The Detroit Red Wings lost both games of their back-to-back this weekend. Blowing a 2-goal lead to the Ducks, and getting blown out by the Kings. So the question becomes, when do they pull the plug on Derek Lalonde? Marco Kasper also scored his 1st NHL goal, and Jack Campbell was placed on waivers. #LGRW
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48 Comments
But we get GOOD LOOKS!!!!
There is no reason to panic 😅
Something intereting you guys briught up late in the show about Kane.
We' ve all heard about the chemistry Kane and Debrincat had together playing in Chicago…..why aren' t they together here?
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the center position is a disaster. larkin, more of a scorer first, is it. too much time and no other centerman? not good. love stevie but no excuses when your the guy.
Newsy needs to go…
We’ve taken steps forward every year under Yzerman. I think it’ll be hard to do that this year. This is not only losing hockey it’s dull and unemotional hockey. As Kurt Cobain said, entertain us.
The team might tank this Sharks game just to get this guy fired if they hate him that much.
My first thought ……..Gerard Gallant. Perhaps more of a forward mentality is needed as opposed to the two ex-goalies we've had recently is needed.
It's not Yzerman's fault that free agents weren't available, but the roster is still his problem. It isn't Lalonde's fault that the roster isn't as strong as the best teams in the league, but it's his problem. It isn't Copp or Veleno or Rasmussen or Gustafsson's fault that they're not more talented players, but it's their problem.
Everyone is a part of this, and they have to find a way to overcome their weaknesses. It just so happens that starting with the coach is the easiest path if things can't change.
If we lose tonight, fire lalonde and bring in a new coach, if nothing changes, start trading players, the season is looking like an early wash already so nothing to lose there draft picks wise
So… What I hear you saying is that if we should lose to the Baby Sharks… Everyone should be fired except for Alex Tanguay lol
I'm one of those that has said that Scotty Bowman couldn't come in and fix the 24-25 Red Wings.
As long as Chiarot, Holl and Petry are on the Wings roster then we are going to lose games. This roster is a mess. If anybody should have a hot seat, it's the pro scouts and Yzerman that have hot seats. This is their mess.
I'm starting to lose interest in this team and their rebuild…getting old real quick
Sadly, we're one point ahead of the Sharks, who are on their 3rd season of rebuild and we're on our 9th. Lalonde once said he let's his players define their play, and that has stuck with me for a long time, watching the same mistakes, over and over, he's just not the leader we need. We lack discipline, we lack the ability to play 60, we lack defensive closure on the blue line. LA played a great game, a lot of plays based on being deep when the Wings dumped the puck, intercepting and great breakout plays. Lyon looks bad because he's being shot at like a kewpie doll at a carnival. Lalonde needs to go.
The dump and don’t chase system, the soft ass team, the lack of a true number one goalie, etc…I don’t understand this team’s makeup at all, and I’m really biting my tongue here because I refuse to talk bad about Stevie Y.
You cannot win if you cannot generate 5×5 offense, get outshot every game, have terrible PK.
This style of play from the Red Wings is about as fun to watch as the mid-1990s New Jersey Devils and the Jacques Lemaire "neutral zone trap." I have no desire to watch the Red Wings or go to a game because there is zero excitement with this style of play. How many odd man rushes, breakaways, or highlight reel goals have we seen from the Wings this year? Not many at all.
It’s not the wins or losses which are of concern, it’s the overall performance of the team.
Wings have lost several games where they have had the lead, in some cases by two goals, and have a total collapse defensively to lose the game.
Whatever defensive scheme we are trying to implement isn’t working. The structure does does not work
What is the fucking plan for this team? Does anybody know? Cuz Yzerman doesn’t
Grossly incompetent coaching staff! And I'm not giving Yzerman a pass either. The defense is atrocious. Sieder is even playing poorly. Totally unacceptable on all levels. Still looks like Blashill is still behind the bench. 🤬
Almost 20 games have been played.1/4 of the season is gone. Wings are sitting at the bottom of the league, and no sign of improvement ahead of this team and probably will not be any with a current setup Talbot kept us floating somehow so far. Agreed, make decisions after Sharks game before its too late.
Exactly what ive been saying for years. Your stupid system beats the creativity out of these kids
Everyone complaining about dumb and chase does not understand hockey at a high level. We’re trapped in our own zone and have no choice but to dump and change cuz our guys are tired. How is it Derek’s fault when Chariot is playing first line D and Petry is our second best D. Our roster sucks. Without Simon we got nothing. Firing Newzy is blaming him for Yzermans terrible roster. How can we not fix our only problem over the off season which is defense
If we fire Newzy no matter who we sign we will not improve. He will be hired very quick
Celebrini with a hatty tonight, any takers?
Devil's advocate … do you think both of you are feeding off the success of the Lion's rebuild to be as critical as you are? I'm all about the Wings being excellent but I don't think there is an answer for Yzerman to make the quick rebound here. I think we all need a straight defensive rebuild based on old school hockey… stay at home defensemen. But I don't think a coaching change is the answer.
Time to find someone with hair
Good coaches adapt their system to play to their roster's strength. This guy seems like he's coaching in a vacuum. And no adjustments ever, beyond the occasional line blender. I get that Trouba was supposed to shore up the back end, but wow is it god awful right now.
Honestly. Lalonde getting fired might send a message that something must change. Bring in a coach whose style can match the wings roster. Also a line up that promotes chemistry not switching players up and down the line up every game. It also doesn’t take a genius to not put copp in the top 6. U want to shake up the top 6. Then put kasper Kane and compher on that line. With kasper the center. Or swap berggren with compher. Kasper speed may open some room for Kane. That’s pretty much all Kane needs in the offensive zone.
