NHL should expand the playoff format for Buffalo
Off day today so I’m ready for a big picture type of question plus a mailbag coming up but first should the NHL expand the playoffs for the Buffalo Sabers it’s not as crazy as it sounds I’ll let you know coming up what I mean here on the locked on Sabers
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Philadelphia Flyers before a couple of games on the road as we are nearing the end of the season only six games to go for the Sabers they are five points out of a playoff spot it doesn’t sound that bad but you’re six points out very very
Very unlikely to make it coming up a little bit later on I will have a scenario that Sabers live broke down on uh how they could get in and it does kind of show off just how unlikely it is also on today’s show a mailbag from you guys amar’s playoff check in where
They’re at in the standings and some roster movement in the last couple of days that starting to show what that lineup might look like a question about Matt seavoy and the amirs which was a stupid situation last year and I don’t know whether it’s going to be dumb again
This year before we get to all of that though it’s an off day we’re between saber games here and the playoffs are approaching for the NHL and I wanted to get into a little bit today A A Commentary and a topic that Elliot fredman broke down on 32 thoughts this
Week and it kind of has me using the Sabers as Elliot did as a an example of why the NHL might want to consider expanding their playoffs but in a very specific way now before we get into the details of this proposed scenario that would basically be a carbon copy of what
The NBA does which I think is the way to go about it there are financial reasons as well and of course there are selfish bias reasons because we are sick and tired of not having playoff hockey here in Buffalo any form of it would be accepted I think by most before though
We get into the specifics of it just know I am aware of the counterargument and I am aware of the simple fact that would make me hesitant too that you already have half the teams that make the NHL playoffs there are 32 teams in the league 16 make it for a while there
More than half the league made it and one thing that fredman said in his talk about it was find me another sport that has expanded its playoffs and regrets it Major League Baseball expanded their playoffs the to they had the wild cards added right the NFL expanded their
Playoffs they added a wild card team a couple of years ago the NBA has their play in tournament expanding the playoffs all three of the other leagues have expanded their playoffs in recent times and for the most part I think Elliott’s right I don’t think any of those leagues regret going into the
Playoffs or expanding their playoffs what one difference though that’s very key that I will point to why the NHL is different and it’s a point I’ve already made where was Major League Baseball coming from nobody made the playoffs it was like six out of 30 teams made it
Before they expanded NFL it was 12 out of 32 teams made the playoffs before they expanded the NBA it was that’s the one that’s similar right that’s the one where it was the same as the NHL and that’s why I just want to directly look
To the NBA I want to throw out the NFL and Major League Baseball for this because they already had so few teams make it it made total sense for them and it didn’t have to be that creative They just added teams into their existing playoff format the NBA wanted expanded playoffs
But they did not want to just have a 10 team field so what fredman campaigned for and what I would campaign for too is the two added playing teams in each conference instead of one through eight gets in you have 10 teams get in you
Have seven8 nine and 10 play in a one or a two game series and the winner of the 910 has to play the loser of the 78 game and the winner of that game goes through so working from the top down if this will make it more clear if you’re not
Familiar with the NBA rules the seven seed in the NBA plays the eight seed on a certain night and the nine seed plays the 10 seed the winner of the seven versus eight game is through to the playoffs you only got to win one game if
You’re the seven or the eight and you’re the seven if you lose you still have a chance if you’re the seven eight loser the 910 matchup they play the winner of the 910 goes to play the loser of the 78 the loser of the 910 is eliminated
You’re done and then the next night we play the winner of 910 against the loser of 78 winner gets the eight seed that is the NBA playoff format so the nine1 teams have to win two games to get in the a two out of two the seven or eight
They got to win one out of two so you still have the advantage of being the eight over the 910 and what that format does and it’s so smart is it creates different levels of races you have a race for the six seed the race for the
Six seed that is very important so if you are a team that is around the playin tournament or you’re a team that’s at the five you know this year for instance the uh Toronto Maple Leafs maybe for instance the Toronto not not not even Toronto tonight this I guess is
A bad year because there’s such a gap in the Eastern Conference between the seven and the six um in the west you would have it though but imagine you’re the five seed in the east on a given year and you’re nine points clear of the nine
Seed you don’t care Seasons you you know cruise control get us to the playoffs but now under this format well you might be nine clear of the nine but you’re only three points clear of the seven you better be careful because if you drop down into that play in then you could be
