THE HIGH WIND GYBE! Q+A Live ⛵️ Your Catamaran Sailing Questions Answered

THE HIGH WIND GYBE! Q+A Live ⛵️ Your Catamaran Sailing Questions Answered

So hello yes we’re live with some more  scintillating Q&A on Joy Rider TV so   GNA steam straight in with a very interesting  preloaded question and I think this probably   has happened to most of you out there um most  catamaran Sailors all right so here’s the scenario  

You’re sailing downwind uh on a broad reach and  it is very windy and you need to Jive and you   think every time you bear a away to go into the  J perhaps the bows dip down and it’s like if we  

Go for this we are going swimming for sure we’re  going to cap size now what do you do to firstly to   make that job happen without the cap size but also  to take the fear out of that particular maneuver  

As well I think that’s a good opening question to  be answering in today’s Q&A now this question was   actually asked by Hanny who is in Amsterdam but  she’s recently been lucky enough to be in maius   uh doing some great sailing there with wildwind  macious and uh this high wind J scenario did seem  

To come up so um let’s see what we can do to  take the sting out of that high wind jib so um   the first thing that we need to do is there’s  two types of high wind let’s go for Mega high  

Wind which means every time you bear away the bows  dip in so before we try bearing away into the J we   do need need to make sure that we’re sailing in  the right direction first which would be here’s  

Our wind here and we definitely need to be on a  proper broad reach before we try bearing away so   the way we determine sorry if this is uh uh old  news to some of you but the way that we determine  

That we’re on the broad reach the proper broad  reach is our tell taals flying straight across   at 90° to the boat because that is our optimal  downwind sailing angle if we’re any higher to   the wind than that before we try entering into  our jve it means that the angle that we have to  

Turn through is too much and the boat will slow  down too much going into the J and we’re going to   stick the nose in almost certainly if if the wind  is that heavy yes so starting off on our catamaran  

Sailor broad reach uh we’re just going to talk  about with two sales here we won’t talk about   uh sailing with the spa at this time um and then  traveler main sheet jib so the traveler um before  

We go into the J should be in fact let’s bring up  our new uh acquisition of the large scale boat go   Jesus sticky old girl um all right so the traveler  before we go into the J uh should be about between  

2/3 and 3/4 of the way out we’re not putting it  all of the way out we’re going to have the main   sheet looser with the traveler in a little bit  which is going to put more twist into the main  

Sale um so we’re going to start off with the  main traveler there if we’ve got jib Travelers   jib travelers all the way out and the sales we’re  going to trim the sales basically if it’s that  

Windy we’ll trim the sales to the amount of power  that we can handle so as we’re sailing along if   um we feel just on this broad reach that the  bows are dipping all the time we’re going to  

Ease the sails out a bit more make sure the jib  isn’t in too tight because the jib can force the   boughs down on its own so make sure that uh the  jibs not in too tight as well uh if in doubt ease  

It out a bit more I think that’s a good uh thing  to do so we’re still looking at just the sailing   before we go into the J um crew positions oh I  wonder if these will work um so crew positions  

We want to be as far can we do that can you see  that no it’s the same color that’s not going to   work um we want to be as far back on the boat as  possible all right we’re just evolving as we go

Um all right so the blue bits are the people on  the boat so we want to be as far back on the boat   as possible really close together so in fact in  fact these aren’t working never mind um right at  

The back to counteract the amount of pressure  on the Lee would bow this is where the action   is going to happen if there’s some action about to  happen it’s this Lee would bow which might unstick  

Us there all right so now we’re sailing along and  as we’re sailing Along on this heavy wind uh broad   reach we are likely um to encounter areas of more  wind and areas of slightly less wind so to keep  

The boat sailing nicely the trick when we get a  gust in the really heavy wind broad reach is to   respond to it really at the earliest possible  time so if um if uh if you can as soon as you  

Feel the gust um that is the time to bear away and  a good idea is to bear away and Sheet out at the   same time um because by sheating out that’s going  to take a bit more of the pressure off this fella  

Um if we can if uh we’ve got a crew if we can  sheet out the jib as well that is going to help   e even more so bear away and at the same time as  bearing away sheet out uh don’t absolutely Wang  

The Rudders towards you because what that might do  is force the Rudders to act like a break like if   we have the Rudders over so to bear away at an  angle like this it’s going to slow the back of  

The boat down and M that is going to make the bow  going down sort of action even more significant   so soon as you feel the gust just gently bear  away and it really is a situation where the more  

