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Peyton Krebs for Scott Laughton is not a good trade for Sabres



Peyton Krebs for Scott Laughton is not a good trade for Sabres

Another lifeless game at KeyBank Center Sabers lose but we got some more trade rumors that can get us through Today’s show coming up here in the locked on Sabers Podcast you’re locked on Sabers your daily podcast on the Buffalo Sabers part of the locked on podcast Network your team every Day all right and thanks for making lock on Sabers your first listen every day we are free and available wherever you get your podcast part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time download the game time app

Create an account and use the code locked on for $20 off your first purchase for nothing Panthers over the Sabers as the Sabers are still 10 points out of a playoff spot and they fall to a Florida a team that has had their number in the last couple of Seasons a mature

Team a talented team I think the best team in the East not a surprise at all that they win that game and they win that game comfortably we’ve got new lines at practice that are super interesting going into Saturday’s game against the Minnesota Wild we have a new

Role and we have trade rumors a lot happening around pton Krebs right now and I want to get to him plus a trade rumor in the third segment of today’s show on maybe my favorite trade idea for the Sabers that was reported on by Kevin weeks last night and that is the

Availability of flames defenseman Rasmus Anderson that’s coming up a little bit later on in today’s show if you want to get involved with the show check out our text line go to join sub text.com loock ons saers and you can converse back and forth with us there we’re talking a lot

Right now about Scott lton and Payton Krebs and reaction to last night’s game the new lines there’s a lot going on there join sub text / lockdowns saers it’s the only time you get to go on the website and then everything else through your phone from there on in so 4 nothing

Let’s start with last night’s game amazing in backtack weeks the Sabers have set a record that they definitely don’t want to set last week against Dallas they set the record for the most shots on goal in a game in franchise history where they only scored one goal

Last night with 45 shots on Anthony stolar where they were shut out the Sabers set their franchise record for the most shots on goal in a game ever where they scored zero goals in back-to-back weeks the most shots ever scoring only once and the most shots ever only scoring well scoring none

Sweet that’s where we’re at the shot quality for the Sabers is just not there it is all coming from from the outside a lot of shot attempts from the point you had eight shots by Rasmus Dalene for instance in this game which is fine sometimes Dalene getting chances is a

Good thing he’s second in the league in goals by defenseman but too many shots from the point that are designed to cause havoc in front of the net where you need traffic in front of the net and there’s no traffic there’s nobody going to the net there’s nobody going to those

Dirty areas you need a little bit of that if that’s the style you’re going to play you can’t have it both ways if you’re going to have a skilled highflying lineup then you got to play that way you got to create chances that way if you are going to be a team that

Wants to get pucks to the net from the wall from the point then you better have a physical mature team that knows all right if we’re going to play that way the only way to score we got to charge the net we can’t let defenseman remove

Us from the front of the net we gota just you know we got to get rebound opportunities and that’s not the style of these forwards that the Sabers have so they’re completely I think crossed right now with what they’re looking for they need higher quality scoring chances

Or they need to change the makeup of their roster we’ll get to some of that a little bit later on in this one uh I thought they really missed Owen power on the night it was the first game where I thought that in the couple that powers

Missed here but the Sabers had a lot of trouble getting the puck out of their own end uh Bryson I thought had a lot of trouble with that I think Conor Clifton got thrust into that role a little bit more than you would want so that didn’t

Necessarily go well for him either but on the overall uh the blue line I did not think had a very good night and they did not have Uka lcan in for this game he was announced as having a day-to-day injury before the game he will play on Saturday against Minnesota so Full Speed

Ahead looks like from here the the worst part is they played the best team in the Eastern conf conference with Eric comry in goal and comry didn’t even play that bad he didn’t play that bad at all he l in three but it was two to nothing

Before that empty net that last goal just wipe it out whatever there was 10 seconds left and they were put short-handed so who cares he only allowed two real goals in this game that’s fine you get two goals against by Eric Comer against Florida you better win that hockey game and they were

Clearly not able to do so um so yeah not a not a fun night a pretty dead night in the arena the hot looked good the Mr worldwide hot dog you had the uh you know the Cuban sandwich kind of theme for of course South Florida but not an

Overall strong performance by the Sabres whatsoever at all I don’t really even know how else to you know to make it sound better uh Sam Reinhardt didn’t score my parlay didn’t hit for last night so apologies there but uh part of the reason it didn’t hit is Sam