Eliminated without even reaching the playoffs theoretically so you’re creating a race for six it’s important to get to six you’re you have a race for eight because the seven and the eight have an advantage over the n910 and you have a race for the 10 just to get into
The thing all different level Lev levels of races and that’s exactly what you’re trying to get the most important games possible and the Sabers for instance this year would be right now they are five points out with two more games played than the Washington Capitals and
They have to beat out four teams to get that spot it’s not going to happen but under this format 10 teams make it you’d be four points behind the Islanders they only have one more game to play than you do and you have three targets now instead of one t actually instead of
What the way I should say it is instead of four teams to climb over you only have to climb over two it would be a lot more realistic and the race in the last month would have been a real race and this is what fredman’s overall point was
And I agree with it is the NHL and why they should want to do this they are the most gate driven league in sports the NBA and the NFL especially and also Major League Baseball thrive on their TV money they have monster TV contracts look at the
Percentage of Revenue in each of these leagues and the the TV Revenue versus the gate Revenue the ticket revenue and the TV revenue is King for the NFL for the NBA and Major League Baseball for the NHL TV revenue is still important not nearly as much they are very reliant
On people coming to their games buying tickets buying beer and drinks and food at the arena merchandise they’re very reliant on that that economy to work for them so what I would say to that and I would use the sabes as an example I don’t need to make them the reason but
They are an example you want tickets you want people in the building and for that you need games that people care about and this would be a way to do it I’ve talked this season wondering about the long-term sustainability of the Buffalo Sabers and part of the reason why is fans have sto
Going to games because they’re so bad but also because they don’t play meaningful games this would be giving the fan base hey if the team can’t do it screw it all right NHL you do it and they might they just very might we’ll give you the meaningful game saber fans
Your team can’t do it so we’ll do it for you you’re now in a playoff race congratulations and now you might actually make the postseason last year they would have been in the play in tournament and saber fans would have gone nuts for that and you would have
Had more races you would have had more tickets you would have had even if it’s only you know this Tuesday night game uh Jeff Skinner night maybe instead of 14,000 fans maybe there’s 16,000 fans in the building because 2,000 more fans think they can make the playoffs and
Want to go see it happen uh make the play in at least and that’s money those couple of thousand fans that’s money that’s beer money that’s parking money that’s an economy that you are seeing in front of your eyes and I think it makes a lot of sense while also not completely
You know changing up the playoff formats you’re just it’s playing games I think if you watch the NBA you know that this thing works you know that it creates entertainment you know that people care about it and it’s not really that gimmicky it in the surface it feels
Gimmicky but once you start to see it in action you realize that it’s really not a gimmick it’s just a smart sensible idea that fans like you know fans if there’s push back at the start guarantee you once it happens you can tell me right now that’s is stupid just leave it
One through eight whatever and then the moment the Buffalo Sabers are hosting the Pittsburg Penguins in a playin game winner goes to the playoffs uh as the seven seed to go play the New York Rangers you are going to be at that game you are going to be fired up you might
Even be at the party in the plaza because you’ll be so into it the Sabers are the example of why the NHL should do this you have too many teams it’s not just Buffalo Ottawa is good for this Detroit who is on a seven uh year losing
Streak uh and has had some fan interest start to wne a little bit you have a lot of teams around the league that when they’re dead people don’t show up and the Sabers been dead for a long time ottawa’s been dead for a long time Detroit has been dead for a long time
Anaheim has been dead for a long time and if you could create games that those fans will care more about because you’re creating races in the each conference I think it’s a very smart idea cap would go higher too because there’s more money in the league so it’s good for the
Players it’s good for the owners because they’re making more money it’s good for everybody uh the last thing I’ll say on this my bet is though they don’t do it until there’s expansion again again the point about more than half the teams making it I bet you have to wait till
Expansion which I think we’re going to get Atlanta showing interest again uh Quebec City has always been interested you’ve got other cities around the country Houston for instance that have always been looking for a team team Salt Lake City is the new one on the Block this year I think they’re going to
Expand at some point and when they do and go to 34 teams it is absolutely the right decision that they should do this play tournament idea when we come back ammer Who’s down there who’s going to be going down there why you should care about the AHL playoffs which are
