The Sabres Zone – We Need These Acquisitions
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need guys like McLoud and the other vets they picked up uh yeah Vernon I do agree with a lot of this I do want to say for the record though I am a aoy fan I am I I’m I’m a fan of what he’s going to I think he’ll become uh I do believe he he’s going to become a hell of a hockey player I do but do I believe we got so ripped off in the deal like Sabers fans no I’ve been watching hockey too long to fall for that no of course not we needed we had needs that had to be addressed or we’re in for another long season of disappointment and the truth is we got all these young studs to move some of them that’s what I think a lot of Sabers fans haven’t graas grasped the idea of yet is that we didn’t just draft these guys let’s get this right folks we did when you draft players just so you know you don’t draft them just to be on your team you draft them as assets as trade pieces I mean this is why drafting smart is important of course you have to draft and build a winner through the draft I believe I’ve said it on this channel I’ll I’ll back it right now you have to build a team through the draft okay we have we have done that we have got a lot of good pieces on this team through good trades good draft picks there’s a lot that’s going right in Buffalo guys don’t think there’s not there is there’s a lot but at at some point you got to cut the umbilical cord guys you got to let some of them go and you know I’m going to talk about that in another possible trade tonight I I there’s been rumors going on I’m going to talk about this later on I want to focus on this right now so we go and we trade one one of our top prospects maybe my favorite Prospect guys and you don’t see me panicking you guys know I was pretty much a Savoy backer and I’m one of these guys I like big physical hockey players right I like big and physical but I also like skilled I do but what Vernon’s saying here is not a lie okay it’s not a lie it’s a cold heart truth you know like when he said he’s a and a child’s body so was Danny Brier though Vernon let’s be let’s give let’s give some fairness here okay so was Danny Brier and Danny Brier was one hell of a hockey player and he had a baby face and every one hell of a hockey player right but he’s been playing in the Juniors let’s get that right and a lot of emont fans you got to remember guys they’re they’re they’re big WHL fans so they’re very familiar with the name they are as much as some of them don’t follow like we do they’re familiar they’re familiar with the territory of the WHL they’re familiar so they think they kind completely burned us before proof and uh there was a um like I went and I went and gave kind of a sarcastic comment on an Emon Channel tonight and it was like they’re talking about making fun of this trade and they’re saying McLoud couldn’t doesn’t hit for his life let’s get this clear okay let’s get the we didn’t get McLoud for hitting guys I I mean I think you guys know that right but Edmonton fans don’t seem to get that they don’t seem to understand we didn’t get McLoud Edmonton fans we didn’t get him for physical Play We addressed that already that’s addressed go look at all the moves that we’ve done Edmonton fans go look now you know why guys now you know why I never cheer for the Canadian team okay never and I never will no if if it was a team like Vancouver they’ve been so pathetic in their existence yeah probably you know I’d probably cheer for the poor old Canucks to get one of course you know but it it would have to depend who they’re playing if they were playing on a team like Florida I would had a hard time going for Vancouver CU Florida has had such a miserable existence in this league till recently till recently and you know what Florida did not have a good existence like we did we had many good great years in our history guys a lot of the kids today don’t know that like fans that aren’t fans of the Sabers don’t know that you know so what Vernon talks about here guys he he’s not ready he’s not NHL ready he could be they might toss him in the mix we’ll see this year Vernon they might they might toss him in but they’ve got him written in as like this this you know a top six guy already which is a little a little soon even I’ll say it you know how I feel I feel you can go straight from Junior to the NHL you can but when you’re not a big guy and he’s not okay and if there’s anything Adams is guilty of forget where I heard this I forget where I heard this I heard it recently and I had to agree if anything Adams is guilty of is drafting too small I think it’s one of the Buffalo channels that had talked about this and you know and I I agree with that I do agree with that I I much prefer the bigger stronger guys on a team and we’re in a league now that’s not tiny it although it showcases the tiny skill players it does but still you know look I’m I I’m going to like you know see what he becomes Soo don’t think I won’t be checking I’ll be checking I’m sure many of you will also but if this really works out with McLoud and I think it will if if this really works out with McLoud how did we go wrong really how did we go wrong then by not hanging on to a prospect that probably wouldn’t get more than bottom 6 minutes anyway I mean give me a give me what we need now you know we need