[LeBrun] Kuemper traded for Pierre-Luc Dubois
Hearing Kings and Caps finalizing a trade involving Pierre-Luc Dubois and Darcy Kuemper
— Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) June 19, 2024
by HowardBunnyColvin
@Washington Capitals
[LeBrun] Kuemper traded for Pierre-Luc Dubois
Hearing Kings and Caps finalizing a trade involving Pierre-Luc Dubois and Darcy Kuemper
— Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) June 19, 2024
by HowardBunnyColvin
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I wanted Kuemper to succeed here and he actually was solid his first year here but his struggles his 2nd year cemented his fate.
Um
Didn’t think the Caps would find a taker for DK…but we’re taking on one of the worst contracts in the league. To say PLD has been a disappointment, is an understatement. Dude built like a truck but plays soft. Hope he can re-find his game.
So we basically traded a shitty contract for an even shittier contract? wtf, Maclellan?
LMFAOOOOO
But… why
what the fuck?
Eh? This a joke?
Did CapFriendly help with this trade? Good lord that is a terrible trade
It’s Wikipedia official.
That’s not how you spell marner
Is it too early to start drinking? JFC
Didn’t think we could trade Kuemper and be the team to get fleeced
so what’s everyone thinking on a backup? bring in Shep? sign someone?
Dubois has an extremely cheap buyout until June 24. Cap hit would be $1.1m per year until 2038. Don’t rule it out.
caps made it official.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Kuemper straight up sucked and was unusable, and he’s signed for another 3 years at 5.25 per year. Meanwhile PLD is at least a 45-65 point per season guy and can slide into the top center spot. It was our biggest need last season and we just solved it. How is this a bad trade for us?
On the one hand, I can see some sense. PLD was a bad match in LA, he was fighting for 3C even before Byfield started to emerge this year. He could be a clear 1C here. Maybe that gets his ass into gear.
On the other hand, he’s a third-time reclamation project who hasn’t played like a 1C anywhere along the line and has a truly awful contract for that level of production. Not like Caps really need to worry about cap space, but the best case scenario is being in the murky middle of the league for years, and the worst is his contract getting in the way of new deals for upcoming talent in 5-6 years.
I get why people are shocked. I get why people don’t love this trade.
However, it’s definitely not as bad as people are making it out to be.
PLD has 7 years on his contract.
Kuemper had another 3 on his.
The effective difference is ~3 million extra for a 1C instead of a backup goalie. For those three years, after that his NMC becomes a 15-team NTC, then 10-team NTC. 8.5 mil will be nothing with how the cap is going up.
It’s a high-risk, high-reward play.
If he can find his offensive prowess again, this is actually a huge win.
Ovie – PLD – Willy
All 6’3″+, all 220lbs+. Gonna be a heavy fucking line.
Carbs got Mantha going, maybe he can get PLD going too. Maybe I’m just coping, but I’m cautiously optimistic about this.
What
PLD made it one year in LA. He’ll make it one in Washington too.
I’m all for finding a taker for Kuemper’s contract, and I know Dubois is not very old. He’s also quickly worn out his welcome in 3 different cities the last few years.
Hopefully, Carbury can motivate him and sprinkle some magic dust like he did with Mantha.
My gut reaction is that the Front Office is seeing this as we’re trading a backup keeper with a bad contract for a 1st / 2nd liner who has potential to fill, and they think the extra 2 years and $3M/ year will be worth it.
It’s hard to get excited now but you just never know. There’s a great player in there from his Columbus and Winnipeg days; let’s hope we get that guy back and motivated.
Guys… you don’t just rob teams when getting rid of your bad contracts…
We get rid of our problem, and we try to fix someone else’s problem or we’ll be at this conversation in a couple years…
But yeah the overcorrection mistake of getting off Sammy and vitek is done now…
I’m going to be delusional and say Carbery can fix him. Mantha 2.0?
Well I hope coach carbs can turn this guys lazy ass into the player he’s paid to be. Judging from what he got out of this team this season, I’m a teeny-tiny bit optimistic it can work out.
LOTS of potential. Maybe playing with OVI will ignite some of that. If he has a Strome like resurgence it will be a steal
https://youtu.be/_qVfzJz8GKE?si=5lPPhr3GmXb10onC
Just found this video of him what the hell?