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With the Amar your droughty of the day for the Buffalo Sabers and I do believe this is some good trivia that you should use for your friends your buddies whenever the next time you’re looking for a question like this Sabers droughty of the day there are
11 Hall of Famers that have played play a playoff game more recently than the Buffalo Sabers have 11 Hall of Famers you could play The Guessing Game now this is not radio this is podcast so hit the pause button see if you could figure out a chunk of them and then come back
And I’ll give you the answers if you won’t want to hang around just find out the answers yourself I’ll give them to you right here 11 Hall of Famers that have made that played in the playoffs more recently than the Sabers at the bottom a guy that I always use for this
And it’s incredible to me that he did it Mike madon has played a playoff game more recently in the Savers 2 uh for the Detroit Red Wings who he played for right at the end of his career Chris Pronger has done this Nicholas ledstrom Daniel alfredson Mark wcky teu salani has played a
Playoff game more recently Jerome ainla Daniel sadine Henrik sadine Marty St Louie and Maran HOSA those are your 11 Hockey Hall of Famers have finished their careers gone through the period of time you have to wait to make the Hall of Fame made the Hall of Fame all in the
Amount of time the Sabers have had their playoff drought good question of trivia if you’re looking for it the ammer Devin Levi back to Rochester and I would imagine for the uh the finale of the season in Rochester I would expect the next time he puts on blue and gold it
Will be next season uh Levi has been unbelievable on the year 20 games played in Rochester a 928 save percentage he is one of the best goalies in the AHL I think he had the second highest save percentage at last when he got called up
Last uh and if you look in comparison to the other goalies in Rochester Levi a 928 save percentage Dustin tarski an 890 save percentage Michael Hower an 871 save percentage they need Devon Levi for this playoff run now they’re pretty good they’re probably going to be fine making
The postseason in the North Division uh five of the seven teams make the playoffs the amirs at this point in time are in second place they have 77 points and they are only three points away from first they also that that division matters for finishing top three if you
Finish fourth or fifth I just talked about play-ins you basically have to play a playin to get to the next round the final four if you will of the North Division in the AHL and as it stands the Amar are four points clear clear of that
With only a few games to play uh they have seven games remaining so Levi goes down there they next play on Saturday at Providence and uh before uh they have a while before they’re home so they need him that team is starting to heat up a
Little bit again when it comes to the prospects uh Yuri Kulik uh has been playing a little bit better as of late although he’s still not finding the back of the net as much as you would hope but I’m excited for the playoff run in Rochester it was exciting last year they
Went all the way to the semi-finals playing the Hershey Bears Isaac Roseanne Yuri Kulik are playing great again um although as I mentioned they’ve kind of slowed down the second half of the year that’s mostly it for me though I mean we know the guys Lucas rusek down there
Brandon brro Brett Murray Michael Mish lenus weissbach like there are some over aers down there but the prospects that you are going to care about are going to be Kik Rosine and Devin Levi and then oh also Anton Wahlberg who just uh showed up there second round pick
Um I don’t know what they plan on doing with him in terms of playing he’s played two games one assist in the two games we’ll see how much he plays in the playoffs um and then we’ll see who else gets there because Matthew seavo we’re talking about here also Noah Olen who I
Think is eligible to go there after his season ends but I don’t know the timing of that and whether or not he actually will but seavoy is the one that’s more interesting to me what is Rochester’s plan going to be with Matthew seavoy after what happened last year and if you
Remember what happened last year this the AMS got Matt seavoy after his Junior season had ended they put him in for two games in the AHL semifinals and he did not play well he did not do much at all kind of disappeared didn’t play well at
All but it was only two games and it was at the end like part of it is hey the seasons’s on the line right so what did they do they benched him they did not give him that experience they did not give him that opportunity to to get big
Meaningful games in the AHL playoffs as a as the one of the best prospects and important players in the sabers organization what they did instead was they played Austin strand who was a eighth defenseman who had played 11 games total for the amirs as their seventh defenseman now they put him in the
Lineup and they took seavoy out and if and there was other roster moves too um but that was like the one that would that stuck out to me wait a minute you’re putting this guy in your lineup after not playing at all in the playoffs and you’re taking seavoy out listen I
Understand if you want to take seavoy out because you’ve got some guy on the bench that is worthy of playing veteran that scored a bunch of goals but you are trying to win a series here why not have the unknown of this first round Star level saber prospect that maybe heats up
