> The “Deserve To Win O’Meter” is a feature on our live game pages which shows the each team’s chance of winning the game had the game been re-enacted, except with average goaltending for both teams.
Turns out we had below average goaltending and they had above average goaltending lmao. This game isn’t all on sammy, but also he didn’t help
hymensmasher99
The eye test says we got cooked tonight.
GoatStimulator_
Money Puck’s system is completely illogical and has no bearing with reality.
13jsw
What about when you factor in the third team that was playing out there tonight… the guys in stripes
nomdreas
Crazy what good goaltending does!
Freak_Out_Bazaar
I usually agree with the Deserve To Win O’Meter but I have no clue where they got this from. Boston came in as the better team on paper and finished the game on top as predicted. The only thing that could possibly lead one to say the Leafs deserved to win is by virtue of pity or saying “It’s about time the Leafs won one”
Jake_Thador
High danger chances is not enough clarification. We need HDC and Super HDC because I swear we lose all the time, even with more HDC’s, because the ones we give up are even Higher Danger™
SnazzyCazzy1
The flurry from the 4 on 3 inflated these numbers but 5 on 5 we were the better team but got unlucky. And then got burnt on the special teams battle. We NEED to learn from the mistakes and come out FIRING on Monday
ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn
more like deserve to suck my ass o meter
Ill-Team-3491
Fancy stats this fancy stats that. Just need to play about 100,000 playoff series and look at the bigger picture to appreciate how the Leafs will have won X% of times. See you all in a few thousand years.
StaticR0ute
Someone better take this meter into the shop. I don’t think it’s working properly.
billcosbyinnocence
Is this how we’re coping?
OneNineSevenNine
The “Deserve to Win-O-Meter” is the dumbest shit in sports.
The team that deserves to win is the team that wins. All this does is trigger fans.
awitley12
Our xG was 7.42 in this one…
I don’t think I’ve seen a 6.42 goals below expected before.
drow_enjoyer
ah yes the post-loss “statishtikully we should have won!!!!”
TheDeek
We always win this shit. Been years of it and we never win – obviously something else is going on.
adamzep91
I’m so sick of seeing these stupid things
Deluxechin
Phew thank god, was worried we almost lost the Win-O-Meter
so where we thinking? Cup parade around SBA first? or do we start it somewhere else?
ElephantShell34
Hopefully the Leafs don’t see this and think the way they played was in any way acceptable.
Generally I am in favour of analytics but models have their weaknesses and when you watch the game tonight it’s clear the Leafs weren’t close to being the better team.
Also xG stuff doesn’t matter in the playoffs because the sample size is too small. Score goals, win games. That’s it.
kingex11
Retire that stupid meter
bot_fucker69
They forgot to multiply our % by the sammy factor of 0.25
Similar-Jellyfish499
Lmao delete this shit
How embarrassing that anyone puts ANY stock into these models, especially in the playoffs
thebartdie
The Leafs were terrible top to bottom, I don’t know how this makes any sense.
diecorporations
it could be 100% deserve o meter, but if you let in soft goals you cant win shit.
diecorporations
no starting goalie, no team.
xtzferocity
What game did they track? Lmao what?
adwrx
Leafs outshot the bruins by a wide margin
Chad_Broski_2
Because despite playing well we had some massive defensive missteps and Samsonov let in some horribly weak goals
throwaway923535
There’s no world in which they deserved to win this. 4-0 plus like 5 posts after two.
RailroadingFreedom
No sustained pressure and bad penalties. I don’t need to “read about how the deserve o-meter works.” the eye test did just fine tonight.
JamesCurtis24
If I had a time for every time this team did it on the deserve to win meter, but not the ice…
THE-BS
I watched 85% of the game before I threw the TV out the window
DidntDiddydoit
The game was over on the first fucking shot. Ridiculous.
BobbyAxelrod1
Look on the positive side….. domi played great.
Pristine_Office_2773
If you watched that game it didn’t even occur to you that the Leafs deserved to win. You would have never, ever, thought that for a second. I don’t know what stats this thing uses, but it is BROKEN, and whatever logic behind it is, I sure hope to fix that no one from the Leafs use it for any analysis.
dartron5000
I guess this meter doesn’t take goaltending performance into consideration at all because no team deserves to win with 5 goals against on 24 shots.
DontToewsM3Bro
There is no such thing as deserved in sports
Winning is winning
And losing is losing
Leafs got smacked 5-1
Unless the core step ups, it’s going to be short series
jimmie9393
There is only stat that matters and that is the scoreboard.
EntertainmentNo1591
5 straight loses now. Every team is playing their A game heading into the playoffs and the leafs have been ass for past 2 weeks.
Keefe and the playoffs were so casual about it. They have won one series in 7 years. Not really something to be proud of.
Doesn’t help they have under .500 record vs division teams.
Bobbyoot47
Stats like this “deserve to win-o’meter” don’t mean anymore to me then what my score should’ve been in golf based on how many greens I hit in regulation. Still have to play the game and you still have to get the results. Stats are for losers. The only stat that matters is the final score. The percentages on this meter and how they related to the final score really just goes to show how useless it really is.
Sorry if I’m a little too blunt.
ProfessionalAir882
Here I thought the team that scored the most goals deserved to win. Silly.
EntertainmentNo1591
A few observations. 1. Leafs lack disciple and not everyone buys into the system. Two tier system. High salary players can act without accountability. 2. Leafs too top heavy. 3. Leafs are great with the puck, but really terrible without it.
