Ivan Demidov VS Matvei Michkov, Who Is Better?
Today we are FINALLY talking about the two BEST Russian prospects in the NHL, comparing Montreal Canadiens’ Ivan Demidov and Philadelphia Flyers’ Matvei Michkov!
Both of these studs came in the top 3 of my 2024 NHL affiliated-prospect rankings, so today I went through each players’ strengths and weaknesses, seeing where both will excel at in the NHL, and seeing who will be the best player when it’s all said and done!
So who do I prefer between Demidov & Michkov? And which team will get the BEST player in the end? Montreal OR Philadelphia? Let’s find out!
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Been waiting to make this video for a while, let's talk about these two studs! What are YOUR thoughts on the Michkov vs Demidov debate? And which player do YOU see having the best NHL career? Let me know! #GravGang
Michkovs ceiling is a top 5 player in the nhl not just a player on a top line
If Demidov can prove he can play with the big boys we can have this conversation more realistically. Michkov may be a year older but hes got 2 years playing against men to Demidovs 0. So Demidov is a year behind Michkov's development. Put Matvei in the MHL this year and the argument about Demidovs hands being so much better would be non-existent. Demidov no doubt is a great player and I'm not saying there's no chance hes better than Michkov, but people out here acting like the MHL is good competition. He played the entire season against scrubs.
The answer is actually really complicated. The normie answer is michkov. That's not necessarily wrong either. But there are caveats to that. Michkov imo is all around a more talented player than even Bedard, who I think is a bit overrated. Michkovs game is very cerebral and very individually skilled driven. He plays hero hockey and is quite effective at it. He might be the most individually talented player I've seen since McDavid.
With all that said, here is the case for demidov. Demidov is a much more hard working player. This extends to his own end where he actually puts in effort. He'll never be a selke candidate but with the determination in his game, he'll be fine all around and more coach friendly especially come playoff time. Demidov does not have the goal scoring capabilities of michkov but is still very dynamic and a good goal scorer. He's a better playmaker and the skill he has that far surpasses michkov is his hands. They are the best I've seen in a while. He also utilizes his teammates so well and plays way better off puck in the o zone.
So again the answer is michkov but demidov will be more team friendly and has a much more translatable game to the NHL. Michkov, imo, will have to change his game to adapt to the NHL. He will be successful in that but it still has to be done.
Overall, the gap isn't big enough offensively to overlook all the red flags michkov has. Demidov is a coaches dream. Michkov is a coaches nightmare. But that nightmare is so Uber talented that you just have to put up with his overall game
There is a saying – "attitude is everything". Michkov has a poor one and Demigod has a good one. I'm takin' Ivan for my team. Mic drop.
One has constantly played against men, the other hasn’t. Need to see Denison play against men.
This guy’s scouting is very odd. A lot of what he says is actually counter what actual legit scouts and prospect experts have said about these two players. Graviteh is also the guy who said Hage’s skating was a weakness when it’s literally his greatest strength. Also, this was kind of a pointless video. We know that because the bro had to repeatedly clarify that they’re different ages and have played with pros and not. What a strange late July dead of summer click-baitey video.
Habs should have both. 😢
Nathan,I like you,but can you pay less heed to freaking russian players which are feeling in North America like at home ? Do you know that in their daydreams russians see America in radioactive ashes ? Do you realize they unleashed war not only against Ukraine,but entire western world ? They are ENEMIES ! Ignore them as if they never existed !
Not one has played an NHL game. We will see in 5 years! I wish Habs would have pick both, but word is, Michkov would not play in Montreal… Or maybe Bobrov heard too many negatives things about Michkov. Also, he did drop to seventh… Carlsen, Fantilli, Smith were all prefered over him…
You might be the only person ive seen say michkovs two way game is better than demidov
Both are great but michkov narrowly edged him😂
Who cars leave them in russia.
Canadiens got a Datsyuk.
Time will tell but as a Habs fan I’m quite happy drafting a play driving 6’ 190lb skilled player that is excited to play in Montreal and welcomes the pressure, already speaks English over …
Mitchkov which gives me diva vibes, tanked interviews with the bottom 5 teams, choosy on where he got drafted, doesn’t care to learn English, is more of a finisher which means he’s only as good as the pass coming his way.
Considering the Habs had eyes on both Mitchkov and Demidov through Bobrov’s dad in Russia and chose to pass on him, adding in the way habs have been drafting and the culture they are cultivating, I think Character could have been a reason why Habs didn’t take Mitchkov.
Also quite happy having drafted Reinbacher, he could be a stud certainly a top 4 RD prospect if not top pair.