Moritz Seider getting turn-styled by Kevin Fiala and tripping over his own skates face-first into the boards is the present and future of this team in a single moment.
Gerard Gallant would be a good choice for this team right now. There are also questions about the GM and his vision for this team. Yzerman brought the players in so he has some liability too IMO. Forget about bringing in the likes of Joel Quenville. That’s a huge non starter. It’s always about being accountable in my book.
I don't blame coaches. I go higher up and blame Yzerman. He created this roster. For the second straight season, I've tuned out from watching Wings games. I thank the two of you for still covering this team. As for me, once again, I'm back to watching the Lions and Pistons and ignoring anything else. I'll always appreciate seeing the four Cup wins.
Should have let him go when they had a stretch of only 4 games in 2 weeks. Perfect time to bring in someone new
Just get rid of this clown. This team has no culture
At this point, the Wings are a joke. There is no system. "PERIOD!"
I'll say this, and I'm sure it won't be taken lightly by at least some Detroit fans—— The problems the Wings have should start at the top, either with Steve Yzerman, Derek Lalonde, or the both of them. However, emphasis should be made on individual players as well who don't seem to be performing at least at a minimum level of expected skill. Somebody commented earlier that he predicted Lalonde would be a worse coach than Blashell. Well, my opinion of Stevie Y's pick of Mo Seider in the first round and now paying him nearly $9 million a year, given a continuation of blown assignments, allowing for the opposing team to either gain momentum give them the lead, is coming to a head as reality is setting in on what I think was a huge mistake for the Wings. All I ever hear is Mo Seider this, or Me Seider that, almost exclusively in a positive light. That kid is making almost $9 mil a year! He should be the difference or at least a catalyst to the Wings when they're on the ice. Thus far, he is not. I think it's a little too early to tell with Raymond, Edvinnson, Kasper, Johansson, and Berggren, but with Seider, unless he steps it up and becomes major at both ends of the rink as an all around offensive defensiveman, like a Larry Robinson of the Habs 3-4 decades ago or our Nick Lidstrom, Wings fans NEED to stop being in denial and face the facts that Stevie Y's pick of Seider at that particular time in the first round was a monumental mistake. I don't want to hear anymore excuses about Seider being an invaluable player when the Wings continue losing and have a chance to NOT MAKE the playoffs. Yes, there are the insignificant players, like Chariot, Petry, Compher, and Copp, etc, who will be gone in the short term, likely after their contracts expire, but those players, like Seider, who the Wings organization figured would carry the team to prosperity, are just not cutting it.
This team is a total mess. They got rid of a lot of their better offensive players over the summer and supposedly replaced them with more defensive-minded players. The result is a team that can't score and is still bad defensively as well. I think it's time to say that the "Yzerman Plan" is not working and Lalonde is not the answer as coach.
He should have been fired last year. Gallant would be perfect. Having a former wing will bring a respect factor to the lockeroom and they need a more aggressive style. I really don't see it happening, but I really hope I am wrong. If it doesn't happen after this road trip Yzerman should be fired too. So sick of mediocrity and underperformane from this franchise.
If he was man he step down not force friend to fire him
Board battles in your zone not on the PP trying score from boads
Sorry guys 😢 I respect your efforts, and I wish you nothing but success in your future efforts.
I'm frustrated with where our team is. Scare tactic analysis of the past is useless journalism. You're good analysts, so I hope you can detach from the "locked on" network, so you can actually report in an independent way. Wish ya the best.
Hate to say it but the fans need to keep little ceaser arena empty for about a month then maybe something will happen
I think there’s a LOT of blame to
go around. I don’t think Lalonde grasps that he can’t play the style he wants to play with the roster he has. He HAS to re adjust his schemes to the talent he has, and seems unwilling to do so. Yzerman has overpaid free agents like Holl, Copp, and Chairot, but…it’s also not his fault he never got to draft higher than fourth overall. Also, even though the free agents weren’t the best signings…they don’t impact the Cup window because none of the contracts were more than four or five years. Also…$19 million in dead cap his first few years…thanks Holland.
Lalonde is an absolute atrocious hockey coach! He needs to be fired ASAP Steve Yzerman!!! I absolutely hate this lackluster loser Detroit Red Wings team! They are absolutely heartless & a heartless loser coach!!! 😡🤬😡🤬
#FIRELALONDE
Here we go again about hearing them rebuilding. Stevie Y is in his 5th yr. as gm. & nothing has changed. No better than when Holland. Just because he's a hall of famer doesn't make you a great gm. Forget Tampa. Just look at Gretzky. He tried his hand at coaching. Look at the result.
It’s the GM. The Terasanko,Copp, Motte and Compher signings was all stupid. The wings wasn’t at the point to sign players like that they should have kept playing the kids until Cossa was ready to be number one in Detroit.
Chris Illitch is a terrible owner, ruined the Wings & Tigers. When is Yzerman held accountable? I don't care what he did as a player here or GM in Tampa. He's done next to nothing here and gets a pass on everything. How long does it take to clean up Holland's mess? Year 6 of the 15 yr Yzerplan. Get outta Yzerman's butt and see the team for what it is, a below average to bad team🤷🏻♂
Yzerman needs a hot seat as well. Terrible trades can't go unnoticed
He needs to be fired and chris illitch needs to sell to a legitimate owner, Mr.I was the best, the wife and his kids suck.