now guys we’re in the now I I was the first one just two short years ago on this channel you guys would see I’d say no you know I would have been against a deal like that okay if but now that we got Lindy as coach and we’re getting more serious and it looks like we’re we’re going to be more physical this year I’m it’s hard for me to believe guys you know like oh my God we’re actually going to attempt to be physical I hear Adam’s talking about physicality maybe Adam started you know listening to some of the people out there I don’t know I hope so God Adams it’s long overdue to get some physical guys in this team we’ve been pushed around for years you know and it’s sad because a few years ago and we had all that skill going on which we still have guys let’s not let’s not forget that that team was not carried by Casey midat that team was carried by Tage Thompson you know these guys are older bigger stronger now going into this year let’s not forget these things people are saying wow we’re missing goal scoring no no we had a a bad year last year with injuries and all sorts of things come on no no we don’t like goal scoring but I’m going to talk about that in the next video tonight okay I’m going to push that video down your throat again guys so we had to make this deal the way I see it we have to go we have to move forward we can’t keep being scared to not make moves even if they hurt even if they hurt if it’s going to help now guys now do you guys want to wait another year for the playoffs I sure as hell don’t really I don’t want to wait another year if I have to I will I’m a stubborn fan I will I don’t think we’re going to have to I think we’re going to get in this year and I think we’re going to get in with some ease I think we’ll make the playoffs by like 10 points or something I don’t think it’s going to be you know a roller coaster of emotions but no one the Sabers will do this to us they’ll be right down the stretch and we’ll just get in you know but I’m hoping that the Sabers just have a nice comfortable ledge you know with a few weeks left and we know we’re getting in we feel good about it and everything’s okay and as long as we’re healthy guys as long as we’re healthy who knows what can happen in the playoffs anything can happen in the playoffs this is why in this day and age especially it’s that damn important to get in it really is it’s not like back in the 70s and 80s you get in and you know you just hope something maybe transpires and you you hope somebody else knocks off one of the big boys for you before before you got to advance you know that’s what you’re hoping back in the day it’s not like that now you know now it’s like the 16th seed can win the Stanley Cup that gets in with a little luck a little aggression and we just seen guys the Florida Panthers win the Stanley Cup let’s not forget look what’s going on since for us fans let’s just look at the last seven years we’ve seen the St Louis Blues break through we’ve seen the Washington Capitals break through we seen the Florida Panthers break through and unfortunately we seen the Vegas Vegas gold Knights win their first anley cup as well but for the Vegas thing I think over there this year they’re going to hurt we’re going to see what their fans are really made of over there this year because I don’t think they’re going to have a comfortable season like they’re anticipating over there I seen some Vegas fans talking about Victor Olson on the first line I’m like okay good luck you know we’ll see what happens there but and and you know I think all of us could live with missing the Playoffs the next 15 years if we got in won the Stanley Cup and missed the playoffs the next 15 years after I don’t think any of us will be complaining that’s how tough we are as Buffalo fans we just want some success we want to live some moment we want to have something special in our lives happen with this team right and I think guys we have the nucleus we have the depth we have the pipeline we have the general manager unfortunately for some of you that don’t think so I think we have the general manager and now I think we have the coach to get this done to get something done and um you know if the Sabres got in this year and I think they’re going to I could see seven 10 to 10 playoff wins is kind of what I’m hoping for you know that’s where I’m where that’s where I’m at I think we’re winning the first round no matter what no matter who we play it would be nice though to play Florida in the first round guys that would be a treat for us because I tell you what there’d be no pressure on the sabers and the entire hockey Community will be cheering for us so we’ll see there all right so look the Vernon this was a good topic you know we we have to talk a little bit more about the uh you know our our feel about it and and Vernon expressed how he felt he felt like this was an undersized prospect that we just moved out and and it’s nothing really to panic about and in reality he’s right also you know as much as I like this Prospect I agree with him also like we have to look at it for what it is now we have to be like cold emotionally and say you know what did we address some needs that cuz that’s what the bottom line what matters guys did we address some needs yes we did now how will this work out I don’t know maybe it’ll work out better than we were even hoping if he gets 20 to 25 goals this year I think we’re all going to be saying scratching your head saying my God how did Adams pull this one off because I’ll tell you what there’s no way SEO would come into the lineup give us 20 25 goals this year guys not this year you know maybe in 3 years but right now when when seavoy fills out we’ll see we’ll see how that uh you know that pans out in Emon we’re going to know because we’re going to see him playing with Conor McDavid eventually so we’ll see and there’s no excuse for his production not to be 50% more if he’s playing on a line with McDavid right so all right guys done for this one see you in the night C be sure to like subscribe and hit the notification Bell to ensure Dimension access [Music]
