Is Patrick Mahomes Now The Goat? + Stu Feiner’s Insane Gambling Life
So you’ve had to make a couple calls over your during your time oh I’ve had to make like 40 calls that I can’t tell any of them that’s the only soft one I can tell yeah I’ve made a lot of calls you can make calls still I have no
Choice I’ve made a lot of things yeah a lot of really disgusting ugly like holy [ __ ] like how did that how can you live with yourself and you do what you got to doting on a game no woman’s going to tell tell us what to do and i’ been over
Here just drinking beer and making that noise baby I’m hanging with the fell busting with the boys bro there you go there it is good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome back to another episode of busting with the boys episode 261 won after the conference championships let’s go boys
We had a hell of a lot of ball today we are going to get into the conference championships Mitch is going to have himself a massive possible Redemption day when it comes to the Twisted question of the week presented by Twisted T if you need one of those 5%
ABV we don’t talk about right now but what else we got I is there anything else I mean we’re the we’re prepping yeah yeah we had St finer incredible interview the interview’s like two hours and 45 minutes tayor and I collectively probably spoke 5 minutes so 2 hours and
40 minutes of St finer it is absolutely like you can put yourself in walk yourself through like you’re watching a movie yeah a mafia movie if you are good you’re watching on YouTube and when Stu comes on for two hours and 45 minutes just close your eyes and picture in your
Head that’s all you got to do in this situation really is or Rumble what’s that Rumble yes rumble or rumble or if you’re on rumble or YouTube YouTube or Rumble you do whatever you want do what you want well I can’t do that hey and and they and they call to action
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When you start from the ground floor on a different platform and that’s all up to you guys you guys do what you want in that thing but let’s get right into it boys let’s talk uh do you have something oh for real today as in Monday
Or today is in is in Tuesday okay all right so if you’re listening to this right now me eater the boy and I we went up to Montana I know it’s awesome we went up there with a couple of the meater guys we went on a duck hunt it
Was we we were definitely fish out of water in a couple situations we did solid now no no no we we did well now they have a vlog that’s coming out that’ll show all of that boys did pretty solid yeah Steve cow C’s dog uh Steve
Was Steve is truly when you watch the show alone he’s the he’s the Victor every single time he’s the guy that can just put things together I think we told the story about the beaver but literally like me JP will we were sitting in his truck with him like his three kids
Watching him essentially put together traps and all that after the hunt thinking we’re going okay now we’re going to go eat some food like we’re a little hungry like okay now haven’t eaten yet today dad’s taking us to finally go eat some food stay warm and
All of a sudden he he pulls off into a graveyard and just gets a scent starts getting on some Beaver scent I like hey there’s been this Beaver around here tearing some stuff up I’m go check it out for the boy on some neighbor stuff just on some good neighbor stuff parkour
Is over a fence starts ripping down I try to hop the fence it hurt the [ __ ] out of my knee hey we’ll stay up here Steve yeah fat boy did back over but it was it was an incredible time hope you guys tune into that meat eater podcast
And that I hate I’m embarrassed to say this but I did not know I knew that they were big I did not know that their brand was what it was great point and I was I was pump they checked me I was wearing the wrong gear when I walked in won’t
Shout out cuz no free shout outs to that brand now they’re they’re an enemy because you want to support the mediator brand um but they check you right when you walk in when we posted our photo that we were doing a collab with me eater I feel like that night we were
Talking about the next day all of my buddies that were just hitting me up saying oh you’re doing a meater collab like when’s that coming out are you actually doing the show or you just doing the podcast I’m thinking I have no clue they just want to do a collab so
We’re just out here ready to go duck hunting and I’m feeling kind of bad because I’m like a once a year fluff kind of Hunter like would love to get into doing it yeah I check the box I give it the boys we have a good time but
I’m not like a true through and through Hunter all year round like a lot of my friends are hitting me up so part of me feels bad that I’m getting to experience the meat eater collaboration versus them but uh I didn’t know that they were as