Confident you are the less frightening it will be  so um now actually that sounds pretty obvious um   but the more confident you are with the boat the  um the more stable and calm everything is going  

To seem so soon as the gust hits you bear away  slightly and the boat will just accelerate and   should be quite stable at that time so we still  haven’t J though all right so we’ve got the boat  

Sailing nicely what do we do when it’s time to  go for the job well this really is where your   confidence is um Almost Pretty almost essential  the heavy winds if you show the boat fear the  

Boat is going to give you more fear by responding  badly so first thing we want to do before we go   for this high wind Jive is bring the traveler  in um so we’re not going to bring the traveler  

Into the center but about the tow strap is a good  amount to bring the traveler in we’re still going   to have our main sheet loose but the traveler is  coming in because this means that when it’s time  

For the main sale to go across it’s going to go  across much earlier which means we’ll still have   speed at the time when the main sell goes across  and then when you’re ready to go best time to go  

As uh Pro I’ve probably mentioned before is you  get a gust this is if there’s gusts you bear away   slightly on the gust one once you’ve borne away  slightly the boat’s picked up some more speed  

But then it’s kind of settled that is the time to  go for the job because um the more speed that we   have going downwind into the Jive the less load  there is going to be in the sales when they come  

Across soorry I feel like I’m going to sneeze um  talk about I’ve got allergy to to talking about   driving clearly um yeah so the gust comes you  bear away a bit more this is going to be good  

Because we’re going faster less load in the rig  but also the angle that we’re going to have to   turn through is less so we’re not going to slow  down as much and then when you’re ready to go  

After that gust then you just have to steer into  the J but the trick is don’t straighten up until   the boom comes across if you reduce the angle  of your turn before the boom comes across then  

What’s going to happen is the boat’s going to  slow down which means the rig is going to load   up with pressure which means it’s going to become  more frightening um because all that pressure that  

You get if you slow down is going to be trying to  force the bowels of the boat under the water and   it’s like you’ll because you’re probably kneeling  on the trampoline facing the back at this point  

You’re going to see the Rudders start to lift out  and uh yeah that’s when it could start getting a   bit wet so don’t straighten up until after the  Boomers come across and then hand on the main  

Sheet like this grabbing the main sheet between  the blocks and as soon as you feel the main sheet   go loose um rather than just pulling it across  what I like to do is if I pull it in like this  

How can we visualize this this is tricky but if  you imagine we’ve got oh here we go we’ve got the   blocks like this with plenty of slack between them  if we pull the rope from here it’s going to very  

Quickly pull the top block more in line with the  bottom block which again is going to help to get   the boom to go across earlier which is what we’re  looking for Don’t Force It if it’s if it’s still  

Loaded up it’s not going to happen but once you  start turning you should feel that this becomes   there’s less load in in this and it is possible  without too much effort to pull the top block into  

Line with the bottom block then that is the time  to do it and then as soon as the booms come across   straighten up and uh settle on the get onto the  new side as quickly as you can and look forwards  

Because um we want to see what’s going on as soon  as we can um and then and then what yeah and then   we pretty much we’re celebrating we’ve made it  and uh yeah exciting times were there so what  

Other scenarios could we have in this situation of  the heavy wind job perhaps we’re sailing with some   waves then even better if we’re sailing with some  waves is if we can get the boat going down a wave  

When we go in into the J it’s the same as what  we’re doing here we’re going faster by going down   a wave which is taking the load out of the sail  um so it will go across with less of a big slam  

As it goes across but the trick the key to I to  any of it the jibing is you need to be confident   but if when you bear away into the Jive the bows  go down that means you haven’t got the the boat  

Set up correctly before you’re going into the  J so then we need to come back to our standard   broad reach course because when we bear away from  that broad reach we should feel that um the bows  

Aren’t dipping so much because in fact that should  take uh some of the power off as we turn in and as   long as we don’t slow down the turn then we should  have the minimum amount of load in the main sale  

When it’s time for it to come across yeah so um  yeah confidence um now the reason we want to sail   as fast as possible is to reduce the load in the  main sale that is how we’re going to get through  

The job and we’re going to get the main sale  across as early as we can but don’t try to pull   it across before it gives you that signal signal  of the ropes between the blocks going a little  

Bit looser that is the time to uh get it into the  middle well I hope that helps um but of course if   you happen to be coming to vasiliki and I dare  say Hanny you will be coming here um then um we  

