Detroit got better on the margins by signing Cam Talbot, Erik Gustafsson, Christian Fischer and a flurry of AHL caliber players today, possibly opening the door for the much coveted youth movement. But whiffing on big impact veterans such as Steven Stamkos to compliment said youth could also result on a slide back from their previous season point total, an Yzerman Era first. But at the same time, we are glad he held steadfast on some offers, as the deals handed out on day one were egregious. #LGRW
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34 Comments
I'm glad that it looks like a few GR guys are finally ready to make the jump.
If we want to sign Raymond and Seider to long term deals, we only have about $5m-$6m wiggle room. I think every redwings fans would rather sign those contracts than any of the free agents signed yesterday. We weren’t getting Stamkos anyways.
A full season of Kane and post Larkin injury Raymond … A full season of Edvinsson… hopefully a full season of a starting goalie. We could easily be slightly to much better in all areas without crippling ourselves. And maybe we can trade holl and a goalie and make more moves still.
I feel like the red wings are kinda like the back to work pistons at this point. They're good enough to win but will they. Nothing real flashy but maybe the plan is to jump off the team takes off and catch teams looking to unload to really make a leap forward. All the moves are good. They improve the team. That's all I ever ask is make the team better without spending the bank. Also not unloading the farm system.
I'm really ok with relying heavily on our youth because I'd like to see were we are with them finally see how they can be than just signing a butt load of veterans. We're not in a cup window anyway. Just take a risk and see how they'll do
F this team.. running back a weaker roster than last season.
Kane’s gotta be pissed already with how it’s looking
Playoff bonus?😂
If you include Raymond, JFV, And Berggren, the Wings have 11 forwards. You are talking about one spot that a rookie could take. Maybe they sign someone, maybe they trade for someone, maybe its 1 rookie. Why are we talking like there will be 10 rookies on this team?
There are 9 NHL D signed and 4 NHL Goalies. I feel like a trade is coming, but even if it doesn't, this isn't a rookie laden roster.
Probably no trades until Mo and Raymond resigned and we know the numbers.
What I want is for us to have signed one more top six forward and zero bottom six. Let the kids play in the bottom six but I do not want to watch another carousel of trying to figure out who that fourth winger is in the top lines
Chandler got about 6.5 mil. for about 60 points. Wings would've had to pay over 7 mil. by the time the dust settled. The haters would have sccreamed about paying for crazy contracts. So hate if you sign…hate if you dont.
I’m not upset that Yzerman couldn’t get a good deal from these free agents, I’m upset that he cap dumped Walman with an asset for no reason. If he wasn’t going to get deals from the market, then what’s the point of dumping Walman?
In case nobody has figured it out yet, Steve is an ultra-conservative GM. I would be absolutely shocked to ever see any big splash moves from him going forward until the Wings are in their contention window…
I am glad we didn't throw out money like it's candy. We addressed goal tending again so hopefully it's better than last year. We added some defense so hopefully that will help our tandem, whoever it may be. Am disappointed we didn't address our scoring problem
I think it is pretty unfair to assess things now. That Trouba trade hold up really messed things up. That could’ve helped if a bad contract was shipped back. That situation handcuffed both the Rangers and us from an early splash. Seen possible scenarios where it was Trouba and Kakko possibly. Wouldn’t be opposed to that. But, Trouba if the Wings haven’t washed their hands of the situation pushes other moves to the right time wise. Ekblad could be in play too. Patience might be in order to fully evaluate here.
Anyone still blindly defending Yzerman and the Yzerplan please take your beer goggles off. The cope is hard for a lot of fans for this team. We waited 5 years for yesterday and we GOT WORSE. 😂
People forgot, players have to want to play in Detroit, it's not a video game 😂 Plenty of teams over spent .
The math probably doesn’t work, but a Necas trade is still possible. Although, the rumors aren’t there. Last summer, it was all but a certainty that DeBrincat was coming to Detroit.
I think Detroit’s signings can be graded at a Meh- . However, I think Yzerman is still going to make moves.
Detroit has the #2 prospect pipeline but nobody wants to play the kids. What? We are not close to beating the Florida Panthers.
Yzerman wants an improvement on team defense. Detroit is a better defensive team today than a year ago. That is the goal or Newsy is gone.
It’s ok to play the kids and miss the playoff. It’s a rebuild.
Kane is the ONLY thing I care about on this team.
