Good to try something else because Gustasfsson-Trouba is probably at best a bottom 2 D pairing left in the playoffs
JPmoneyman
Tommybrady20
When you have the opportunity to take your one bad pair and make it 2 bad pairs you just HAVE to do it
JPmoneyman
Miller Schneider has been our best pairing outside of last game where no one really played well. Not a fan of this move. The issue is Trouba and Gus are turnover machines when they get pressured in the D zone, not sure how spreading that out makes anyone better.
Tommybrady20
Is he trying to do the impossible and go from the literal messiah to “*idk start the clock of 12 months till he’s probably fired*” within a 2 week span
Inspiring stuff
adsason
On one hand I hate it as miller/troub is a big downgrade from miller/schneider, on the other hand, on the road, you can’t shelter trouba/gustasfson – so perhaps the mindset is to have a more balanced 3 pairs so Aho doesn’t cave in Trouba/gustafson.
Obviously the easily solution on paper is to get Zac jones in there for Trouba or Gustafson – but we know that won’t happen.
NYM32
So now not only are they not putting Jones in the lineup, but they’re also going to severely weaken K’Andre Miller, who’s been NYR’s best defenseman in this series
Anybody with half a brain could tell you that Miller/Trouba has been one of, if not, NYR’s worst D pair in the last 2 years and yet here we are rolling out this bullshit again
When anybody tries to go full on argument from authority fallacy and say “do you think you know more than the coach?” you can just point to things like this
Tommybrady20
Rod can’t line match his best line against Trouba everytime now if all 3 D pairs are under performing
groovystreet40
Trouba Gus has been getting caved in, they had to switch things up
iceturtles
Gotta trust the coach
The-Pigeon-Man
We’re really doing silly things aren’t we
Dig-Duglett
it’s over
groovystreet40
They won like 50 games with these pairings everyone please relax
Stonewall30NY
Oh God please no, trouba Miller pairing was responsible for the majority of our regular season losses. Just fuckin bench trouba, don’t drag Miller down with him. Also gust and Schneider is going to be great defensively but they’re going to give you nothing offensively
useless-factoid
Maleficent-Comfort-2
Oh we are sooo cooked.
memeaste
Unless this is a sneaky move by Lav and he knows something we don’t, I’m worried
pizza_nightmare
Jones more than proved himself when he was given the opportunity this season. Dude is tough and has what it takes. Kinda annoyed by this but it’s out of our control
cha-cha_dancer
Hopefully this doesn’t backfire spectacularly
jkman61494
JFC Ok. Can someone get Gallant the fuck out of the arena please? Lav here is just showing his cards that he’s just another retread old school coach who refuses to see reality.
In all seriousness, Miller/Schneider should be the #1 pair now. Fox is hurt. Lindgren can’t make up for it.
79/4 IS the tandem we need.
Sadly…… I really really REALLY fear this season will be undone because our coach couldn’t make the tough decision to sit Trouba because of the whole old school belief you can’t bench a captain.
Trouba (and Lindgren) have been awful…AWFUL at zone exits. What’s the best thing Zac Jones does? Zone exits.
We already got an 11 game sample size that our best 6 man unit all year was 23/55 79/4 and 56/6.
But Lav at the end of the day is too old school and won’t do what’s best for the team.
And giving a dude who has been on the ice for 80% of the goals against MORE responsibility may likely be our undoing.
Tommybrady20
This really gets me heated. And I’m gonna be a dooomer for a quick second if you don’t mind. I could pretty easily be convinced in Miller- Schnieder being leaned on more and more as we go in the playoffs to take us to the promised land. But now…
Fox- Hurt and has been zapped of pretty much everything that makes him special. Hoping for a miracle recovery on the fly in the middle of the most physical hockey of his life.
Lindgren- not good or fast enough to shelter Fox’s limitations and flaws right now
Miller- Good / borderline great but he’s now on babysit the boat anchor duty.
Trouba- the aforementioned boat anchor
Schnieder- good/ borderline great but now is somehow rewarded with likely less minutes and a fringe 6th D man partner
Gus- replacement level
*…Does that sound like a D core that’s winning a cup?*
phloyd77
If trouba wasn’t wearing the C he’d be paired with the bench. He has been on the ice for how many of the goals scored against us in this series? 75%?
Tommybrady20
Hey remember that three week stretch towards the regular season when the rangers played the best defensive hockey they’ve played in a decade?
*Jacob Trouba was not playing due to injury *
gymedmfan12
I knew the fan reaction to this was going to be something else
MacPhisto__
Oh my god
chickichuglette
Lav is not above showing one lineup in practice then playing a different one in the game
Zero-jiggler
jahauser
Lav has been pretty clear all season that when he starts to see a few loses he will mix things up. This isn’t surprising at all.
PeteyG89
Considering one would think Jones is gonna be one of the teams top 6 dmen going into next season, and seeing how good hes been playing and getting breakouts, its infuriating hes not getting some minutes. Idk if the staff watches film, how can you watch Trouba and Gus, and Lindgren to an extent in his own zone, and not see this team has a massive problem?
Im so sick of hockey coaches pandering to veterans and higher paid players over younger guys. It makes no fucking sense. AV did is in 2015-16 season towards the end he kept putting out 39 year old dinosaur Dan Boyle out on defense getting cooked OVER AND OVER AND OVER until…the season ended. I forgot if it was Raphael Diaz or Nick Holden the team had, but either of them were way more competent in skating and playing defense at the time than Dan Boyle was. But once again nothing will change as all these NHL coaches get recycled by every team in the league.
nyrangerfan1
Oh man, have some of you tried tweeting Laviolette yet?