Could go out on a boat um and go through some high  wind J because it is uh it’s possibly one of the   let’s say the top five points of intimidation  for all catamaran Sailors is the high wi jib  

The highwind bearway another one helming on the  trapeze another one uh not being able to tack or   uh what happens if I caps size possibly the big  uh intimidation fact actors for camaran Sailors   when it’s windy all right so there we go um so  hello and hello and welcome to the Q&A everybody  

Who’s just tuned in um you may be wondering Hey  Joe why are you wearing a t-shirt says 20 on it   ah well funny you should ask this is can we see  this this year’s Speed Stick t-shirt just out  

At um total Joy Rider if you want to get a hold  of one uh go over to the Speed Stick leaderboard   page uh which you may notice there hasn’t been  that many entries so far this year and you’ll  

See uh the 2024 Speed Stick t-shirt and hoodie  um listed in all sorts of colors so pick yourself   up one after we finished here or even while we’re  going uh with the Q&A very nice all right so going  

To check in with everyone who’s checking in we got  cck zly on board have a nice time to everybody and   please push the like button yes please thank  you very much we’ve got Scott uh coming from  

Bend Oregon USA uh nice to have you dropping in  the slot Scott um always a pleasure Hanny is on   board uh back from macius and in Amsterdam again  uh always good to have you on board Hanny and um  

Glad to see that you had a very nice time down in  maius uh it is a very nice time down there that’s   for sure uh Benny’s on board in Sweden hello to  all the cat Sailors around the world thank you  

Benny Aaron’s with us in New Zealand the crack of  dawn or probably before um I have to salute your   dedication Aaron um or perhaps you work nights  maybe that’s the explanation for that all right  

We got Ben XM who I don’t um uh who I I’d like to  welcome to the Q&A from TOS carner you’d have to   let me know where TOS carner is uh because I’m  not familiar yen is with us in somewhere in uh  

Germany hello Yen great to have you on board hope  you’re feeling better and uh it’s all going well   for you oh hany says when she was uh hitting the  high wind jibes uh there was no crew yeah that  

Possibly adds a little bit more spice so that does  actually raise the topic of the jib especially if   you’re alone on the boat during a high wind J  when should you address this issue of the jib  

Uh the short answer is afterwards um definitely  make sure it’s not too tight in going into the J   and in fact if while you’ve been sailing on your  broad reach you’ve felt you’ve felt that you’ve  

Got your main sail out quite far uh you’re at the  back of the boat um because you’re single-handed   you’ve actually got slight benefit on these  broad reaches is that um if you’ve got a crew   the crew has to be further forwards than uh the  helm which puts bit of weight further forward so  

If you haven’t got a crew that actually means  perhaps you don’t have that weight in front of   you which is also going to add to the bows going  down action but with the jib just make sure it’s  

Not in too tight going into the job but do have  it cleated um because what we don’t want if you’re   sailing a boat with a fully battened jib is the  jib r wrap which will happen if you have the jib  

Completely released going into a j the jib wrap  is when we get to Dead down wind maybe we could   do it with this uh the if the jib is loose the  jib wrap is when we go through the jib the jib  

Wants is getting blown outwards this way but then  the sheets probably aren’t long enough to go all   the way so when it gets to about here it gets kind  of mangled and really horribly twisted around the  

Front of the around the for stay and the front  of the boat so that is why we need some tension   in the jib sheets just to not let the jib go out  as far as as kind of 90 degrees because otherwise  

We might get that jib wrap what happens if you do  get the jib wrap how do we undo that if we just   try to force it back using the sheets it’s it’s  quite likely to damage the jib in fact so what we  

Have to do if we have wrapped the jib around the  front is take the boat back down wind so that the   wind is completely behind and then when the wind’s  completely behind just watch the jib and the jib  

Should just get blown around to the correct side  then bring the jib sheet in a little bit uh just   so there’s tension there and then get back onto  the course there we go all right so um oh we’ve  

Got a class catamaran AC Nano in Berlin great to  have you on board there um AC Nano um hope it’s   all going well for you we’ve got Eric on board  I’d have to say tip of the hat to Eric I’ve seen  

Uh on Facebook Eric has has been uh encouraging  everybody to come along to the Q&A thanks for   that Eric much appreciated he says what do you  mean by straighten up yeah so when the boom comes  

Across as soon as the Boomers landed on the new  side then just make the Rudders straight so stop   turning initially so um this Fell’s a little bit  too sticky for this so if we’re going from here to  

Here what we want to do is we’re going to go into  the Jive boom comes across about here and then we   straighten up for a second and then get settled  on the new side look forwards and then we turn  