Massive as they were and that’s on me that’s on me but I’m glad that we are now friends I love I love being out there with them the good news is you don’t have to should shoulder that burden alone because I definitely had a
Couple of boys out in a uh Ken proin and Bo Campbell to be specific that were like holy [ __ ] you’re doing that these guys are always trying to get ask for this and that and they’re out every day in the winter time trying to hunt up at
5: a.m. like truly living it and we essentially went glamping like we did some man stuff and we did all the things that all the real men want we did some man stuff all the things that the real men want to do we kind of just cut the
Line and got to do it so you’re shouldering the burden with that the story about your hunting guys it was a heartbreaker for me when you when they were talking about how they should go out with the meater guys yeah we were we were at our annual Texas hunting trip
And it happened in December and then we were sitting around the fire and they were talking like hey one of these times we should go up to Montana and get in touch with with Steve and see if we can do a hunt out there and I’m just
Thinking like yeah boys about that I think bus with the boys were going out there next month like oh no [ __ ] they were like they were awesome about it but I was like yeah your boy’s already doing that the least Hunter of this entire crew and I had an ex- teammate Jake Wes
Shout out Jake Wes he was a punter at nebrask and he’s like bro I I love everything busting that you guys do but this is by far Head and Shoulders Above the Rest my most excited collab to see you guys do it’s going to be awesome yeah Graham Glascow who was just playing
The NFC Championship last night texted me it was like Frank ragn now is in my ear about get like just please say something to them about Frank ragn now Frank was in was in the comments when we were posting the stuff on Instagram yeah because you know Frank he’s like he’s
About it he’s been a Fisher I’m pretty I’m guessing Hunter like he’s all the stuff Outdoors out he’s an outdoors he’s blanket statement that he belongs on a place like media yeah and I believe he has his own YouTube channel and everything like that and cuz we kind of
Telling the meater boys if they’re dipping their toes and like you know taking on athletes like obviously in football there’s so many guys there’s so many Outdoorsman that they could kind of do something similar they did with us and kind of just take other guys like
You know Frank have Frank out host Frank yeah um it was it was go check that podcast out yeah that’ll be awesome dude really ex excited to see because they were actually talking about coming down to the South too and talked about noodling which you were I’m not going to
Speak for your own emotions but it wasn’t the number one thing you wanted to do sometimes you got to you got to draw a line in the sand and I feel like noodling yeah or the waters I feel like noodling like sticking your arm in one
Of them the mud holes just that doesn’t wouldn’t be the first time you did it um but yeah no noodling for your boy I don’t think I’m sure I can be talked into it but I truly am going to be terrified you got to get gritty dude pop
Off one of those big teeth and just like dive into the culture of getting of noodling first scary movie of my life Anaconda oh so anac God that movie is so good so good an and that was right around the same time like Leake Placid
Came out right yeah Le PL was a few years later but yeah same definitely the same era that same yes that was my biggest fear is snakes that is my of all the animals in the Kingdom of animals like that is the number one like the serpents like JP Bible like they
Call top of the devil they talk about serpents right like why the [ __ ] are we like letting these things around here just rip around willy-nilly there’s a guy on Instagram and I hate I I don’t hate that we’re giving a bunch of shout outs but there’s a guy on
Instagram who goes to the Florida Everglades with his bare feet I love him yeah t loves him too and he’s just like oh look a small little thing anac a python for fores python 20 foot Noy he’s like I’ll pull him up yeah he’s on a
Hunt for a 20 foot uh python he caught like a 19 one the one tries to get him he does this like acrobatic jump out of the way and snatches it by like the top of the head and catches it dude’s walking through Florida with no shoes on
Will so he he’s like look at this little swamp puppy right here it’s just a crocodile 3 feet from him look at this swamp puppy yeah this is him right there this that’s look at that in the everl he’s in the swamp with his feet like
That dude he’s just a he’s just Old Testament he he’s yeah yeah he’s out of he’s a chosen one yeah this kid look at him look see like there [ __ ] my pants yeah like that to me it’s like yo you’re you’re reaching your hand in this hole