Reinhardt decided to pass the puck off at the end of the game where he could have had the empty Netter that would have had his 40th goal of the year come against his former team against his former fans and you know a couple of thoughts on that one I thought did

Reinhardt have it in his head at all all the things that have been said about him over the years in Buffalo about he doesn’t have a great attitude or whatever because there he’s like yeah here’s this attitude look how good of a teammate I am as I pass it over to my

Other guy and be unselfish here by other thought was what what if Reinhardt just did the uh the Ridley Greg thing from Ottawa the other night he just took a full-on slap shot into the net because listen the way it went in Buffalo I mean

I guess why would he want a Pyon right like does he have hate for Buffalo does he have hate for the Sabers he’s probably wanted out I mean was sick of playing here it’s not fun uh I could understand that I don’t think he necessarily hates the fans or the team

Um so I guess you know taking a slap shot there wouldn’t have been great for anybody uh Ryan lomberg then by the way scored to make it 4 nothing at the end and what is Ryan lomberg doing 10 seconds to go and you’re mad chirping the Sabers bench I know this these two

Teams get feisty against each other but that game was not feisty there was nothing really happening so unless I miss something that gave lomberg a reason to want to go off on the Sabers bench I don’t know he got tossed out of the game looking like an idiot pretty

Quickly on there um hey he’s not a bad fourth line player but that’s well he is so you know get over yourself it was 40 against a team that there’s no fans left get get out of there who cares that’s what happened in the game Minnesota tomorrow night five o’clock puck drop on

The road before returning home on Monday night against uh the Ducks at 12:30 okay when we come back new lines at practice a firsttime centerman potentially for the Sabers and a lot of stuff involving Payton Krebs both a new role and trade wormers coming back here on the locked

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The top sports stories of the day check it out on the free Fire TV channels app Sabers and Panthers doesn’t go their way 4 nothing Florida on to Minnesota new lines at practice on Friday and it’s as though Don Granado was listening to me on the radio on wgr Friday morning I had

A little bit of a rant on Friday morning ranting about the role of pton Krebs who is a guy I have talked up over the years and have really not loved the usage of I don’t really know if anyone has a good idea of what Payton KBS is as a player

Because I still don’t believe he’s been tried enough in the role that he was supposed to play when he was drafted and when he was traded for Payton Krebs went 17th overall in the 2019 NHL draft was a top prospect even before that remember he had an ailles injury might would have

G on the top 10 probably in that draft had he not then was targeted by the sabes in Jack eel trade negotiations was a sticking point the Sabers wanted to ensure he was going to be a part of that trade when he was drafted that high and

When he was traded with that forth with that sort of value it was because of his ability as a playmaker he was one of the best passers in his draft class when he came out and he has not been properly experimented in the roles in the lines that would would allow him to

Show or develop that type of game so far 186 games in the NHL 59 points not a lot but here’s where my defense often will begin with Payton Krebs how can you expect a guy who is expected to be or is a natural born playmaker setup man

Passer expected to put up numbers when he’s on the fourth line playing with fourth Liners in the last three seasons here are pton Krab’s most common line mates in the amount of minutes that he has played with them number one Kyle aoso 1,2 minutes together number two zus gearson 728 minutes together number

Three Victor Olson 54 4 minutes now at least olison is a bit of a shooter but one two three aoso garson’s Olson coincidentally the three guys that nobody wanted to see back on this team this year the three guys that they most need to move on from in this forward

Group are the three he’s played the most with by a good margin because you’ve got aoso at a th000 gearit is a 700 and olison at 500 then a big drop he’s played 372 minutes with Dylan cousins about a third of what he’s played with Oso he’s played 310 minutes with middle

Stat 295 minutes with petka you keep scrolling down 163 with Skinner I mean Tage he’s only at 119 like he just doesn’t get a lot of opportunities with the top scorers on this team to me pton Krebs is a representative of the future problem that we have talked a lot about

On this show which is all of these prospects that are on their way Noah osland Yuri Kik Matthew seavoy Isaac Roseanne these four few first round pick guys that are tracking towards making the NHL sometime soon do you have room for them do you have spots for them or

Are they blocked Krebs is a prime example of this Krebs who was the best Prospect in the Vegas organization became ready for the n in Buffalo and he showed up and Tage middle stat cousins filled in the one two three Center spots blocked you’re the only thing left for