“Hey, sure you are a Stanley Cup winning coach and have taken more teams to the playoffs than anyone else, but my stats cards tell me that you should actually be putting in Jones.”
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Good to try something else because Gustasfsson-Trouba is probably at best a bottom 2 D pairing left in the playoffs
When you have the opportunity to take your one bad pair and make it 2 bad pairs you just HAVE to do it
Miller Schneider has been our best pairing outside of last game where no one really played well. Not a fan of this move. The issue is Trouba and Gus are turnover machines when they get pressured in the D zone, not sure how spreading that out makes anyone better.
Is he trying to do the impossible and go from the literal messiah to “*idk start the clock of 12 months till he’s probably fired*” within a 2 week span
Inspiring stuff
On one hand I hate it as miller/troub is a big downgrade from miller/schneider, on the other hand, on the road, you can’t shelter trouba/gustasfson – so perhaps the mindset is to have a more balanced 3 pairs so Aho doesn’t cave in Trouba/gustafson.
Obviously the easily solution on paper is to get Zac jones in there for Trouba or Gustafson – but we know that won’t happen.
So now not only are they not putting Jones in the lineup, but they’re also going to severely weaken K’Andre Miller, who’s been NYR’s best defenseman in this series
Anybody with half a brain could tell you that Miller/Trouba has been one of, if not, NYR’s worst D pair in the last 2 years and yet here we are rolling out this bullshit again
When anybody tries to go full on argument from authority fallacy and say “do you think you know more than the coach?” you can just point to things like this
Rod can’t line match his best line against Trouba everytime now if all 3 D pairs are under performing
Trouba Gus has been getting caved in, they had to switch things up
Gotta trust the coach
We’re really doing silly things aren’t we
it’s over
They won like 50 games with these pairings everyone please relax
Oh God please no, trouba Miller pairing was responsible for the majority of our regular season losses. Just fuckin bench trouba, don’t drag Miller down with him. Also gust and Schneider is going to be great defensively but they’re going to give you nothing offensively
Oh we are sooo cooked.
Unless this is a sneaky move by Lav and he knows something we don’t, I’m worried
Jones more than proved himself when he was given the opportunity this season. Dude is tough and has what it takes. Kinda annoyed by this but it’s out of our control
Hopefully this doesn’t backfire spectacularly
JFC Ok. Can someone get Gallant the fuck out of the arena please? Lav here is just showing his cards that he’s just another retread old school coach who refuses to see reality.
In all seriousness, Miller/Schneider should be the #1 pair now. Fox is hurt. Lindgren can’t make up for it.
79/4 IS the tandem we need.
Sadly…… I really really REALLY fear this season will be undone because our coach couldn’t make the tough decision to sit Trouba because of the whole old school belief you can’t bench a captain.
Trouba (and Lindgren) have been awful…AWFUL at zone exits. What’s the best thing Zac Jones does? Zone exits.
We already got an 11 game sample size that our best 6 man unit all year was 23/55 79/4 and 56/6.
But Lav at the end of the day is too old school and won’t do what’s best for the team.
And giving a dude who has been on the ice for 80% of the goals against MORE responsibility may likely be our undoing.
This really gets me heated. And I’m gonna be a dooomer for a quick second if you don’t mind. I could pretty easily be convinced in Miller- Schnieder being leaned on more and more as we go in the playoffs to take us to the promised land. But now…
Fox- Hurt and has been zapped of pretty much everything that makes him special. Hoping for a miracle recovery on the fly in the middle of the most physical hockey of his life.
Lindgren- not good or fast enough to shelter Fox’s limitations and flaws right now
Miller- Good / borderline great but he’s now on babysit the boat anchor duty.
Trouba- the aforementioned boat anchor
Schnieder- good/ borderline great but now is somehow rewarded with likely less minutes and a fringe 6th D man partner
Gus- replacement level
*…Does that sound like a D core that’s winning a cup?*
If trouba wasn’t wearing the C he’d be paired with the bench. He has been on the ice for how many of the goals scored against us in this series? 75%?
Hey remember that three week stretch towards the regular season when the rangers played the best defensive hockey they’ve played in a decade?
*Jacob Trouba was not playing due to injury *
I knew the fan reaction to this was going to be something else
Oh my god
Lav is not above showing one lineup in practice then playing a different one in the game
Lav has been pretty clear all season that when he starts to see a few loses he will mix things up. This isn’t surprising at all.
Considering one would think Jones is gonna be one of the teams top 6 dmen going into next season, and seeing how good hes been playing and getting breakouts, its infuriating hes not getting some minutes. Idk if the staff watches film, how can you watch Trouba and Gus, and Lindgren to an extent in his own zone, and not see this team has a massive problem?
Im so sick of hockey coaches pandering to veterans and higher paid players over younger guys. It makes no fucking sense. AV did is in 2015-16 season towards the end he kept putting out 39 year old dinosaur Dan Boyle out on defense getting cooked OVER AND OVER AND OVER until…the season ended. I forgot if it was Raphael Diaz or Nick Holden the team had, but either of them were way more competent in skating and playing defense at the time than Dan Boyle was. But once again nothing will change as all these NHL coaches get recycled by every team in the league.
Oh man, have some of you tried tweeting Laviolette yet?
“Hey, sure you are a Stanley Cup winning coach and have taken more teams to the playoffs than anyone else, but my stats cards tell me that you should actually be putting in Jones.”
Please find my coaching CV attached.
ok cool. Based. awesome
nice
ok
i truly hate this
absolutely cooked