Like anything could be in there we’re talking snapping we haven’t gotten in a snapping turtle snapping turtles take a finger no problem dude maybe even look at that and his dialogue during it too is pretty funny cuz he’s so he just plays everything down so much but it is
It’s a it’s a wild deal but yeah I think D if I want we went out there again did you noodle yeah I would do it you were kind of like about it I I like I I wanted to just stand strong like hey guys this is going to be a long uphill
Like I truly don’t think I’ll do this unless a couple of you guys already go and then I I’ll stick my hand in there couple of therapy sessions because I know very little about noodling but I do know that people have told me if it’s a circle that’s where your catfish is if
It’s an oval which very similar shapes I know if it’s an oval that’s when you’re in snapping turtle Central that’s the only thing I know about noodling the idea of being underwater holding your breath you’re tugging away with this 20 PB catfish is scary but I view it the
Same way as like what comes out of the oval snapping turtle and I could be totally wrong chat hit me up chat let us know but I I will say like I I put noodling in the same category as skyd like sitting here on this bus right now
I say yes I do it but I’m sure once I got to the moment it’d be [ __ ] bricks type of situation very nervous type of situation might break your arm too you could break your arm falling down the stairs brother like I guess you could like die like you could have like
A malfunction and skydiving but I I feel like the skydiving look at the size of that thing oh my 84 pound catfish imagine chugging a beer off that thing y’all’s children maybe combined that is actually biger than both my children combined that’s nuts but he went in that
Deep of water did you guys noodle say we did a uh say they came down and we did like another mediator collaboration with them doing catfishing like if we backed out we’ be able to throw one of the boys in there yes it’s the snapping turtle
Thing that gives me a little bit of the the Willies the oval that finger or toe to like a alligator snapping turtle sounds horrible see I think that honestly what it’s not the end of the world to me finger your arm yes like you start losing your hand but just stick with me
For a second you lose a toe you you lose like to that first knuckle of like a pinky finger or a ring finger that’s kind of cool it’s kind of cool because now you got a story forever he shake your hands like yo what’s the deal with comp oh
Yeah he lost that finger how did it happen no one’s ever really asked him but now there’s a Mystique about you there’s a little something different you know yeah but once you get in the conversation they’re like oh man so you kind of you you do all the outdoors new
And you’re just like no I haven’t been you say no I haven’t been ever since you lie to their faces you lie to their faces immediately yo bro I really do all that yeah I’m actually going out swim of sharks next week you’re not gonna you’re going go sit in the air conditioned
House but look at that thing that’s not just taking a pink no that you know you’re showing a big boy a big hos guy I small small snapping turtle she had it bad there you go yeah I’m sure is deep oval hole dude that’s all that thing’s
Doing that thing’s giving you a Manny Petty that’s not a big deal at all who’s that guy that uh two- turn Tony is that his name he’s got a duck but he’s also got a video he catches a snapping turtle like rolls one of his his te’s towards it dude remember snaps
It and it just the the can flies like a mouse trap remember when we were talking to that Amazonian psychopath in New York the waiter yeah yes bro that was the most unique conversation like NPC type [ __ ] yeah he like overheard us I don’t even know what we were talking about but
This guy was talking saying that you go to these certain jungles in the world and it’s it’s essentially like all the oversized animals you can think of right I think it was specifically Forest you ever heard about that yeah I’ve heard about that there’s monsters massive anacondas everywhere like just massive
Animals this this uh this shop this breakfast spot is right next to uh barol HQ in New York yeah and we went there we flew and we grabbed a bitee before we went JP yeah and we’re just sitting there having a meal and our waiter comes up and starts having a conversation with
Us about I don’t even know if we were really talking about it but he’s from Brazil or someplace in South America where the Amazon forest is and he talks about these tribes that are in the forest that like people go in but they do not come back out this this guy from
Rogan or you talking about a waiter waiter in New York and he’s talking about anacondas that make like trenches like legit have like their slithering marks I don’t know what those are called their track marks are legit like seems like 18 wheelers drove through there that’s you know we were talking about