And this exchange between him and Torts
https://youtu.be/Cns1Za4S8uw?si=D5qlYpU0a5ol5YcT
He’s only 25, I like this move
I’ll try to be optimistic, but it’s not exactly what I was hoping for. I do think DK getting a fresh start and giving HS and CS a chance to play is probably better for the organization overall.
I do wonder if them taking on this kind of contract gives any hints as to what Oshie might be thinking. If he retires, I think the risk/reward on this a lot looks a lot better.
Best case scenario PLD returns somewhat back to form. Worst case, we have another Kuzy situation on our hands.
This trade is actually genius. If it doesn’t work out. Dubois is a perfect tank commander and leader for the future.
This is fantastic. Did you guys all forget how bad Keumper was the last 2 seasons?
Did you also forget that we lost our 1C and 2C? How are any of you mad?
Okay, the cap hit is obviously brutal, but this is exactly the type of player management has said they’re looking for. Young, potentially impactful, didn’t cost futures.
The cap hit sucks tremendously, but we’re out from under Backstrom, Kuzy, Mantha, and now Kuemper’s contracts. We DO have some money to gamble with and I guess that’s what we’re doing.
So are the Caps going to bring up Shepard, bring up Stevenson, make another trade, or try to acquire a free agent?
Dubois is going to be an even more overpaid Kuznetsov
This is the ONLY way we were getting out of that Kempuer deal. PLD adds to this team, period. The only question is how much does he add? Kempuer added nothing to this team, there was no question about that.
The cap is going up this season, and we technically only added like 3.5 mil to our cap. What’s to hate right now?
We added a 25 year old center (potentially 1C), using only 3.25mil/year more of our ample cap space (PLD contract minus DKs) and opened up an opportunity for Shepard/Stevenson (both at $775k contracts). That means with Oshie on the roster (he won’t LTIR) that we still have money to pursue one more big player.
I hope we just landed a top six player instead of a longer Mantha contract. It’s a risk as most have pointed out, but with cap rising a few million each year moving forward this contract could age well in terms of % of cap hit if he’s top 6 into his 30s or could age poorly if he’s terrible.
We have 7 (or 8) Centers who could be on the opening day roster: PLD, Strome, McM, Sgarbossa, Dowd, (Protas?) Laps, & Frank (Hershey). Could Sgarbossa or Dowd now be used in a trade?
Let GM BMaC cook and judge him at the end of free agency. I could see him trying to clear out some of our D-men (we have 7 under contract with Iorio making a push to be with the Caps next pre-season). We’ll know how they feel about Haman-Aktell if they re-sign him which makes 9 total.
This is not how you spell ‘Got rid of Jensen’.
Honestly, this could help Ovie break the record, so I’m here for it (until I’m not)
Good trade, we needed offense, while we had nothing to offer. This way we lost our most useless asset with terrible contract, while we gained offense. Yeah PLD isn’t ideal, he gives zero shit about hockey and has gargantuan contract, but most of his contract is in our rebuild years, so in worst case he will help us, to collect high draft picks. In best case he can be big piece for last dance
Is this guy Mantha 2.0?
Honestly this is a win for us even with his dog shit contract. Kuemper leaving is addition by subtraction in and of itself
There’s no way PLD will be able to come in and have an attitude problem or lack of effort. Carbery won’t have that. And the players on the team already won’t have it.
This is actually a good situation for him. There’s really no pressure on him. Just play hockey and give effort
Too much of a passer /deferring in LA. I like the risk
I would’ve been happy for them to get any C in the entire league for Kuemper. Getting one with a high ceiling is icing on the cake
Well, at least he’s only 25 years old, and loves to pass the puck. We’ve needed a playmaker for a while now. Apparently, he has character issues, so we’ll have to deal with that.
Basically, he seems to be a younger Kuzy.
Does this have implications for the C we currently have? If so, who is going to go?
I can’t help but think this was a move to hit the cap floor going forward too. They take a big contract and a big gamble on a young forward that could pop off. Worst comes to worst, they have a contract that allows them to hit the cap floor and rebuild in the post Ovi years. Just look at Chicago. Was Perry and Foligno worth 4 million? Absolutely not.
Good. Never liked him, so overrated.