nordiques fans so i am an expert to see my team losing . I love your show ..important to be positive. Your are better than me ..wish you the best . Dont be like buffalo and i wish montreal will not.be buffalo too
LMK when Yzerman & LaLonde are fired
Did anyone see the article about Lalonde calling out Larkin. If you did, thoughts?
J. QUENNVILLE…..Yes, make the call and fast!
You keep saying "bottom feeder teams" and not "OTHER bottom feeder teams."
There has to be something more to the Walman deal. The GMs involved will never say what was at hand, but clearly Yzerman didn't want Walman for reason X and Grier would only take Walman with a 2nd because of reason Y. X and Y could have been the same reason, Y could have been X + Z. We won't know, but digging up the past on that one will always be painful because we saw a player that had been good and he was fun, but we will never have the insight of why the deal got made as it stands. It's like when someone dumps you and doesn't give a concrete reason. Best to move on and not think about it because the unknowns will hurt every time and the unknowns will not be answered.
Jake and ghost are having good seasons
Brian's "dime a dozen" comment is flawed when you have Petty playing top minutes against the Jets and Holl getting line deployments with our best. A proven d-man when 3 other slow-footed, passed prime, players is not clear. And will never be. They get to move up AJo who is just learning, and now he learns from 3 guys, who more than not, make our defense look like crap. I am glad they have 4 wins, so far, but the way they are playing is not showing playoff calibre hockey anytime soon, with who now is on the roster. LGRW🏒
Because Petry, Chiarot and Holl aren’t worth anything.
Walman had the most value out of all the d outside Seider and Edvinson. Maatta had the most value of who was left.
Our D is a mess.
Division games are always important.
This team can only continue to play “like this”.. 😔
I’m to the point where my blood pressure instantly increases when I hear Lalonde speak. I can promise everyone, he will NOT be here when the Wings are actually good, he’s not head coach material. It’s really that simple. I compare him to my favorite coach in the league (Paul Maurice) and the differences are stark.
Never should have let Ghost walk. That dude can make an entire PP unit effective. Watched Carolina last night and instantly got angry with Yzerman. Their PP is killing it right now, largely in part of Ghost.
I'm kinda tired of the Walman talk/trade comparison. Walman had to be a problem/bad locker room guy…something that gms and coaches aren't going to say publicly. When we all just understand that, we all can move on.
What do they need to do? Bring up all their prospects now, sit veterans or trade them if they're a bridge player or send them to the ahl, and see what happens, and i mean bring up all their prospects, or they're going to lose the fans completely. Id rather watch them fall into the toilet this year, play asb, play johansen, play cossa, play kasper, danielson, mazur, bergrren and whoever actually has a chance to make this team in the next 3 years because this system will not work with this roster and firing lalonde will do nothing other than hit a reset button that will continue to see seasons mired in disappointment. Yzermans a great drafting gm, but a terrible free agent gm. Problem is draft picks take time, and that takes longer when you have scotty yzerman bowman jrs. philosophy to make them earn it in the minors and then take a 2 year back seat to veterans going back and forth between the ahl and nhl, just can't do that if you want to be successful nowadays.
No one gives a rats hind end about Matta. The fans are still wondering why we didn't resign Ghost and not trade Walman. Yzerman is now in his sixth clown year, His show is getting old. Tell me why we wanted Seider over the goal scorers who were available to him, and that question goes on every year. He also has an organization loaded with his non-educated croonies. And a HC who couldn't inspire a Turnip.
Yzerman loves trading for draft picks.
At the end of the day, Ghost and Walman combine to make ~7m. If we had kept both of those contracts, we wouldn’t have had the cap to sign the big seider and Raymond deals which were top priority this offseason, as they should have been. Gus was brought in to be a cheaper version of ghost and it simply hasn’t worked out to this point. You have to take chances sometimes and you won’t hit on them all. Gus had 6g 25a with 2nd PP last year and looked good when he got PP1 with fox down. I think it was a smart risk to take. We’ll see if he gets better, there are still 72 games to play. I don’t believe this team is suddenly 6-3-1 with ghost in the lineup, the problems are deeper than that. I don’t like the system and it looks like the players hate playing the system. Last year this team was fun and exciting, this year feels lifeless. We certainly have some holes, but I think this problem is beyond the players on the ice
please stop with the walman crap he isn't that good if your being honest and he was being cleared to bring in trouba its not like it was for no reason
We might need to make a move for a 2nd pair D man prior to the deadline. Hopefully once the flu bug has passed by they team can get it together, but they have looked awful this season so far.
A fish rots from the head down.
Start with the head coach then the captain then the rest of so called "leadership" group.
There's your problem
The process of Early season line combinations
The trade didnt happen in the offseason because utah didnt have the need like they do now with their second pair both being on LTIR
I watch these for Scotty. Winged Wheel Podcast is the real Locked On Redwings
The record I can accept. Though they just look bad. They could easily be winless.
The Wings NEED a legit 2 pair R Dman ! If they have to overpay a little so be it…they have really stagnated…
Bringing up Walman in the context of the Maatta is totally fair. In fact, I think it's fair to say that if it were not forget the Justin Holl signing, we wouldn't have needed to move Walman for cap space or Maatta for roster space. Holl is playing OK for the moment, but I think I'd rather still have Walman and have Maatta and Chiarot on expiring contracts at the end of the year and potentially making a move for another piece than the current roster with Holl for another year
Detroit is not a good defensive team yet and the coaching staff wants to force that "defensive first, cash on the other team mistakes" system. Fine by me if this is the system you want your young player to develop in. But it does not work with that team and they are outmatched by the opposition most of the time, trying to be extra defensive, playing on their heels with their stick extended, trying to reach for pucks … I see no gritt, no fun, no second effort … Wont even mention the no look clear along the board or those dump & (nobody to) chase.
It started bringing negativity and lack of confidence last February,and we all know how it ended … They say they moved on, but honestly they still look pissed and are totally flat. They need some change
Can we stop talking about the Walman trade by itself. It doesn’t happen if there wasn’t a supposed deal for Trouba believed to be in place. The trade of the pick was needed to get a deal done in a fast time frame to get money available for Trouba.
What Red Wings fans need to understand but don't and I do because I do is that when Steve Yzerman got here, the cupboard was bare. There were no Keurig coffee pods or snacks or prospects in the cupboard at all and he had to go to CostCo and get them himself, uphill both ways, and that's really super hard guys. And also the roster was really bad and even though it's still bad it was before and it's hard to go to work every day when the team is bad. So don't criticize him at all for anything because you don't understand the Yzerplan which is to draft and sign hockey players because that's your adult job as the general manager of an adult professional hockey organization to staff a hockey team. -every Yzerman water carrier on here.
I’m tired of 3 minutes of Segment 3 being a recap of Segment 2. This podcast is becoming increasingly boring. WWP is far superior
Walman has 9 points in 12 games…Yzerman should be ashamed at how bad he is at his job
I bet maatta want out of Detroit
10 years from now wings will make playoffs and Larkin will retire. Nobody wants to play in Detroit and we will never get 1st overall or 2nd like Chicago. Hopefully grandpa yzerman gets his shit together not much has changed in 6 years.