Tell me uh uh iasa that’s exactly what we’re talking about he talking about how Euphoria like how euphoric everything is and then you started talking about these jungles and yeah that’s another that is another mediator podcast yeah but that you brought up another thing that I would
That IA is something that I would like to do but I feel when the moment came to do it I would be very nervous what am I going to find out about myself am I ever going to be the same yeah like I but I think it’s very like the idea of like
Headed to Joshua Tree and you have like a guide and you sit there and you take whatever iasa is and then you go walk around and he just takes you on he like essentially teaches you about yourself while you’re high and probably vomiting everywhere yeah I think you do you you
Vomit everywhere I don’t know I really don’t know but there’s there’s stories of these these um people that farm in in Malibu Malibu California that have like they take you on IA trips like they they are guides up there in the hills of Malibu I think that’d be kind of tight
To figure out yeah but I I’m saying it now and I think it’s cool but I think the minute it came to me I’d be a little more nervous um wouldn’t be as nervous as you guys if you’re looking to look at the big game if you’re trying to jump
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Prices and that is a guarantee boys shout out to everybody who showed up last night for the for the little reaction stream we did that was awesome once again dude we’ve dipped our toe into the streaming live streaming world and the tier ones have showed up for us
Yeah yeah yeah we wanted to do a little test run on one of the was just championship week I don’t think we’re not going to do it after the Super Bowl I I don’t believe but we could we wanted to get a little test out there shout out
Mitz JP you guys kind of running that thing last night yeah the boys uh men JP at the shop I know I saw that I saw you guys rocking at the shop you guys were rock that that’s that’s very cool if you guys to do but do you want to tell the
Fans how you felt about it after after after the live stream what were you were saying you’re thinking this is might be more of a thing we do consistently maybe we next looking at yeah yeah yeah yeah we wanted to get that tester kind of flirt with
The idea of potentially doing it next year obviously games get over way later so we’ll have to check on our bed times because we are old men uh in this day and age but yes it could be something that uh we dip our toe in next year consistently on a consistent basis so
Shout out to everybody who uh who watched this recap Championship weekend we can cover it a little bit um Chiefs I mean it’s they’re they’re inevitable yeah they’re inevitable and I know Raven fans are still waking up this morning really upset probably still upset with
Me you saw you saw my little tweet I posted out about Bubba 412 I mean you can tell he makes bad life decisions based on the Maryland tattoo on his chest and his profile picture guy was talking all kinds of trash hit me again in the DM saying haha you’re going to
Have to try better than that listen I don’t got to try much hard yeah you got to love the fight and I I respect it University of Arizona I don’t know if the kids from Arizona but good for him Ravens fans you guys will get there the
Issue is is you’re in the same conference as the baby goat and the referees I’m just saying the referees gam some back call and there was one bad Z flowers fumbled Z flowers fumbled but man he doesn’t fumble said if he breaks the plane yeah you win the game yeah you
You you win that game the the penalties that were called and there was the conspiracy did you guys see week going up to this the conspiracy theories about the refs these refs are that were uh calling this game the AFC champ the AFC Championship Game apparently do like 30%
More calls on the home team than any other ref reing crew in all of the NFL there was there was legit conspiracy theories going on about this how uh the NFL wants needs Travis Kelce Taylor Swift Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl and so this this uh
Officiating crew was put in place to help guide that now you want that though yeah what you do want like the most advantageous for all parties involved is momes Kelsey Swift yeah there was also a uh a thing I saw on Instagram this morning and obviously I’m getting my
News from Instagram but who knows if it’s really real or not NFL the revenue generated since Taylor Swift has been in introduced into the NFL this year it’s like 33 million it might even be $333 million like I I forget if I’m missing a zero or not there’s no question she’s
ALS she’s also are creating jobs like uh this will be the most watch Super Bowl of all time of all time the tickets to this game cheapest one’s n Grand cheapest one is $99,000 this is not the year to not be in the league buddy no