You Payton Krabs is the fourth line good luck with zus and aoso because that’s your role for the next three years that’s what happened to Payton Krebs and now his trade his name is in the trade rumors if they traded pton Krebs tomorrow instead of trading off middle

Stat or tra in someone else of bigger value what’s going to happen Isaac Roseanne’s going to show up or better let’s think of one of the centers uh seavoy or Kulik or osen these guys are going to show up and what’s gonna be left for them krebs’s rooll and

That’s a fourth line roll where you don’t produce a lot and look what’s happened with Krebs his value is not that high I’m seeing Elliot Freeman talk about Krebs Plus something for Scott lton in Philadelphia who put it up for our YouTube Watchers right now Scott

Lton not a good hockey player Scott lton some of the advanced numbers are horrid here’s the chart from J fresh hockey wins above replacement 9 pertile he’s one of the worst players in the league and he’s not a good two-way player defense is actually where he’s been bad

For Philadelphia this year under John torella penalty kill he’s been horrible 29 years old he’s more of a fourth liner making $3 million not having a good season Krebs plus something gets that guy because two years ago three years ago Payton Krabs is worth a good amount

As a prospect the Sabres have kind of killed his value by playing him in a fourth line role same thing might happen with the next first round picks if you don’t clear spots for them if you continue to block them and not give them opportunities now

And by the way if they traded pton Krebs and something for Scott lton I mean we’re we’re burning the place to the ground I mean I are you kidding that would be Sam Ventura who heads their analytics Department uh I I I mean could that guy work there anymore could he

Live with himself if they made that trade to trade for one of the worst players in the NHL for a guy in Krebs who by the way not only does he not play with anybody um but he last night against Florida there’s two really nice playmaker players play one where he tow

Drags a defenseman he comes into the zone and then he finds Victor Olson on the right wall for a one-time should him at a goal he had another one where he got set up behind the net he found Dalene out in the slot and Dalene wasn’t

Able to score but it was a really nice chance I he’s got moves he’s got hands he’s got skill now it’s like they were listening to that rant that I did which was a version of what I just said this morning on wgr because almost immediately after

After here’s some new lines from Don Granado at practice on Friday and Don Granado who the one my favorite thing about Don Granado as during his time as Sabers head coach has been his willingness to try things to experiment and I mean you the prime example of that

Is moving Tage Thompson to Center when he hadn’t really played center since early in his college career so you had that you had Sam Reinhardt get moved to Center in Granado’s first year which I loved and been calling for for a long time Granado was the one open-minded

Enough to try that and you’ve had other examples over time too but here’s what Granado’s got for Friday practice let’s start with Krebs as we’re talking about him Krebs again like he’s listening moved off the fourth line he put gurgenson at Center to to make up for

That he’s got pton Krebs between JJ p and Zack Benson now Benson’s not scoring a lot this year but PKA Best Line mate you could I think ask for Krebs right now both guys have speed petka is the goal scorer petka is the finisher and Krebs is the playmaker I

Really like those two together Benson and Krebs have played together they played together in juniors I think for a little bit so I like this combination it gives Krebs an opportunity to have more of an offensive role and let’s face it the way Tage Thompson’s playing lately

And the way cousins has played all year they could use some more offense from the center position it’s kind of amazing that given that two of their top three centers have had pretty bad seasons and not once has Krebs had an opportunity to fill in the offensive void that they

Have left I shouldn’t say not once there was like a game or maybe two really early in the season where they moved Krabs to the win in the top of the lineup but they didn’t stick with it what they need to do is put Krebs on an offensive line like that

And just leave it especially now they’re not GNA make the playoffs anyway just leave it let it simmer a little bit see if you get some some improvement there even if it’s not working in the first couple of games so I hope they stick with Krebs PKA and Benson for a while

Now the other really weird thing that I saw at practice and I’ve been looking to see if there’s a correction by anybody that’s been made if this was just listed wrong I was not at practice I saw it from a couple of different media reporters um maybe we’re going to see

Alex tuck at Center again Matthew Fairburn tweeted out that tuck was at Center between Thompson and Skinner I think that might just be a misprint we’ll keep you updated we’ll see what’s going on there it could just be a a miss you know type on a tweet from one

Reporter is all it is but I saw that and I thought that might be interesting Thompson on the wing remember he played well on the wing last year when he came back from injury tuck at Center I mean I’ve never seen Tuck play center but

He’s big and he can skate and he is a great four Checker he’s a good two-way player I mean there’s nothing about tuck game that makes me think he couldn’t play center he just to my knowledge has never done it before so we’ll see if we

