Josh Manson was given a two minute minor penalty for an illegal check to the head on J.T. Miller. Miller left the game under concussion protocol. Should this have been a five minute major? Have your say!
I might be wrong….but it just does not look like a bad play. Miller seemed to know the check was coming, but didn't seem to adjust to deal wtih it. Maybe the speed of the video clip was deceiving…
Can't see how this is different than Kadri-Wingels outside of the fact that Miller is not on his knees. Looks very much the same: hip into head by a fast moving player into a guy that's hard against the boards.
How thats not intent to injure is crazy, just because you throw your head back after you deliver a headshot like that doesn't change what you did. Absolute garbage from the refs
He's aiming at the head (look where he is looking, and it isn't at the puck). I'd just pile this into the "intent to injure" category. Again, "Manson".. like father, like son. Dad was known for dirty hits, and well, so is his son.
An incredible stupid hit, considering it looks like he knows it's a chance that he might get called for it but still proceeds to do it. Play the puck dude.
I don't know what Miller was thinking when he looked at Manson approaching and deciding to turn around. But nevertheless, a hit from behind and especially directly to the head. Should be a major penalty and a suspension of a few games.
If it would have been otherwise a clean hit but hitting from behind, it could be argued that it was Millers fault for turning around, but when the hit is directly to the head, there is no excuse.
What is with players checking like this? Are they all going to the school of checking by Matt Tkachuk? You cannot spin your body before a check and claim you aren’t responsible for injury. As soon as your spin, you’re taking a huge risk.
That's a stupid hit to make, it really just gets head contact. Yes, Miller sees him coming, so he should brace for a BODY check/hit. Not head. This will possibly only be a fine though, since Miller oversold the hit (no concussion there it looks like). We've seen a guy Elbow people and dish out concussions get 4 games, cross-checks to the head dishing 5-6, so I'd expect it to AT MAX be a 1 game suspension, just due to the fact that it was a head hit first.
These players need to take accountability, your paid thousand if not millions per year. Dont turtle to the boards and risk injury. Anyone that turns their back to opposing players while against or approaching the boards should be penalized.
I guess NHL is gonna go soft like the NBA. If that is a penalty, then every game will have 20 penalties per game. Might be incidental, might not nearly as bad as Miller made it look.
Looks pretty bad to me. Manson goes in with speed, elbow first. Millers head is against the boards and doesn’t change much if at all leading up to contact. The player receiving the hit should not have to read the other players mind how he’s going to deliver the hit. It’s not a penalty to be in that position to protect the puck but it is a penalty to deliver that hit to the head. This is a lot different than many hits where players against the boards see an opposing player and still turns his back and gets hit. That actually pisses me off that guys get kicked out of games or suspended for those plays. They’re making that sudden turn at the risk of their whole career but imo this is not that type of play. Should be a suspension
Definitely Miller was in a vulnerable position, yet he put himself in it and his complete lack of awareness aka tunnel vision of bending forward focusing on the puck with his head down contributed to this. This is one of those situations where the opposing player needs to recognize & hold back on finishing the check. The NHL & DOPS and NHLPA needs to sit down and either draft some new rules or amendments to existing rules to address some of these incidents.
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I might be wrong….but it just does not look like a bad play. Miller seemed to know the check was coming, but didn't seem to adjust to deal wtih it. Maybe the speed of the video clip was deceiving…
Not a penalty.
Can't see how this is different than Kadri-Wingels outside of the fact that Miller is not on his knees. Looks very much the same: hip into head by a fast moving player into a guy that's hard against the boards.
How thats not intent to injure is crazy, just because you throw your head back after you deliver a headshot like that doesn't change what you did. Absolute garbage from the refs
He's aiming at the head (look where he is looking, and it isn't at the puck). I'd just pile this into the "intent to injure" category. Again, "Manson".. like father, like son. Dad was known for dirty hits, and well, so is his son.
Clean hit. Miller needs to not flop. Should be a 5 minute major for diving on Miller.
An incredible stupid hit, considering it looks like he knows it's a chance that he might get called for it but still proceeds to do it. Play the puck dude.
This is not from behind. Miller was trying to intentionally sell it to the officials.
I don't know what Miller was thinking when he looked at Manson approaching and deciding to turn around. But nevertheless, a hit from behind and especially directly to the head. Should be a major penalty and a suspension of a few games.
If it would have been otherwise a clean hit but hitting from behind, it could be argued that it was Millers fault for turning around, but when the hit is directly to the head, there is no excuse.
What is with players checking like this? Are they all going to the school of checking by Matt Tkachuk? You cannot spin your body before a check and claim you aren’t responsible for injury. As soon as your spin, you’re taking a huge risk.
Clearly not a penalty. Miller tries too hard to sell it. He didn’t even hit him that hard.
That's a stupid hit to make, it really just gets head contact. Yes, Miller sees him coming, so he should brace for a BODY check/hit. Not head. This will possibly only be a fine though, since Miller oversold the hit (no concussion there it looks like). We've seen a guy Elbow people and dish out concussions get 4 games, cross-checks to the head dishing 5-6, so I'd expect it to AT MAX be a 1 game suspension, just due to the fact that it was a head hit first.
2 min boarding
It seems to be everybody wants a review for a 5 and a game that was a 2 min boarding pim.. pretty soon we will be looking at every hit
These players need to take accountability, your paid thousand if not millions per year. Dont turtle to the boards and risk injury. Anyone that turns their back to opposing players while against or approaching the boards should be penalized.
I guess NHL is gonna go soft like the NBA. If that is a penalty, then every game will have 20 penalties per game. Might be incidental, might not nearly as bad as Miller made it look.
More of a nudge than a hit. Terrible call! Miller diving again!
A man with the name Manson would never harm another human.
Clean hit
Looks pretty bad to me. Manson goes in with speed, elbow first. Millers head is against the boards and doesn’t change much if at all leading up to contact. The player receiving the hit should not have to read the other players mind how he’s going to deliver the hit. It’s not a penalty to be in that position to protect the puck but it is a penalty to deliver that hit to the head. This is a lot different than many hits where players against the boards see an opposing player and still turns his back and gets hit. That actually pisses me off that guys get kicked out of games or suspended for those plays. They’re making that sudden turn at the risk of their whole career but imo this is not that type of play. Should be a suspension
Jonathan Tanner could have got his head out of the way. If there was intent, Miller might have needed a stretcher. Definitely a minor.
Right call. Miller saw him coming and could've easily got out of the way and protected himself. He was looking for the big call.
I dont get it…why do players keep doing this to each other?!
Major
Definitely Miller was in a vulnerable position, yet he put himself in it and his complete lack of awareness aka tunnel vision of bending forward focusing on the puck with his head down contributed to this. This is one of those situations where the opposing player needs to recognize & hold back on finishing the check. The NHL & DOPS and NHLPA needs to sit down and either draft some new rules or amendments to existing rules to address some of these incidents.