Not that we sell no you can’t sell them for the NFL rules you can’t sell but if you wanted to as players you get them at wholesale price and you’re able to handle yourself you know yeah give them to a family member or something give them to a family member for $99,000 if
That family member is well off and uh yeah D I mean we have a whole live reaction show on this if you guys want to go tune into that uh we had obviously will already touched on how many people came in watch it was it was awesome but
This game it’s it’s truly just Patrick Mahomes man hey and on the Taylor swi creating jobs like Kyle juice Che how do you say you Che K you Che his wife like she’s been doing designing all the you know she designs basically like fan gear for like the women who are supporting
Their their other on the field give more flowers than that they take jerseys game worn jerseys and she implements them into jackets shirts different types of clothing apparel it’s incredible and then she made one for Taylor Swift just to make one on the low like because obviously she can’t sell this stuff
Because it’s licensed and everything else but you’re just wearing it again to support you’ve seen uh KD she obviously uh Kyle’s wife reps it KD repped it she made one for Taylor Swift she walks to the game with this jacket on where the Jersey she put the Jersey over the
Jacket and since then overnight gained like half a million followers and the NF I believe is licensing a deal with her to make that kind of gear that’s incredible you dud it is that awesome use che’s wife yeah she’s just like in like all that like the Arts and crafting
Of making all this stuff up I’m sure uh I’m sure you’ll be looking at it on the screen right now but she kind of does this for a lot of the wives and girlfriends in the NFL just to like do it for fun uh but now it’s caught win
Because Taylor Swift wore it to a game and now she’s got to deal with the NFL to like make this gear yeah there’s only one big loser in this whole Taylor Swift Saga and it’s big cat like she she has won she’s won everybody’s Hearts I think
I think at first we were a little kind of peeved like hey this is a little too much like let’s get back to the game a little bit Mitch was so pissed off in the beginning was he like oh it takes away from the guys who’ve been working
Their whole lives to get on the the screen after they score a touchdown and show Taylor Swift it was that it was that one time when uh Pacho scored and immediately it went to uh Taylor Swift in it was in his hometown too right no
It was in uh when they were playing the Jets okay like the first game she was at but that part Mitch was livid they they’ve gotten better at we almost didn’t have a podcast that week cuz Mitch couldn’t calm down yeah yeah he’s like alista I’m not going to produce
This episode Taylor Swift though because the broadcast put her on last night and you can see her in the suite looking at the TV seeing herself in like real time and you can see her mouth go away like she’s like getting annoyed herself being put on the broadcast so dud she seems
Like a I’ll just say this she seems like a real one dog thank you for saying that do you not JP com what you gonna say I don’t have I have no idea if she’s a real one I just you think it could still be theatrics the relationship yeah no the
Relationship could be real but I just I’m I’m just not the biggest Taylor Swift fan I don’t like hater but you like your music my I think she she she puts out bangers all that stuff but it’s and I know they’re teaching classes about Taylor Swift now in college like
Marketing brand management like all the stuff how she blew up but I just think like there’s so many more talented people in that industry than Taylor Swift and it just I don’t know sometimes I’m like man like that’s a hater that’s hater I I think she makes good music you
Can have incredibly talented people that don’t have the drive to push in the direction she did though Taylor Swift started as a 16-year-old girl singing Tim McGraw and put it yeah put out an album and then had the had the capability and the wherewithal to Pivot
From country music and now go into this electric pop star that has taken over the entire world to project herself into the three comma category in the bank account and going after big label yes I don’t know much about that I was with you see but that’s a
Whole big label created her that’s what I’m saying if without scooter Bron without like that marketing machine does somebody she’s a great songwriter does somebody with that level of talent make it all the way to the top yes they screwed her but ultimately it went really well for her but we’re not
Talking about the top we’re we’re talking about two continental divides clashing together and growing and growing growing just like Mount Everest Taylor Swift has taken the top to a new level who’s the other uh two who’s the other continent who’s the Divide that’s uh that’s how Mount Everest got made the