Get anything on that front either but of course the most interesting part about the practice lines definitely the Krebs is now centering an offensive line uh between uh Zack Benson and JJ PKA Lucan in again will be ready to go on Saturday against Minnesota when we come back

Another trade rumor much more uh fun to think about than Krebs and something for Scott lton uh coming out of Calgary and a guy that I love and have done a whole show on we’ll come back with that here in the locked on Sabers podcast we are

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All year and finally we get a little bit of a something something from a reporter that tells us that he could be available for trade right now Kevin weeks ESPN tweeted last night that in addition to Noah hanifen and Chris tanov he is told that Rasmus Anderson is now drawing

Interest as well 27 years old $4.5 million annually for the next two years two years after this season and he’s just a very good right shot defenseman perfect there’s actually uh if you’re someone that doesn’t know a lot about his game it’s only it’s from the 2020 21 season

But there’s a 16-minute YouTube video if you type in Rasmus Anderson uh even just put Anderson Flames highlights how I found it 16-minute video showing passing plays shooting plays block shots defensive plays because a lot of times when you try to go to YouTube and find

Like okay what I I don’t I don’t watch this defenseman enough what’s he like and you’ll get fights and you’ll get goals and that’s it but this video shows you how good he is defensively and i’ this season I’ve been watching more of Calgary than ever because I know they’re

A team that’s going to make a lot of Trades and I want to see what some of these guys got I am so impressed by Anderson on a night toight basis he is such a good Puck mover he’s a good skater he’s physical I mean I don’t want

To say this is a positive I guess but if you’re wondering how physical he is he got suspended earlier in the year for flying through the air like a missile and destroy in Patrick l he got suspended for that so he’s got physicality and size he has a big shot

He’s a very good power play mover I’ll say that about him now I don’t know that they need that over Dalene they could use it on the second unit but there are a lot of little plays he makes on a power play that just keeps things flowing that keeps it moving and uh

Could be helpful for the Sabers on special teams as well plays a lot of minutes you know I I think he’s going to be expensive to trade for because if I’m Calgary I don’t want to lose him I don’t want to move on from him and the

Sweetener on top of this is we always have questions about whether the Sabers can convince guys to come here and wave their no trade clause well luckily Anderson doesn’t have a no trade clause until July first of this year so they could trade for him now and not

Technically need his permission to sign off on it so if Anderson is available which Kevin weeks is reporting that they’re drawing interest on Anderson the sabers have to make him a buffalo saber he would just be perfect top pair with Dalene two Swedish defenseman leading the charge for the next couple of years

At least again the age works out style works out there’s nothing about Anderson that doesn’t fit for me there’s no part of it and the Sabres have more assets than anybody if he is truly to be traded at some point they’ve got to out bit everybody else they cannot let him get

Traded to a different team he’s too perfect they can’t let it happen even if you’ve got a way overpay I say do it if you need if you think you have the best bid out there but Calgary’s going yeah but we kind of want to do right by the

Player and he kind of prefers going to Washington so you know if it’s only the difference of a pick uh or a a small difference in a prospect we might rather just you know go with Washington if I’m Kevin Adams my next responses we’ll throw in Isaac Roseanne we’ll throw in

This this thing we’ll throw in this like got to do it you got to pull it off even if you have to outbid by a good amount over other teams this is the guy they cannot let him get traded to another team if he’s available this has to be

The Sabers big trade of either the the deadline or of the offseason the guy don’t let it happen don’t let it happen that he winds up on another team it’ll be more disheartening for me than it was when Chan got traded to to uh Ottawa last year for not much I think

Anderson’s an even better idea than that was at the time so we’ll see what happens we’ll keep you updated uh Hey I just said I have no no interest at all in trading pton Krebs to uh Philadelphia for Scott lton but if Calgary wants pton

Krebs as part of a uh Anderson deal I don’t know you want to do Anderson a first round pick uh excuse me Krebs a first round pick and Matthew seavoy am I going too far I mean I like the player enough where even that is something that I would really

Think about and I think other teams would have a really tough time out bidding that seavoy a first round pick and Payton Krabs and you’d still have a lot of prospects left over so we’ll see what happens Calgary their season rolls along really if you want these guys

Traded off of Calgary you want to root against the Flames because the worse their season gets the more likely of course they are to kind kind of start things over they are currently Five Points out of a playoff spot but they are also behind they have to pass four