Onto our new broad reaching course rather than  boom comes across and we head up straight away   because if we’re not ready on the new side of the  boat looking forwards and in control it might all  

Get a little bit wild and we might not be things  could happen now if it’s a really um juicy Jive   and you do feel the bows dip a little bit um when  this the boom comes across to the new side now  

Let’s call this a slightly more advanced technique  but what you can do is you go through the J and   the bows dip a little bit then we can just take  the boat back down wind so we going to steer in  

The opposite direction and that might just take  a little bit more of the sting out of that J the   reason that’s an advanced level um little tweak  on the Rudders is because obviously if you steer  

Too much you might Jive again and then all sorts  of things could happen so if you’re maybe it’s   worth practicing that kind of S turn um in a  slightly lighter wind so you get used to that  

Kind of feel like even in like 12 knots of wind  if you go into a j fairly fast um you might feel   a little bit of a surge of power when the sail  fills on the new side so just try turning back a  

Little bit and that’s going to help to take some  of that that pressure off uh just while you get   settled then get settled look forwards and then  off you go that’s what I reckon all right we’ve  

Got Steven on board I believe at graph and he’s  probably not a graph and water right now but uh   somewhere in that Arena of the UK says if you  Jive and you’re still on the boat this is good  

Actually uh then it’s a good job yes agreed if  you J and you’re not on the boat then it’s a dot   dot dot yeah probably a well it’s definitely a  swim at that uh Point all right we’ve got Mike  

On board hello Mike Mike says cars go fast much  agreed okay so Hanny says it helps yes let’s do   that okay that’s uh we we’re booked in for some  high wind jibing uh at some point in the summer  

All right we got two with us uh from Central Texas  uh nice to have you with us as always toot also   we’ve got Yin on board in Argentina I believe uh  thanks for tuning in Max is with us in rosenheim  

Germany uh where it is raining shame right hello  to Isaac hello to venicius hello to toot uh we’ve   already hello to toot venicius is in Brazil  um all right we got philli on board in Ireland  

Um all right Eric says thanks see you in Ocean  Springs oh nice all right yeah which is a a good   point to bring up at this point in the Q&A is um  where is Ocean Springs very good it’s quite near  

To New Orleans which apparently is pronounced  New Orleans um for those who know um in the uh   the south of the USA and why is it of relevance  at this time well I could tell you um I’m going  

To be coming to Ocean Springs to compete in the  Hobie 14 North American championships followed   by the mid Winters East camaran Riata now when is  this got it written down on a piece of paper um  

Because I’m a pro the uh North American Hobe 14  championships is at Ocean Springs from the 2 of   April so uh just in uh what’s that six weeks or  something um and then from the fifth of April so  

The second third and fourth is the Hobe 14s then  the fifth sixth and seventh is the mid Winters   East which is open to all classes of catamaran so  I can only encourage you guys if you are in that  

Sort of vicinity of uh the USA to come along get  involved even if you haven’t raced before it will   be a really great opportunity the mid Winters East  especially to do your first ever catamaran race uh  

Because not only I’ll be there on the hand to  give you advice and tips of how to survive and   enjoy getting round the race course but there’ll  be a lot of other experienced Sailors there and   everybody’s goal for these events is to get people  involved and into some catamaran racing so even if  

You think oh no I’ve never raced before I’m a  bit nervous about getting involved with racing   come and get involved if you can um if you want  any tips on Racing for your first time just check  

Out last last week’s q& day where we took quite  a deep dive into what you need to be able to do   uh to get on the race course for the first time  uh very informative I think you’ll find yeah and  

Then the weekend before the Hobe 14s which would  be the 30th and uh what would that be 3 uh yeah   the weekend before um I’ll be there and there’ll  be a lot of there’ll be a buzz around the Ocean  

Spring Sailing Club and uh we’re going to look at  putting on some Speed Stick type action live Speed   Stick sailing yeah so um and before um we set out  onto the water to see what sort of speeds we can  

Get I’m going to be doing some seminars on how to  sail your boat fast um which if you’ve got a boat   rigged up in the boat Park then we can actually  look at your boat and we can look specifically on  

How we can get maximum speed out of your boat  which I think that’s pretty nice so get down   to Ocean Springs in April and we’re GNA have a  good time that’s for sure very nice I’m coming  

All that way so it’ be nice to see you there we go  all right so um Step says uh back to the J yes I   do the S thing on the jib when it’s blown it does  make it easier yeah Venicia says high wind J very  