Idea is Pangia and the two continents came together and slowly push themselves up and every year the that Mount Everest grows like uh like six feet or six inches something like that but it incrementally gets bigger and bigger every single year that’s a great analogy thanks brother I’m glad I got to explain
It because I know there’s so many in the comments going this guy doesn’t know what the [ __ ] he’s talking about he just made that whole thing up and like I guess that’s in the game in the world of like who’s the who’s the most talented I’m just saying with the entire
Microscope on Kelsey and Swift this year being able to kind of like watch her and observe throughout the entire year like seeing her after the game seeing the way it’s all went down like seeing the way the families are kind of engaged it just seems like they have like a true
Relationship going on I don’t who knows if it’s like the glitch the glamour everybody’s caught up in the moment who cares we’re having fun but they really do like I I don’t know I mess with she seems like a real one I’m with I think
Her being a part of the Kelsey family is only gonna have her Trend up in my own rankings because their family seems awesome and super down to earth yeah like you saw Jason and Travis kind of talking about the first time Jason met her right last week I like all that
Stuff blacked out yeah yeah this but the thing too about Taylor Swift is she’s not coming in there with all these designer things like you see so many celebrities it’s like La Ram nice she had nice stuff on but she’s rocking the clothes she’s rocking the app she has
Some custom stuff on but she’s still Chiefs Chiefs Chiefs she’s not sitting on her phone at the game they every time they pan to her she’s screaming her face off she’s at every game she’s buying into the culture of the NFL she’s not saying be more like me she’s like let me
Be more like you and that is a super relatable thing for a person that is the star of All Stars right now now subjective art right music is a subjective art so am I like the biggest music Taylor Swift fan no it’s not like what I’m into who I’m just not what I’m
Into dud I’m into that like you know what I’m into boys you know what I like but you can at least look at it and appreciate it because being like the the most talented doesn’t make you the best JP hates her man I hate when JP
Gets this y have yall seen though the will she make to Super Bowl dilemma there’s like a whole thing thing cuz Swift so she’s in Tokyo from the 7eventh to the 10th on her errors tour so she her last show is like uh starts 6 p.m. 7
P.m. whatever the 10th Tokyo time and everyone’s already been doing the math like she can make it back she leaves post show in Tokyo at 11:00 p.m. which is 6:00 a.m. like us time Vegas time gets back with I want to say like 13 hours pre kickoff so she has like a full
Night sleep can make it for the 330 kick or whatever so I think if she shows up after being in Tokyo for 4 days you got to just agree that she is a real one dude and she’s got all the tools to make it happen she’s got she’s got all the
Resources to make sure she makes every airport what this is going to be yeah I think the only way this hurts her the only way it hurts her is if she doesn’t make it yeah if she doesn’t make it to the Super Bowl then we got to sit on
This podcast a week later being like the NL on the she’s sitting on the runway for whatever reason like if the effort’s there like that’s yeah she got to sit on the tarmac though I need her on that and there better be a [ __ ] weather advisory in Tokyo that’s a hurricane
Type situation where she just can’t get out and if you want to double up your viewership there then you just put a camera like this is Taylor Swift she’s sitting on the tarm you just have that going the Taylor watch going right next to the game you need another plane just
Like when OJ Simpson was running from the police like have a camera on the plane the whole time keeping track of or made she’s made it to the stadium she’s now halfway through the Atlantic right now we are did he go through you go through the Pacific right to get back
Yeah you go through the Pacific maybe stop off in Hawai I don’t know dude I’m not great at with geography hats off to the Chiefs hats off to the Chiefs I was going to go Twisted question but we need to talk to lions and 49ers biggest fumbled bag of all time by Dan
Campbell I mean thus far yeah I mean you get to the NFC champion I could not I mean you can speak to it a little bit being up and then not to like open a wound but I’m saying like as a player I feel like you’re sitting there at
Halftime you know you got two more quarters like hey you got to step on the throw you got to keep the you got to keep the pedal of the medal boys but you’re sitting there like like you know yo we’re [ __ ] about to be going to the Super Bowl like we’re [ __ ] doing