A team that can’t defend has no business in the playoffs. Blueline simply isn’t not good enough and the forwards cheat for offense. Bruins in 4.
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Wasn’t a single part of this game where I was under the impression we deserved to win lmao
It’s because these are stupid and useless.
All these stats mean jack shit when your goalie sucks balls
Goaltending will do that. Not just Sammy being brutal but Swayman being a stud.
High danger chances 13-8 Toronto going into the third, but 4-0 Boston on the scoreboard. Leafs had some good looks, Swayman said no.
This is why AI will never take over. We got taken to the cleaners.
We should have won based on our feelings.
https://moneypuck.com/about.htm#meter
> The “Deserve To Win O’Meter” is a feature on our live game pages which shows the each team’s chance of winning the game had the game been re-enacted, except with average goaltending for both teams.
Turns out we had below average goaltending and they had above average goaltending lmao. This game isn’t all on sammy, but also he didn’t help
The eye test says we got cooked tonight.
Money Puck’s system is completely illogical and has no bearing with reality.
What about when you factor in the third team that was playing out there tonight… the guys in stripes
Crazy what good goaltending does!
I usually agree with the Deserve To Win O’Meter but I have no clue where they got this from. Boston came in as the better team on paper and finished the game on top as predicted. The only thing that could possibly lead one to say the Leafs deserved to win is by virtue of pity or saying “It’s about time the Leafs won one”
High danger chances is not enough clarification. We need HDC and Super HDC because I swear we lose all the time, even with more HDC’s, because the ones we give up are even Higher Danger™
The flurry from the 4 on 3 inflated these numbers but 5 on 5 we were the better team but got unlucky. And then got burnt on the special teams battle. We NEED to learn from the mistakes and come out FIRING on Monday
more like deserve to suck my ass o meter
Fancy stats this fancy stats that. Just need to play about 100,000 playoff series and look at the bigger picture to appreciate how the Leafs will have won X% of times. See you all in a few thousand years.
Someone better take this meter into the shop. I don’t think it’s working properly.
Is this how we’re coping?
The “Deserve to Win-O-Meter” is the dumbest shit in sports.
The team that deserves to win is the team that wins. All this does is trigger fans.
Our xG was 7.42 in this one…
I don’t think I’ve seen a 6.42 goals below expected before.
ah yes the post-loss “statishtikully we should have won!!!!”
We always win this shit. Been years of it and we never win – obviously something else is going on.
I’m so sick of seeing these stupid things
Phew thank god, was worried we almost lost the Win-O-Meter
so where we thinking? Cup parade around SBA first? or do we start it somewhere else?
Hopefully the Leafs don’t see this and think the way they played was in any way acceptable.
Generally I am in favour of analytics but models have their weaknesses and when you watch the game tonight it’s clear the Leafs weren’t close to being the better team.
Also xG stuff doesn’t matter in the playoffs because the sample size is too small. Score goals, win games. That’s it.
Retire that stupid meter
They forgot to multiply our % by the sammy factor of 0.25
Lmao delete this shit
How embarrassing that anyone puts ANY stock into these models, especially in the playoffs
The Leafs were terrible top to bottom, I don’t know how this makes any sense.
it could be 100% deserve o meter, but if you let in soft goals you cant win shit.
no starting goalie, no team.
What game did they track? Lmao what?
Leafs outshot the bruins by a wide margin
Because despite playing well we had some massive defensive missteps and Samsonov let in some horribly weak goals
There’s no world in which they deserved to win this. 4-0 plus like 5 posts after two.
No sustained pressure and bad penalties. I don’t need to “read about how the deserve o-meter works.”
the eye test did just fine tonight.
If I had a time for every time this team did it on the deserve to win meter, but not the ice…
I watched 85% of the game before I threw the TV out the window
The game was over on the first fucking shot. Ridiculous.
Look on the positive side….. domi played great.
If you watched that game it didn’t even occur to you that the Leafs deserved to win. You would have never, ever, thought that for a second. I don’t know what stats this thing uses, but it is BROKEN, and whatever logic behind it is, I sure hope to fix that no one from the Leafs use it for any analysis.
I guess this meter doesn’t take goaltending performance into consideration at all because no team deserves to win with 5 goals against on 24 shots.
There is no such thing as deserved in sports
Winning is winning
And losing is losing
Leafs got smacked 5-1
Unless the core step ups, it’s going to be short series
There is only stat that matters and that is the scoreboard.
5 straight loses now. Every team is playing their A game heading into the playoffs and the leafs have been ass for past 2 weeks.
Keefe and the playoffs were so casual about it. They have won one series in 7 years. Not really something to be proud of.
Doesn’t help they have under .500 record vs division teams.
Stats like this “deserve to win-o’meter” don’t mean anymore to me then what my score should’ve been in golf based on how many greens I hit in regulation. Still have to play the game and you still have to get the results. Stats are for losers. The only stat that matters is the final score. The percentages on this meter and how they related to the final score really just goes to show how useless it really is.
Sorry if I’m a little too blunt.
Here I thought the team that scored the most goals deserved to win. Silly.
A few observations.
1. Leafs lack disciple and not everyone buys into the system. Two tier system. High salary players can act without accountability.
2. Leafs too top heavy.
3. Leafs are great with the puck, but really terrible without it.
A team that can’t defend has no business in the playoffs. Blueline simply isn’t not good enough and the forwards cheat for offense. Bruins in 4.