In a couple of games or as one big game for us instead we’re going to put this guy in to play seven minutes on the blue line that we know is not going to do anything to help us never made sense to me and the logic that was used to defend
It was just psychotic it is what I will go to the Grave that is one of the dumbest weeks of my life because I could not believe people thought that that dude strand no offense to him but deserve to be in the lineup over maybe
You get a crazy good game out of Matt seavoy seavoy has gone back to Juniors and he’s way too good for the WHL he should not I mean he shouldn’t be down there and that’s more of a rules problem um you’ve had the AHL and the CHL just
They they’re not allowed to play in the AHL at a certain age CHL agreement but he should be in the AHL he has 33 goals in 37 games since the Sabers returned him 33 goals in 37 games unbelievable he has three in the playoff for Moosejaw four in the playoffs for
Moosejaw um excuse me that wasn’t updated I forgot he scored a second goal last night he actually has 34 goals in 37 games in Moosejaw since being returned so he’s been crazy good if his Junior season ends in time to catch the amirs in the playoffs I mean they gotta
Play them they just got to play them learn your lesson that series ended by the way last year with seavo on the bch and they lost one to nothing so could have used a guy that was out of your lineup that has some ability off offensively seavoy should play a big
Meaningful role and you know if I’m being really uh uh picky here I’d really love to see seavoy with Kik and Rosine on the same line I mean that would be ideal and that would really get saber fans in tune I think for the uh for the
Amers playoffs so we’ll see what they do we’ll see how seavo Junior season continues um I know they’re doing well with Moosejaw uh so we’ll see how that goes for uh for him uh but the amicks playoffs were still a couple of weeks away from that getting going when we
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On Sabers text line join sub.com loock ons saers if you want to sign up all right question one who’s the Sabers version of trading away Stefan Diggs I tackled this yesterday on the show if you missed it check it out it’s the Ryan O’Reilly trade for me I really wonder if
Terry Pula what wanted Brandon Bean to make this trade and I wonder how much Bean wanted to and we know that was the situation when they traded Ryan O’Reilly I wonder about Pula for that second how much should the first round pick be in play this year I think there
Should be a less than 5% chance we make the pick I don’t know about that it’s a top 10 pick I mean in theory I agree with you you package a top 10 pick with a star Prospect and go get me a superstar uh I like that but I got to put it
Higher than 5% just because I don’t know how How likely that is to be available to the Sabers How likely a player like that will become free but if there’s a guy Brady kachu or someone like that COV that becomes available then I would agree with you that I would be mad if
The Savers made their first round pick um there’s also 5% Chance by the way it’s first overall if it’s if that happens you you can’t say less than 5% chance to make the pick if the pick is number one overall that’s at 5% so it’s got to be at least five because even
This texter I don’t think would tell me that he’d want to trade the pick if they got Macklin cerini at number one especially given that he’s a center next up question three what’s your ideal realistic lineup for next season coaches included all right so this is something
That I’m going to get really in the Weeds on after the season is over but I’ll give give you a a rough draft of the lineup that I’ve got for the start of next season Tage Thompson Alex tuck JJ PKA I’ve loved that line together recently the speed I got Skinner with
Cousins and Quinn I just don’t know where to put Skinner that’s going to be a tough one for me but I’ll put him with cousins and Quinn I’ve got Benson With Yuri Kulik centered by Boon Jenner I think Jenner is a realistic trade Target we’ve talked a lot about him uh in saber
Twitter recently uh Center third line guy would be a really strong third line Center I think he makes sense between two kids on line three and then I got Krebs and Greenway in line four and I don’t have a fourth guy I don’t want garson’s back uh Scott lon’s come up but
I’m going to have to really dive into those fourth line free agent types and see who makes sense for the Savers coaching wise I would like to see Lindy Ruff be the coach no doubt about it and who were Lindy’s assistant coaches back in the day well Kevin Adams but that’s
Not happening all right next up question four if we sign petka and Quinn is a future forward uh because we know who he is are we realistically looking next offse for a third line Center to support Kik and Skinner I just mentioned Bo Jenner I think veteran makes sense I
Think kolie can play center seavo can play center I don’t know that you want to put a kid though in that spot and I listen I wanted to see pton Krebs in that role I’m not impressed he’s got to show me something in these final six
Games or you’re not going to find me this summer campaigning for uh pton Krebs to be their third line Center so yes I think veteran is probably the most realistic outcome for that spot all right next up if Adams made to trade this host would rather have l or Boon Jenner I’d
Go with Jenner l no thanks this he is bigger Victor olivon at this point in his career I don’t want any part of that should Levi this is question five should Levi have a chance at being the starting goalie next year I’ll say yes but not the first chance ukap peka Lucan has