It mhm you’re kind of like you know people whoever’s at home the families they’re starting to try to book whatever they can right right then all of a sudden that second half happens go for it on Fourth and two who Josh Reynolds is it Josh Reynolds Josh Reynolds yeah
Uh Josh drops the ball on Fourth and two which is like man why not just take the three points yeah you take the three analytics bites you in the ass man and then it the Mar the they go down and score turnover score and then they’re
Literally back in at tie ball game going into the fourth quarter the amount of juice at the 49ers play with in the second half was uncanny it was incredible to see the way they were flying around there was like bullets missiles flying to the pile when dudes
Were hung up a little bit like there were multiple times like dudes are getting their heads [ __ ] taken off War out there it’s him a stinger who uh who’s uh greenw Dre green law he gets that Stinger that was now this is in the first half gets the Stinger understands
Circumstances I got to get my ass back out there we’ve all had Stingers maybe one of the worst pains you can deal with for a moment dude it is you feel like your whole body’s shutting down then like five minutes you’re like okay I guess I’m all right but anytime I move
My head a little bit this way it goes down again like a little zap your arm and he they they were flying around like Mad Dogs insanee and then that play yeah Brandon auk which catch no catch it doesn’t really matter right there’s a flag that’s going to be pass interfering so
They’re going to get the ball half the distance to the goal in that situ ation but that is truly that’s the spark that that play right there is what sent the Lions down [ __ ] Hill man and like he didn’t have the best stat line but again
Like Brock makes some of these plays man what’s dangerous is Mahomes was like what 30 for 39 I mean he’s just got the [ __ ] look in his eye that’s terrifying I I just don’t do what oh Kelsey’s more than back like like he had 11 targets and 11 receptions and they
Played back three or four of his catches that he had insane that ball into the end zone incredible the one to get the first down I believe it was on fourth or was it third down the way he reached up and went and got it I for the life of me
Cannot understand why he was finding some windows though in that zone coverage looking at the Ravens defense how are you not what did you guys call it star double the star Stars yeah like Travis K dude all year long the Kansas City receivers have been liabilities tadarius tarius whatever the hell his
Name is Kon whatever his [ __ ] name is is on Instagram live talking [ __ ] about a team that’s going to go to the Super Bowl this year they like and this is no disrespect but they have been liabilities drop balls after drop balls the only guy that is consistent is
Travis Kelce how are you not is also no he’s but he’s come on in what the last four or five weeks he was pretty good throughout the year remember uh Big C that was one of the names that you thought was fake yeah so like he he’s
Shown up throughout the year but yeah they’ve had they’ve had drops and big moments that is true they look like the team that’s just like you know I mean four out of the last six years they’ve been to the Super Bowl and you can’t tell me that uh CMC wasn’t concussed
After that hit yeah his head bounced off just his head bounced off the turf but he’s such a [ __ ] dog he’s a dog and he just walks up he says give me one I text him last night I was like hey hope your head’s good congratulations and he
Said he just text back I’m fine hell yeah hell yeah hell yeah okay but yeah Kelsey D especially like he didn’t have a thousand yard year and was kind of like you know uh up and down at times or an injury late year but dude I mean he
Acquired he always acquires his Infinity Stones in the playoffs it feels like that’s all the the Chiefs do yeah set the record for yeah set the records I think he blew the record out right he had like five more catches than the record and he still got another game
If he doesn’t retire after this year I think could be a possibility you think he retires I think he retires might as well if you win and if you win Taylor Swift if you winet bro and he’s made so every [ __ ] commercial bro he’s in every commercial every commercial dude
Every single one and he’s not bad in him he get everything he’s commercial the sidekick commercial it’s solid he does a good job he being anim being mad he can act bro but JJ wall was saying hey be careful because overexposure JJ W was talking about when he became big he gets
All these massive deals films five 10 commercials in the off season next season comes around and every other commercial is him and people it’s like the death of overexposure like if you get too exposed then people start to get annoyed I feel like trap’s so
Cool JJ he’s so awesome JJ didn’t on our podcast like this is even like usually what happens is is like the Taylor Swift thing happens a you go into stardom we won’t say Taylor Swift then the next year after everyone’s kind of learned who you are you get over saturated like