Difficult yeah it is um it is a big confidence  thing because it is counterintuitive when you   bear away the bows go down to then continue  bearing away when you think that’s just going   to send them down further but it’s not they are  going to come back as long as you’re entering  

Into the job with the right preparation which we  just spoke about all right Eric says uh norleans   that’s how you pronounced New Orleans there we go  I’m learning norleans right I’m gonna I’m gonna  

Work on that so by the time I get there I’m not  going to sound like an absolute uh I don’t know   what you’d call that all right we’ve got John on  board in Western Kentucky nice great to have you  

With us John he’s got a 1978 Hobie 16 uh my son  and I love the channel well thanks very much uh   great uh that you’ve been enjoying the videos  uh let us know if there’s anything specific  

That you’d like to know or you’d like to see or  you can’t find there is a chance generally with   if there’s a topic that um you don’t think I’ve  CED there is a chance that I have covered it but  

Um you’re not going to believe this but on Joy  Rider TV there is now almost a thousand videos   yeah that’s a lot of videos uh so I have covered  most topics but if you can’t find something let  

Me know and I’ll either find it for you or I will  make a video on that topic or for now because I’m   obviously not on the water at the moment uh at  this time of year uh we can talk about it in the  

Q&A and then I’ll go on to make a video about it  um once I am back on the water all right there we   go all right Alpa b2c is on board there are videos  with subtitles in French and others where there is  

No option it’s a shame I would like to take advice  yeah um yeah I I am going to when I get a minute   which hopefully should be the start of next week  I’m uh going to start going through the videos  

Making sure that they are all translated into um  uh the languages of most of the people who watch   them of course French being one of the main ones  French German uh what else do I like to put on  

Italian um then Spanish uh Brazilian Portuguese  uh because I know there’s a lot of guys in Brazil   and South America who watch the videos and it’s  nice even if you understand the English nice to   have that translation going on because um I dare  say sometimes Google gets it horribly wrong and  

It’s hilarious uh if nothing else so yes I  will be setting about trying to get um the   videos translated um is quite a timec consuming  process but so bear with me but I am working on  

It thanks all right so yokin says I was planning  to go but I’ve just started a new job last week   no trip for me ah shame to hear that but um good  news about the new job I think that’s always nice  

All right Stephen says we’ve been discussing thing  changing the rigging on our Hobe 16s freshwater   sailing how often should they be replaced  that’s a good question I’d say freshwater much   less frequent than if you’re sailing saltwater um  I’d say probably six years I’d go with six years  

Any more frequently than that would seem a bit  excessive because it is expensive at the end of   the day but if it’s saltwater then I’ve kind of  haggled myself down because before I was saying   three years but now I’m going to say uh every  four years if you’re sailing in saltwater six  

Years if it’s fresh um and you may think hold  on but I’ve sailed that whole season I haven’t   capsized didn’t get it wet but if your boat is  parked next to the Sea you get um and you get  

Some onshore wind quite often then the rigging is  going to be getting blasted by this saltwater air   which is going to have that corrosive effect  as well uh so over like if it’s exposed like  

That for a long time then it is uh G to diminish  the the liveliness of your rigging sorry I lost   lost some words there but um um yeah so it is a  good idea to replace it all right toot says what  

About Cowboy um yeah unfortunately there’s not an  option for the cowboy dialect to be used in the   translations all right Alpha says in the settings  it’s marked under the title unavailable on some   videos um have the French translation it’s it is  random thank you for your feedback yeah um yeah  

So from TR translating videos myself in the past  I believe you click on the button that says CC   uh which I think stands for closed captions and  then it should give you the option of different  

Languages but due to um perhaps I haven’t actually  done it might not mean that there are all of the   languages available all right Eric says Hobie  17 is there a way to look at your sale and tell   if the mass rotation is set correctly upwind  and downwind uh single sale for class legal  

Racing yeah that’s a trick a tricky one I in my  experience I would say you’re not going to see   so much if the mass rotation is set correctly by  looking at the sale it’s more like um the kind of  

Feel that you’re getting from the boat now um I  would and and from experience so kind of knowing   what your settings are for various points for the  points of sale in different wi strengths and um now different classes do react differently to the  m react uh Mast rotation but generally speaking  

Uh for upwind sailing until you’re absolutely  overpowered with all of the down hall on the   optimal angle to have your MK rotation is just  behind the shroud that’s a little bit too much so   just behind the Shroud that is the optimal angle  to have your Mast rotation on most boats with  