Kane and Talbot are good signings. The rest were like shopping at the Dollar store…….bought a lot of stuff but not much is quality. These signings represent a great opportunity for the "young guns" to win a job with the Wings. I hope this was Steve's intent.
Guys STEVE he’s doing the best he can. Be Happy . We see how the season go. Let’s give chance.
Wings need at least 1 more PHYSICAL Winger…who loves to hit ! 😊
Boring off season. Not going to make the playoffs again and the team still has no grit. Boring off season and a boring team.
It' s obvious no top.notch free agent was coming here. Who they signed was did not amount to much and right now on paper the roster is weaker than last summer.
Sure they signed Kane but despite his comeback last season can he hold up over a full schedule? His camp likely saw the lack of enthusiasm for him so he stayed.
What they lost in trades and free agents leaving is more of a problem.
I am content with what we have done in free agency so far as long as there is something still brewing, no word yet on the trouba trade or nechas, I haven't seen him signing with Carolina yet and they made a lot of signings yesterday
We didn't get better at all we 8.5 mil in 4 Goalies that r avg at best WTF we did not need another left hand defense he a cheaper version of walman makes know sense. You keep your 2 worse defense Holl and Petry. You got Kane and Fisher back with is great but know else. Steve has put this team farther behind with not sign good FA the last 3yrs. The only thing he has done good is drafting. I think it time to stop giving Steve a pass
In my opinion we need a 2nd line center a top 6 winger and a reliable D man im glad that he didn't over pay i like stam but not at 8 mil per year we have a log jam in GR it's time to bring them up and see what we really have and see if they are good or its time to move them out
I like the goaltending better than last year. Talbot’s numbers are good. Don’t remember him frequently being injured historically. Two years isn’t that bad. Might trade out Husso’s contract hopefully or waive him. Don’t think anyone would claim Campbell so could send him to GR if it isn’t a one way deal.
I’m so tired of the apologists for Stevie Y, he’s not what fans expected when he became the G.M. Time to move on.
There are two things to consider here. First, the elephants in the room. Ray and Mo don't have contracts yet. Stevie did say this would affect what we can do in FA, as money needed to be left for them under the cap. Second, do you remember all the complaining from folks last year about how we signed way too many vets instead of promoting the kids? Yeah… I do. I think we're promoting the kids, and many of these two-way contracts are taking the places of kids in GR.
I would've loved to land Stamkos and/or Marchy, but I think the writing was on the wall last season, when we signed all those vets.
alex was fine last year, we didnt have a goaltender to help him out
Obviously, the deals are not finished. Yzerman decided that the trade route was the smarter way to improve the club after hearing what his targets were going to get. He was not going to give Stamkos 8M over 4 years. Marchessault would have been a possibility for what he got, but he chose Nashville. Roy was an overpayment, Stephenson was an overpayment. Here's what I'm seeing:
A full off-season with Kane working with linemates should equal or improve his stats.
Ghost was huge on the PP, but a liability defensively 5 on 5. Gustafsson should improve the defensive aspect and could help on the PP.
Edvinsson is an improvement at LD. Johansson is ready to step in and often was talked about as the most important player at GR. Walman was scratched last year a couple times before he got hurt.
Like bringing back Fischer.
Perron was great in the locker room, but took far too many stupid penalties in the 3rd period last year. The hope is that a Berggren could make up for the offensive aspect of Perron's game and is faster to help on the defensive end.
Getting Rasmussen back should help with the net front.
Mazur and Kasper should get a shot to help out.
What I see possibly happening:
Husso and at least one LD either traded or bought out. I could also see someone like Fabbri packaged, mainly because he is making $4M a year, and as it looks will probably be a 4th liner. Yzerman shipped out Kostin last year because he was making $2M on the 4th line. If Copp is traded, they will have to retain some salary. Could see Detroit being in on Necas,, Zegras or Laine. (That's my preference in order).
Defensively, they should be better. Still need to find some offense.
This is the first time I have ever lost confidence in Yzerman. We are worse now then last year.
Brian stop the rant please, your point is well made. Yzerman did good by avoiding the manic spending of FA. Remember there is still a trade market. Some of these bad contracts will come home to roost.
I want to do people realize CAM TALBOT is the first goaltender that was an All-Star the previous season that the Red Wings have signed in the off-season since Dominik Hasek in 2002?!😅.. that's just WILD when you think about it..