It all started with his contract negotiations. That soured so many fans on him, he hasnāt ever recovered.
entityXD32
Well being an 11 million dollar winger in the cap era will do that
footwith4toes
Zach Bogosian is Paul Marner confirmed.
SeanPhixion
I get why everyone is, but I also think itās over exaggerated. Heās still a fantastic player. But I think it started with the contract negotiations, then with his non-existent playoff performance. You mix those two things with an already frustrated fanbase and it was the perfect cocktail for Mitchy to become the whipping boy for all of Torontoās playoff failures.
adwrx
Because he’s expensive and he doesn’t perform in the playoffs. He whines about everything.
91Caleb
That level of awareness is prob why bogosian never met his potential
MapleHoser
Oh, I understand why.
Cause he’s a ridiculously overpaid prima donna who disappears come playoff time.
apartmen1
Keep moving the goalposts for these guys. There is no reason any team should ever run back the same losing core for 5 years straight. Itās unbelievable.
spazkay
Because he tried the spin-o-rama, behind the back, blind pass cross ice again.
TorturedFanClub
Zach Bogosian? Really? Who cares?
apatheticboy
Way, way more criticism should be directed towards Dubas and Shanny. Itās not the playerās responsibility to make sure that the team is cap compliant or that they have room to sign depth guys. Dubas couldāve done more to get Marner under 10mil. They played chicken with Willyās agent and his contract was incredible, why couldnāt they have dug their feet in with Mitch? Why didnāt they trade Mitch before his NMC kicked in?
MickeyPanaflex
Personally I hope he stays but Iām mostly curious why anyone is asking Zach Bogosian about Mitch Marner in 2024.
ffff2e7df01a4f889
He is correct. The entire team is mid during the playoffs and all anyone does is shit on Marner.
ThisJustInWoodwork
When he announced that he was going to treat RFA like UFA and go visit teams was the day I stopped cheering for this guy
_disasterdino_
how about you enjoy minnesota old man
Dumb_rhino
Today is Matthewās Captaincy announcement and weāre here talking about Marner. This always seems to happen. Strange coincidence if you ask me.
ifrankenstein
This place is so wierd about this kid.
Flatoftheblade
Lots of comments but since nobody has mentioned it: I think the fact that Marner looks and acts like a scrawny video game nerd kid instead of a traditional tough guy hockey player is a huge part of why he’s scapegoated.
(To be clear, there are legitimate reasons to criticize him that enough people in this thread have already outlined. It’s just overdone.)
Narrow-Fortune-7905
after a few more years living on this earth you will understand completely
DarkAgeMonks
He keeps stopping up in the offensive zone during the playoffs instead of driving the net.
labadee
Why are we asking for his opinion?
desperatehouseknivez
Surely Zach knows why deep down…
Friggin_Grease
Because we’re in the last year of a his deal, which walked him to UFA, with top dollar and not top term. He raked Dubas and the team over the coals and got everything he wanted. All take, no give. I honestly think they should have given him the Nylanders treatment, let him sit till Christmas.
That was before any crunch time failures too.
Then we see contract comparables get significantly less. Why can’t we have that? Why? It’s not just Marner. It’s the Toronto tax. Luke Schenn made league minimum for years, plays 20ish games with Reilly on a playoff runs and got a 10 million dollar deal. The exact same thing happened to Lyubushkin. 3 years at 2.75 or 3 or whatever.
Agents use Toronto to boost their players value, they price themselves out of here all the time, but you can let Schenn or Lyubushkin walk. You can’t let a Marner walk, so we pay a ridiculous contract.
A good cup run or win erases all of that though.
CMDRShepardN7
Why is Bogo being asked about the Leafs?
Not saying his opinion isn’t valid. He’s a former teammate. But why suddenly ask a Wild about a former teammate?
Normal_Owl_1287
Wait heās still on the team? Phew thank god, wonāt have to watch a single game this upcoming season and have a much better life, thats my Stanley cup win
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The price of being a āgodā
I mean, heās right.
It all started with his contract negotiations. That soured so many fans on him, he hasnāt ever recovered.
Well being an 11 million dollar winger in the cap era will do that
Zach Bogosian is Paul Marner confirmed.
I get why everyone is, but I also think itās over exaggerated. Heās still a fantastic player. But I think it started with the contract negotiations, then with his non-existent playoff performance. You mix those two things with an already frustrated fanbase and it was the perfect cocktail for Mitchy to become the whipping boy for all of Torontoās playoff failures.
Because he’s expensive and he doesn’t perform in the playoffs. He whines about everything.
That level of awareness is prob why bogosian never met his potential
Oh, I understand why.
Cause he’s a ridiculously overpaid prima donna who disappears come playoff time.
Keep moving the goalposts for these guys. There is no reason any team should ever run back the same losing core for 5 years straight. Itās unbelievable.
Because he tried the spin-o-rama, behind the back, blind pass cross ice again.
Zach Bogosian? Really? Who cares?
Way, way more criticism should be directed towards Dubas and Shanny. Itās not the playerās responsibility to make sure that the team is cap compliant or that they have room to sign depth guys. Dubas couldāve done more to get Marner under 10mil. They played chicken with Willyās agent and his contract was incredible, why couldnāt they have dug their feet in with Mitch? Why didnāt they trade Mitch before his NMC kicked in?
Personally I hope he stays but Iām mostly curious why anyone is asking Zach Bogosian about Mitch Marner in 2024.
He is correct. The entire team is mid during the playoffs and all anyone does is shit on Marner.
When he announced that he was going to treat RFA like UFA and go visit teams was the day I stopped cheering for this guy
how about you enjoy minnesota old man
Today is Matthewās Captaincy announcement and weāre here talking about Marner. This always seems to happen. Strange coincidence if you ask me.
This place is so wierd about this kid.
Lots of comments but since nobody has mentioned it: I think the fact that Marner looks and acts like a scrawny video game nerd kid instead of a traditional tough guy hockey player is a huge part of why he’s scapegoated.
(To be clear, there are legitimate reasons to criticize him that enough people in this thread have already outlined. It’s just overdone.)
after a few more years living on this earth you will understand completely
He keeps stopping up in the offensive zone during the playoffs instead of driving the net.
Why are we asking for his opinion?
Surely Zach knows why deep down…
Because we’re in the last year of a his deal, which walked him to UFA, with top dollar and not top term. He raked Dubas and the team over the coals and got everything he wanted. All take, no give. I honestly think they should have given him the Nylanders treatment, let him sit till Christmas.
That was before any crunch time failures too.
Then we see contract comparables get significantly less. Why can’t we have that? Why? It’s not just Marner. It’s the Toronto tax. Luke Schenn made league minimum for years, plays 20ish games with Reilly on a playoff runs and got a 10 million dollar deal. The exact same thing happened to Lyubushkin. 3 years at 2.75 or 3 or whatever.
Agents use Toronto to boost their players value, they price themselves out of here all the time, but you can let Schenn or Lyubushkin walk. You can’t let a Marner walk, so we pay a ridiculous contract.
A good cup run or win erases all of that though.
Why is Bogo being asked about the Leafs?
Not saying his opinion isn’t valid. He’s a former teammate. But why suddenly ask a Wild about a former teammate?
Wait heās still on the team? Phew thank god, wonāt have to watch a single game this upcoming season and have a much better life, thats my Stanley cup win