Adjustable Mast rotation on the upwind course I  would also keep it there on a beam reaching course   as well and then on the downwind course that would  be when you set the Mast rotation all of the way  

Out so you basically release it so it goes all  of the way out um there should be a a way like   on um I haven’t seen what the the current Hobie  17 Trends are but on the formula 18s you do have  

A system which means you set the MK rotation  and then you have another line which you can   release for going down downwind and then you pull  that line when you go upwind again and it pulls  

It back to where it was previously so you don’t  have to worry about um making that adjustment of   course if all you’ve got is the spanner bar and a  cleat on the boom if that’s all you’re allowed to  

Have then the easiest way would be to use a light  colored rope and put a mark with marker pen on the   Rope for the various settings that you’re going  to use for different wind conditions so you could  

Just pull it you see that the line you’ve put on  the Rope lines up with the cleat and you’re good   to go so the time when you would pull the mass  rotation in more is if you’re sailing in very  

Strong winds and uh you’ve got all of the down  hall on and you’re still feeling that you’re over   overpowered then we’d want to pull the MK rotation  in more so it’s pointing at the corner of the back  

Beam like that so apologies that I couldn’t give  you more uh specifically about the Hobie 17 um   but it’s not really something I’ve looked at is  Mast rotation and how that affects how the main   sale looks but perhaps that is something I can  look at in the future thanks for the question

All right so um continuing oh gosh Eric says an ad played and  then froze the video right as you talked about   Mass rotation well I would have to say  thanks very much for that YouTube that   was some really valuable information I was  just delivering um I’m hoping that this is  

Going going to come through nicely anyway  we’re going to continue um now I have a   question from Greg which I was met intending  to answer last week but I don’t think I did   apologies if I did answer this last week but  as far as I can remember I didn’t oh in fact  

We’ll use these and Greg’s question is quite um  straightforward it’s just like when ordering new   shrouds um or rigging on the boat and you’re  not getting original rigging so you’re not   buying it from the manufacturer so this is our  wire here there we go very nice H where do you  

Measure it from uh quite straightforward the  answer this one you just go to the ends of the uh what you call them Thimbles or the eyes  and then you just basically measured the complete   length like that um it’s a good idea to actually  measure the size of the eye as well because what  

Has happened to me in the past is I’ve gone to  get some rigging made and uh the only uh riger   that I could find was one who most their work is  with yachts and the size of the fittings that they  

Put on the ends of the wire were enormous so  uh good idea just to measure the diameter of   the fimble here and let the person making the  rigging know what size of thimble you need on  

Your rigging there we go all right um Phillip says  just looked at flights from Ireland to New Orleans   777 that is a bargain uh he says does anyone  need crew because Phillip is ready to get on  

An airplane and come over uh to nans very nice all  right maybe I’ll see you there uh Philip um I so I   tell you what if I can um because I I won’t have  a boat the weekend before so if I can uh jump on  

Anybody’s boat with them that weekend before then  fun times are ahead uh we’ll take a uh velocitech   speed Puck and um go and see what we can get out  of your boat uh without obviously um endangering  

It or being cruel because catamaran cruelty is bad  all right uh Eric says good info I use knots for   my upwind downwind settings on a cam cleat uh near  the on the boom all right nice a cam cleat on the  

Boom Perfect all right we’ve got Declan on board  hello Declan great to have you with us as always   and uh great opening question yeah I thought so  too the high wind J is I think it’s on everybody’s  

List you know I I get concerned sometimes when  it’s really windy but um but what I do and if   you’ve been watching the videos for a long time  you will notice that when it’s windy and I’m not  

Doing something specific I will jive a lot more  often than I’ll tack because it kind of keeps me   Jive ready for when I need to job so it’s like  I’m always if it’s windy I will make a point of  

Putting in the high win job as part of my personal  development my personal training so that I know   that when I need to do a highwind job I should be  okay and yes occasionally I do stick the nose in  

And uh Bin it but to be honest I’ve only started  pulling the traveler in before the job in the last   five years or so and since I’ve started doing  that I’m not stacking it on the jibes that much  

So uh there we go pull your traveler in all right  um we’ve got uh Eric on board I think it’s Eric   um greetings from Melbourne Florida oh Phillip  here we go this is actually happening philli in  

Ireland Phillip if you get a ride at Ocean Springs  I’ll put the Hobe 18 in nice uh Joe formula 18   the weekend before very nice yes sign me up I am  into all of it we’ll get stuck in with some good  