Earned every right to be the starting goalie at the start of next season but we saw how this season went Devon Levi earned the to get this the starters net at the beginning of the year he played four games and Uka Lucan and stole the job from him that’s what should happen
Next year you go into the year you play Lucan in the first five games of the year if you want but whatever you go into the year and upl’s your number one and if he struggles a little bit and Devon Levi shows up and is incredible which I think is possible then Devon
Levi is your starter uh so I think it could be the same situation next year that it would be this year where you start one guy but if the if your plan changes then be willing to change it so I would be willing to put Levi in there
As the starter at some point and finally our final question of the day which prospects have the best chance of making the team next year also what are your thoughts on Noah Olen where he projects to be next year next year I think Olen is almost undoubtedly in Rochester I
Think the Sabres want him in North America I think Olen has said that he will eventually be in North America um I think Rochester for sure for him you never know though Benson surprised me so maybe osen could too the prospects I think have the best chance if I were
Going to rank them in order I would go Ki number one I don’t know who to put to actually I might go a tie for a second with Rosine and Matt seavoy I think seavoy excites me more but timeline wise Rosine makes more sense I might go Rosine
Because seavoy I could put him in Rochester and that’s still a step up for him right that’s a that’s a better level of competition for him than Juniors so maybe start the year for him in Rochester whereas Rosine if he gets passed by another saber Prospect that’s younger than him then
I’m starting to wonder if he’ll ever be an NHL I’d like to see Rosine in the NHL next year what in whatever role bottom six but it’s time you’ve played you’ve played for him what is it two or three full seasons in Rochester it’s two full seasons in Rochester and that was after
A year in Sweden I at 21 years old he’ll be 20 uh no he is he just turned 21 uh 21y old season I think I want him in the NHL getting a crack at it so I might put him number two Sao number three also number
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25 Comments
Just leave it alone half the league gets in that’s plenty of teams
The play in tournament sounds like a great idea.
10 vs 9 and 8 v 7 would be a great format
Future prediction: when play in tourney starts we finish 7th and get knocked out of would be playoffs 😂
The season should end the day before training camps starts….
Most gate driven league….journalese for ‘half the league is losing money’ and you can’t give tickets away….😅
Bro half the teams make it to the playoffs every year no expanding or stupid ass play ins if they can’t make it fair and square after 13 years relocate y’all don’t deserve a team
I hate to break the news to you but Savioe played 6 games this year and had 5 points, he played great, last year he wasn’t ready to play in pro hockey, I was at his first playoff game. You forgot he played this year, too busy eating buffalo wings
I really like the playoff idea. I also think our arena culture needs more inspiration. In terms of the music and the "NHL experience" , it shouldnt be the same thing copy pasta in every arena. Imagine we had team chants, songs, etc like european football. Each arena could be way more specific to the culture and vibe of the city they play in. We can do better. I think we could do away with the pre game anthems too- yeah, I said it.
Nhl is watered down already. Do we really need more mediocre teams making the playoffs ? 🤔
That's sad man. We suck so much the only time we will get in is if they change the rules
NBA blows
Expanding the playoffs makes the regular season worthless.
Good lord the loser mentality of this fanbase. Change the rules to help the worst team in the league the last 13 years finally get into the playoffs. Here's your participation trophy. What's next our goals count as 2 goals not just one like every other team?
Unload Skinner bring in Draisiatl! 🎈
The nba is such a better run league. Look at the growth of that game versus the nhl over the last 20 years. Too old fashioned of a league
The rules are fine the way they are. Don't handicap the rules just to save some feelings. If they would have started strong they would still have a chance. They didn't so now, vacation comes early AGAIN !
Sabres have to be good and earn a playoff spot, no special treatment or tweaking of the rules, so don't talk nonsense
No reason at all to touch the playoff format. The NBA playoff format is also the dumbest thing ive seen
The way this looks and sounds is akin to the tomfoolery that created the "play-in" brackets to accommodate LeBum and his precious LA Lakers. HELL, to the NO!!!!
No, just no. Wtf is the point of the playoffs then? If the Sabres can't hack it in this current format, then they don't deserve to get in dummy.
When there were only 21 teams, 16 made the playoffs. We've added 11 teams, and the playoffs haven't adjusted. Nuff said.
Not going to watch the video. Just here to say it's a dumb idea.
Crying for changes just like the bills did lmfao. Fucking clowns
funny to see a fan of the team with the longest active playoff drought, 12 seasons soon to be 13 seasons want this rubbish. maybe the sabres need to stop being a trash franchise