Philly is screwed and Tortorella won’t hand hold a diva…
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Habs are building a wagon and Mitchkov may come to regret not wanting to be drafted by Montreal.
yeah all recruit says Demidov is way better in defense compare to Michkov…
Tough call, Grav. I'd say "flip a coin". I'm a Habs fan who really liked/likes Michkov. I commented on a pre-draft video you did where I was concerned about Demidov, primarily due to his injury history. I think it's directly related to that 10-2 skating style he uses. Leaves the legs vulnerable. He has to learn how to protect the legs better while using it. For example, Crosby uses it a lot. But it hasn't led to big problems for him injury-wise. I love Michkov. But now that I've learned more about Demidov as the kind of character he has, I think it will truly be a flip of a coin. There has to be some fire to the smoke that Michkov has some attitude issues. We'll find out soon, I guess!
Michkov is better, and it’s not even close. What a weak click baited video.
Am i the only one to see datsuyk when i watch demidov
Surprised about the defensive rankings, everything else I've heard/read has Demidov ahead in terms of a 2-way, 200-foot game. Interesting.
Funny part is they are exactly 364 days apart from each other in birthdays, so you have to fully consider the year.
Demigod
Demidov is better.
Both great players but give me Michkov
The guy who said Jan Mysak was going to be a stud is pumping Michkov over Demidov lol.
The people saying Michkov is way better "and not even close"
Are: 1-Leafs fans
2-Blackhawks fans still pissed off they took Levshunov over Demidov
3-Flyers fans
4-Dunno anything about hockey
Lets be clear, how many of you have watched full games or Demidov or Michkov ?
Actual NHL scouts say Demidov and Michkov is very very close.
Im a Habs fan, and i cant tell who's better because I havent seen them play enough other than highlights on YT to make a solid opinion.
All I heard is Michkov can be terrible defensively but has a crazy goal scorer potential.
Demidov has a lot more all around play to his game.
Im not sure why Grav says Michkov is better all around, lol
I think they are both crazy talented and good for the Habs and Flyers to have them
Stupid Montreal
Could have had both lol , what a dumpster fire of a franchise no matter who runs it. Kent is as dumb as bergy
Demidov is a more complete player than Michkov, weird, almost everybody is saying Demidov's defensive play is much better than Michkov.
It’s an insult to Michkov that it’s even a question right now
Michkov is the man. Shame he went to Philly. Go rags!
For me it’s between a prime
DEMIDOV : 25G 65A 90PTS
or
MICHKOV : 45G 40A 85PTS
I’d rather have Michkov and I’m a Canadiens fan. I’d even rather have a duo of Michkov-Buium or Michkov-Dickinson or Michkov-Parekh than a Demidov-Reinbacher
Demidov speaks excellent English Mitchkov don't speak a word. Can't wait to see Torts 😅
Flyers suck, Go Habs 😂
To save everyone time from someone who has watched tons of both the answer is demidov and it’s not close! Michkov might lead in offense by a hair but demidov is a WAY more complete player and its not close
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Click baited. But Michkov. By a lot. So far in their careers.
Defense Michkov? You might be the only one
That's funny, besides the fact Demidov is a better passer and Michkov a better scorer, the rest is opposite of everything I've read. I though Michkov was the most talented and has the higher upside (although they are both excellent) and that Demidov is the better all around player. I'm surprised you didn't mention the difference in size, 5'10" vs 6'1" (or just shy of..). That two and a half extra inches will certainly help in the NHL. There's also the question of attitude, although I'll admit that's hard to gauge from here and there's so much purposeful misinformation that it's really hard know for sure. Habs have good contacts in the SKA organisation and they clearly didn't like something they saw or heard about Michkov (unless they heard he wasn't interested in the Habs) and liked what they heard about Demidov. That being said, with this type of talent, they should have taken the chance and drafted both.
Demidov seems better defensively than Michkov, I somewhat agree with the rest though
I am so fucking excited to see Michkov play, I can not wait for this season.
This is another Ovechkin vs. Malkin! It’s ironic that Montreal could have drafted both !! 😮
This is to be determined! What I will tell you is that Demidov is the more complete player! Michkov is all offense, doesn’t play defense! Demidov plays a 2 way game! And hearing scouts say Demidov is the best Russian since Ovi, and compare him to Kucherov! Call me bias because I’m a Habs fan but I’d put my money in Demidov! Oh and please note, Michkov wasn’t said to be the best Russian since Ovi, nor was he compared to Kucherov!
You actually know nothing its so funny
lol. That’s funny. Bro, Michkov is generational. Just wait until the world sees this dude.
He’s the next Pavel Bure or Sergei Federov!
Is the only reason to compare them the fact that they're both Russian forwards? From what I've seen/read, they don't have particularly similar playstyles so it seems difficult to directly compare them. I'd rather compare players who are stylistically similar.