Sailing all right very nice okay I’ve got another  preloaded question and um because of the later   start time I’m going to have to say no further  questions in the live chat now please because um   I’ve got to go for dinner shortly otherwise I’ll  be in trouble or I’ll have cold dinner which you  

Know nobody wants cold dinner all right so I’ve  got a question from Zach um this is a follow on   from last week’s chat and it’s about um rules on  the race course when marks are involved all right  

So if you’re going to be racing at Ocean Springs  uh or anywhere and you haven’t raced before this   is one of the rules which can kind of uh confuse a  little bit perhaps yay Phillips coming right nice  

One Phillip get that get that flight locked in and  I’ll see you there excellent stuff all right so if   we’re considering that our race course has got two  boys upwind Mark we’ll call that the Windwood Mark  

And a downwind mark are there any special rules  that we need to be aware of at the Windwood Mark   generally speaking no um you know at at the sort  of starting level um there’s not anything uh that  

We need to worry about unduly because if we’re  coming into the mark on starboard attack like this if we’re on starboard Tac we have  right of way over any boats that are on Port

Tac so this is Port Tac this is starboard t Port  is because the wind is coming over the left side   of the boat first so we have right away if we’re  on starbo attack so this boat here doesn’t have  

Any rights to make us alter course as we go  round the boy good so far so in a port and   starboard incident at the Winward mark it is the  same as if the Mark wasn’t there so if somebody  

If he coming in perhaps if we oh let’s put him  back sorry there if we’re a little bit further   up here what he can’t do uh sorry his SES on the  wrong side is tack underneath us and then start  

Pushing up like this above his proper course you  know uh with the saes flapping to try to get round   the boy he can’t push the up like that if he’s  just tacked underneath us that’s the only extra  

Bit to that rule so port and starboard Windward  Mark Port has to give way to starboard so as we’re   coming in if you’re the port Tac boat and we’re  sort of back here and we can see that we’re on a  

Collision course this guy isn’t going to give  us any space to get through here so we need to   take some sort of action and maybe there’s some  other boats here um going back what we need to do  

Is look down the line of boats which are coming  in find our Gap and work out where we going to   attack to get around the boy but the best course  of action is actually to rewind from here take it  

Back before we put in the tack here and think  okay if we tack a little bit earlier so we’ve   gone up here on starboard maybe we’ll tack there  so if it’s a busy Fleet what we don’t want to be  

Doing is coming into the boy on what would  be called the port lay line lay line means um these are the angles that we could actually  hit the the boy on so we want to we don’t want  

To be coming in on the port lay line if it’s a  busy Fleet unless we’re coming first or we’re   coming last because at any other position  we’re likely to encounter heavy traffic   which aren’t going to give us any room much  better is to tack a good 10 boat lengths back  

Or more from the port lay line so when we come  in we’re going to have more space to maneuver to   get around the boy there we go that’s the  windward Mark so if we look at the lewood  

Mark this is where it gets more interesting and  this is definitely where um it gets interesting   even more if you’re in a mixed Fleet but  what we um what we have around the boy is   an imaginary three boo length Circle so it’s all  down to people’s judgment which is why sometimes  

There are these things called protests where  somebody thinks that you infringed a rule um   and you think that you didn’t and that is why  sometimes there’s a protest but let’s not talk   about that right now so if when a boat sails in  to this free boat length Circle if he is clear

Ahead of a boat to Windwood then the boat to  Windwood isn’t entitled to any room now this   is the same if you’re sailing the same type of  boat or if you’re sailing completely different   boats so perhaps you’re sailing your um your  12 meter classic yacht and there’s optimists  

On the race course um then it’s the same and for  the safety of this situation we’ll take the free   boat lengths from the bigger boat so it’ll be 3 *  12 meters 36 M if that was the situation and if if  

Boat one doesn’t have an overlap on boat two then  he’s not entitled to any space to go around on   the inside as we go around the boy if however and  I’m just going to illustrate this by extending his

Bows if if he has what’s called an overlap which  means the front of boat one’s boat is in front   of the back of boat two and what we take is we  take a line like this so if he has this overlap  

Then it means that boat one is entitled to  room to go around on the at the inside of   this boy is this good stuff I think so yes so  you’ve got rights and it’s always a good idea  

To do a bit of shouting on the race course so  in this situation boat one would shout to boat   two water at the Mark uh that is the general um  request uh boat two will say only too happy to  