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31 Comments
I tend to agree.. Adams does draft well, but they are all skilled guys. Other teams get physical guys in later rounds but we still seem to find quality skilled players there to. That's good in a way, but we need the balance too. Adams is still learning and there are things in the last year that he's been guilty of that he's showing that he's learned.. 1 the need for physical players and 2. We are loaded with skilled forwards in our prospect pool that we will never have room for all of them.. and 3. His achilles heel up until this year… he's gotten to attached to some of the players.. laster years UFA resigns showed that.. Okposo should have been left to walk last year… His move of Middlestadt mid-season(great trade) all he talked about was that Casey being a good friend… GM's can't get tied up in being a Friend or having favorites.. got back to watching the movie Little Big League… the kid owned the team and as was pointed out to him… you can't afford to be a fan when in management… Kevin has been guilty of being friends with the commodities of his sport. He's breaking that and the moves of Casey, Kyle and now Matt show he's finally broken that. the only problem now is… I can't wait for the season to start (in part because our temps until about opening day will be in the triple digits… gotta love Phoenix) to see this team he's put together and added back in Lindy…
I agree wholeheartedly Wayne. Although I like many wished for a blockbuster move after the draft, I have faith in the moves we HAVE made and am super sick of the negative vibes coming from our "fellow fans"
Savoie is much like Benson, not huge but plays bigger than his physical stature. He will do well in oil town, good luck to him. But they are all assets, about time Adams dealt a prospect, I have said for a while that the longer these guys languish in Rochester they lose their value as an asset.
Savoie reminds me of the next Tyler Ennis. Small, fast and skilled but his lack of size never allowed him to be any better than a middle-six forward. He had a very nice career overall, but he wasn't a star by any stretch of the imagination. I see the same future as a best-case scenario for Savoie.
Took all the words right out of my mouth! Thank God you have this channel Wayne. Someone amongst Sabres fans needs to be saying all of this and I can’t stand being on camera lol. Our fans need to reflect on how we can become better fans. Watching your videos is a great start.
Darcy would have got better value. Trade needed to be made, absolutely, but Savoie is a hell of a hockey player. The entire league is laughing at us for giving up a Top 10 pick, a future stud, for a 3rd liner. It's as bad as any Tim Murray trade imo.
IMO Edmonton screwed themselves by resigning the old guys , Henrique & Perry and letting Fogele and Macleod leave. Their loss is our gain😊
Adams needed a third line centre who is fast ,can kill penalties and is good on faceoffs and Macleod perfectly fits that bill! I love how Adams has rebuilt the Sabres bottom 6 this summer , as well as the addition of Calgary D man Dennis Gilbert who also brings some grit & toughness! The bottom 6 forward group is now FAST& TOUGH instead of SLOW & SOFT! And yes I definitely think the Sabres will easily make the playoffs next spring. Thanks for the video Wayne, hope your back feels better soon .
Vernon is just trying hard to cope with trading Savoie, he's worried he'll be good. I'm still happy because we need to win now, and only so many roster spots for prospects to earn.
Just odd that addams changed his philosophy so much. He wanted the no defense and no hitting team that just out scores everyone. Now he was a hitting team that is hard to play against. Dont get me wrong id rather be tough and hit but just odd he changed so fast.
I just miss RJ so much, I can deal with the playoff drought if I could only hear him announce.
It’s really sad just looking at what the doughy has done to these so called “fans” of the Sabres.
Absolutely correct. We draft some players as trade pieces if the need arises. This season will be exciting.
We traded potential offense for guaranteed defense. McCleod is an elite defensive forward. We already have a guy similar to Savoie on the team. Benson is a similar skillset. He outplayed Savoie when they played together in juniors and Benson is a more physical player. I'm really liking the way this roster is shaping up. Coming out of the lockout the Sabres were projected to be a bottom feeder team. We saw what Lindy did then. I don't think this team is built too different from that team.