Teams to get into it they’ve lost two in a row six of the last 10 so route against Calgary maybe they’ll give us no uh no uh uh Anderson Rasmus Anderson that’s it for us today here in the lockd on Sabers podcast I will really hope

That I’m not talking to you next after Payton Krabs for Scott lton Trade Sabers and wild Saturday night a team that’s made the playoffs here’s your Sabers droughty of the day 10 Minnesota Wild playoff appearances since the last Sabers playoff appearance not great we’ll see them Saturday thanks for

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There are rumors about the Philadelphia Flyers and Sabres center Peyton Krebs, as well as the Sabres and Flyers forward Scott Laughton. UH OH. Sneaky Joe warns of a Krebs-Laughton trade as a very very very bad idea for Kevyn Adams. With Krebs also playing on a line now with JJ Peterka and Zach Benson, will the Sabres get more out of him offensively?

Plus, Joe’s favorite trade idea Rasmus Andersson is reportedly available for trade in Calgary.
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25 Comments

  1. Peyton krebs, is so underwhelming. The media tries to hype him up as some gritty forward, seems to me like he just goes through the motions most nights.

  2. I don't understand the 'lifeless' comment – they skated and shot like crazy, and basically got goalied. There was one very obvious bad screwup by Krebs – made a good pass for another sabre to shoot but instead of actually going then to the net went way wide left, like his job was done. THAT is what needs to be improved.

  3. Gotta give up something to get something, Adams need to pull the triger to shake up this lineup and get some fresh blood in

  4. I HAVE BEEN PREACHING IT INTO A HUGE BLACK HOLE, SABRES STICK KREBS W/ TERRIBLE LINEMATES FROM THE JUMP AND EXPECT HIM TO CARRY LINES!!!!! his linemates have always been terrible and has never gotten a chance to prove it with our better prospects, if you put krebs with benson and another one of our prospects like savoie or rosen next year it will show you just how good of a puck mover krebs is, when his only option is to dump it into the zone and chase, he just doesn't have the frame to play that type of game, he uses his feet and stick skill to let teammates get open and then he can make those passes into tight zones, but let's just glue him to the 4th line in the chippy dump and chase roll with all the slow non scoring wingers and force him into that role, just look at what krebs does for eric robinson, those two actually look good together and that's because robinson skates to the net and tries to get open. Krebs is a play creator and sabres front office want to force him into the shutdown 4th liner, its like head coaches in the nfl trying to make athletic scrambling qbs into pocket passers.

  5. Id take Scott Laughton but not for Krebs , no thanks. How about for a prospect like Isak Rosen and a 3rd round pick. Put Laughton at centre on the 4th line next season with Greenway and Eric Robinson . Krebs becomes the 3rd line centre if Casey Middelstadt is traded for a D man like Rasmus Andersson Calgary or Colton Parayko St louis . If Casey Middelstadt isnt traded then put Krebs on the wing on the 4th line and move Eric Robinson to spare forward .
    Thanks for the video .

  6. Buffalo sabres should just trade for anything at this point..adams should make a big push before the trade deadlind and in return I hope it brings good value to the roster.

  7. Are you kidding about credit Grannato for experimenting after how you talk about Krebs being held back. Grannato keeps experimenting because he can't get anything right. Don't get rid of any young players.

  8. If they trade Peyton Krebs for Scott Laughton, I am not a Sabres fan anymore until Kevyn Adams is gone. Don’t do it

  9. Just embarrassing, they are just not hard to play against at all. Most nights opponents have it easy and very rarely have to pay a price.

  10. I've tuned out. I watch this for snow blow joe's bad trade ideas and sperg moments tho. ❤

  11. You would have to add a draft pick just to get rid of Krebs. He’s better off just playing in Rochester and the Sabres just release him when his contract is up. The Eichel trade has really blown up in the Sabres face. Both guys are hurting the team and have no trade value.

  12. move Thompson to wing to open spot for a young center…only reason Thompson is playing center is Sabres had no centers….they now have several center options

  13. The highlight of that night was the "GO leafs go" chant and that guy up in the nose bleeds wearing neon green yelling "FIRE DONNY MEATBALL"! This team is embarrassing

  14. Krebs is nothing more than a good skating 4th line winger. If he's playing anywhere else in your lineup then you have a terrible team. On the checking line he averages 1 hit a game or 1 hit in the 12-16 shifts he plays.

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