Oblige and he then just hand has to give boat  one enough space to sail around the boy there   we go um and because of how the overlap  works if there was another boat coming in here now this boat has an overlap he’s inside  this line of both of these boats so this boat  

Has room to come in Jive take the inside line  around the boy now if we were sailing um in a   course where we’re going around the boy the other  way we might actually if you can imagine reversing  

This situation so this boat is actually come you  know here this boat is on starboard attack which   you might think well that’s straightforward then  but if this situation was reversed like if we’re   sailing um round a course that has a gate like  this so maybe going around this boy um the other

Way you might have a boat coming in  on starbo attac uh sorry on Port Tac   and he’s got rights to go around the boy  on the inside so that is one of the only   situations where boat on Port Tac has  right of way over a boat on starboard  

Tac there we go so I’m gonna leave that  there hope that helps there uh Zach and um okay uh what else in the live chat we got Ryan  on board in Maui great to have you with us Ryan  

Uh Dean said would you post d details for Ocean  Springs on the Discord server um yes I should do   I’m I’m not going to lie to you I haven’t visited  the Discord server for some time I hope it’s all  

Been going nicely over there um toot says Sailors  are so polite oh yes they are it’s a very it’s a   gentleman sport um at times very good uh something  else before I uh I um log off is you may have been  

Drawn uh your attention drawn to the fact that  I need help in designing a set of sales for a   Hobe 16 now there’s been a lot of chat actually on  Facebook about getting um I don’t know if you’ve  

Seen the work of uh Chris picn Who does these  amazing sales basically he gets plain sales and   then he paints them and they look absolutely  stunning I um it is really amazing what he’s   doing but um that is not what we’re into at this  uh on this occasion what we’re into is deciding  

On what the panel layout the colors should be  on my new spoiler alert I’ve been given uh a an   old Hobie 16 as a leaving present from wildwin  sailing holidays and it is what I am making my  

Project boat so part of this project is um to have  a new set of sales which chip at Whirlwind sales   is making me a set of sales but there is too much  choice of what colors they should be so I want you  

Guys to to choose what colors they should be I’ll  take everybody’s ideas and look at them all and   whatever I like the best is going to be the winner  whoever designs the winning sales which get made  

Not only do you have these bragging rights of  I designed those sales yes I’m the best um and   seeing them on all of the joy Rider 16 videos um  but also I’ll send you and your a t-shirt with  

Those color sales on those sale colors on the  t-shirt for you to just add to um this feeling   of success that you will be enjoying so there we  go get involved if you want to get involved in the  

Description of this video there are instructions  of what you need to do but um inside information   coming your way right now so even if you’ve  already submitted some sale colors you can put   in another um more ideas because I feel that the  more ideas that come my way the more chance there  

Is that there’s going to be something which really  pops and works for me better than anything else   and that is what I’m looking for here’s the inside  information the Hobie 16 they’ll be going on is   white good information this this is the first  announcement on this one but also on this project  

Boat I’m going to be supplied a trampoline from  Salt City sailing who I think make the best value   decent trampolines you can get for cataman which  aren’t um the original from the manufacturer now  

This is going to be the curveball the trampoline  is not going to be black it’s not going to be gray   it’s going to be an orange trampoline with gray  trim Yes you heard it here first so does that  

Influence Your Design maybe I don’t know but um  there we go here’s some other things that I’d like   to see a bit more of in the designs coming in is  perhaps having the jib not each panel a different  

Color maybe maybe the jib all one color maybe the  jib all one color apart from the top panel in a   different color that that might be nice um and I’d  have to say I do like a bit of white on the sale  

Not necessarily but it is something I’ve liked  in the past so there’s some inside information   which let’s call that a reward for being uh  watching the Q&A all the way to the end so I   would have to say thanks for sticking around and  um even if you’ve sent designs in already you can  

Put in some more um maybe just tweak the designs  you’ve already sent in if you like or brand new   or if you haven’t entered I just want to get as  many people entered as possible the deadline is  

Next Friday um so next Friday to’s Q&A so there  we go so thanks very much for tuning in thanks   for getting involved um get over to Total jooy  rider.com and get your 2024 Speed Stick t-shirt or  

Hoodie um because you need one and um I think it’s  a good idea um what else yeah I’ll be back soon   with some more um probably next Saturday today  is more likely the next Friday for the next q&  

A but uh just have a look on the channel and that  will let you know which day that is coming up once   I’ve decided thanks very much see you soon on Joy  Rider TV with some more thank you thank you dinner time

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