Savoie got what, 5 points in his first 6 AHL games? Not sure we can call the AHLers little children. Not sure why people are now turning to badmouthing Savoie to try and make people feel better lol. That's just as bad as complaining about dumb stuff.
We aren't talking about Gerbe here. I think Savoie is actually a little bigger than Danny B.
You are bang on. We got him because he addresses several things Adams mentioned on the last seasons exit interviews. He wanted defensive minded players, this guy is that in spades. He has the speed to make the defense slip up on offence and his speed is what got him the 97% defensive prowess. I'm sure Ruff had input in all the signings/trades.
I wonder if how konsta holaneus looked in camp may have made the Savoie trade easier
I have no problem trading prosects. My issue is that the Sabres always lose in their trades. If they do win a trade which is rare, the player wants out almost immediately.
A “what if” lineup… Think of the Centers ahead of McLeod, in Edmonton. Yet he still got 15 a night. Do we know how good he really is? What his ceiling really is?
Peterka – McLeod – Thompson
Quinn – Cozens – Tuch
Zucker – Benson – Greenway
Malenstyn – Lafferty – Aube-Kubel
Byram – Dahlin
Power – Jokijarju
Samuelsson – Clifton
UPL
Levi
Just remember that the 2006-2007 team that went on to win the Presidents Trophy was coached by Ruff and was built on Speed and toughness.
Not saying this team will do more than make the playoffs and make some noise, but I and seeing a lot of similarities now that some of these players have been brought it.
If UPL and Levi can combine for what Miller did that year, we should be in great shape.
Im all for a more physical team and tough to play against and all that. If our big guns dont show up for 75% or more of the season, it'll be 14 yrs of no playoffs. The Atlantic division is still too good to just coast into the post-season playing .500 hockey……….AND a big part of that is WINNING HOME GAMES!!!!! 👍👍
Yea down the one side all our players are like 5ft 11 ish. And all of our winger/centers in the ahl are just about all 5ft10/5ft11
Hate to rain on everyone’s parade, but Edmonton fans and most neutrals are scratching their heads at this trade. I think we are valuing McLeod WAY more than anyone else.
Let us also mention that the player Adams traded a second for immediately filed gor salary arbitration. You think that might have come up in the trade negotiations, “Oh, by the way, he is looking for X$, which we will not pay so good luck with that. Thanks for the Second.”
The Sabre's, or rather Adams, time is ticking away. After 5 years at the helm and no playoffs, I would think everyone on the team and in the pipeline is expendable, save for a couple of guys.
I don't mind trading players like Savoie to get an edge. However, trading Middelstadt, and buying out Skinner without replacing a top 6 forward is nuts. Hopefully Coach Ruff can turn this around.
#48 ,Sabre or Flyer what a player that would stink if Savoie equalled his talent ,but il take this team we have to keep Upl Adams knows how to pick players he's no dummie😊
Savioe looks 5’6” in person on skates no more midgets
McLeod had 27 hits in 24 playoff games this year, Buffalo forwards didn’t have 27 hits on the season of 82 games lol. Mittelstadt had 11 hits, Skinner 20 something all season.
McLeod makes 2.1 million, if he doesn’t work out who cares, we can just call up Rosen, Kulich or someone else. Guys act like we just traded for a guy with 8-10 mill cap hit. The GM took a chance on McLeod who just played in finals and had 3 goals in 7 games, Matthews and Marner can’t even get 3 goals in a playoff year lol
Florida panthers won the cup because of amazing trades.
Savoie disappointed me in the Memorial Cup – did nothing of importance. I have no problem at all with this deal – wait 3+ years for Savoie to grow up? No, no time for that.
Savoie is a top prospect indeed, but still not a Sabres regular liner.
I dont think we should keep banking on prospect to much longer. We need to make some moves that improve our roster matching our strategy and game plan right now on this moment!
We still have some good prospects and talents in our pool but i feel its time to step up now with more experience, toughness and overall balance between our lines.
Still i would love to see him stay as a full Sabre and skate a full season with us.
Thanx for the video Wayne!
A pleasure as always 🙂
Keep up the great work and lots of happiness, health and luck with the upcoming powerforward!
Congrats!