You’re saying now it’s like people are finding the NFL for the first time and want to know more and more about Travis so all these commercials are now like it’s even better it’s working in his favor as opposed to being oversaturated cuz people were like oh look at his
Personality oh that’s adorable oh foot long T their documentary on Amazon Prime what yeah the kelse that came out like early in the year last year oh did it really oh that was last year yeah my it covered yeah it covered last year man yeah and it’s crazy that the great like
Someone who are we probably will eventually be talking about uh is who’s the goat Tom or Patrick Mahomes Patrick Mahomes is overshadowed by Travis Kelce right now that’s like an insane all these crazy story lines this year dude now there is some Rumblings out there I
Would love your guys is taking the back uh Patrick Mahomes he wins the Super Bowl Andy Reed goat oh people are trying to call for it you had a great analogy last night the chat did you enter the chat you walk into the room which is
Fair but I think no matter what Tom Brady oh yeah I agree with that in the in the head-to head I think even when because I do think I do think Mahomes can beat what is how many time have seven yeah I think Mahomes can beat that
Yeah there was a conversation I think part of my take had this conversation Hank was a part of and he obviously didn’t handle it very well but uh the let say he gets seven yeah if he gets seven look at the first six years of Tom Brady’s career versus the first six
Years of Patrick Mahomes now here here’s the thing he hold on hold on Patrick Mahomes has one more win and Tom Brady obviously has one more loss Tom Brady’s qbr is like 88.9 Patrick’s in 100s there touchdown to interception ratio completely different Pat crushes him in that situation we’re talking about the
First six years of play and they both have three Super Bowls if he wins the Super Bowl if they if if right now just on how you’re looking at the pass you’re edging to uh Patrick Mahomes over Tom Brady yeah but he’s got to keep the consistency for another 14
Years that’s what I’m saying like if you look at Brady he does like as far as like in the amount of time Mahomes is the most gifted quarterback the best quarterback we’ve seen in like the short period in this generation but Tom won Super Bowls in like three different eras
He played 24 [ __ ] years that’s such a great that’s such a great tweet what is that right there it’s most postseason QB wins in NFL history the number one leader Tom Brady with 35 the next closest is Joe Montana was 16 yeah Patrick Mahomes is going to have to play
For a few more years to even get in this conversation I dude but still he’s still coming away with the hardware at the very end I think I think Pat has the capability to catch Tom in rings way quicker then it took Tom right because
Tom 24 years and when you look at when they played head-to head he was Tom was what 2 and 0 45 years old I think he’s not even 45 yet 2 and0 put two and0 on his head yeah but you want to talk about unfort situations like they’re not putting two
And0 if D Ford’s on side in that game no qu yeah no question it’s a good argument you should be stripped yeah I don’t know dud yeah that make very good points boys they should be if Pat wins it there’s no goat conversation he’s just ENT he’s
Entered the chat yeah yeah because he I mean it is super impressive the team that we talked about all your along with the that in the with the Kansas Kansas City Chiefs um the way that they’re playing right now in the playoffs is like I it’s impressive yeah it’s
Impressive uh who you oh I don’t want to talk about who we got because we have stuffs in P everybody knows who I got it’s no it’s no super if there’s one team that’s right we got the hats in the shop go support your favorite team for
The Super Bowl here’s the Chiefs one I trust me I I here Taylor you can hold the Chiefs one or Mitch can in the back if you if there is one team that’s going to beat the Chiefs it’s the 49ers but they’ve got to play four quarters four
Quarters man cuz they haven’t done that in the playoffs they haven’t done it and they can get thrown on they can get ran on get ran on and Pacho runs like a mad man out there I just I posted it this morning dude George KD I will be back
Here you will not get the best of me that to me this is a Redemption a Redemption story for George KD and they’re playing the Chiefs who they lost to yeah few years ago when they were up big they kind of had them too yeah they did have them
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Tuning in maybe you guys are you heard about this podcast and you jumped on this is your first time listening to an episode 261 Mitch carsley has been in the [ __ ] gutters lately he’s been absolute trash and one of the few jobs he has when it comes to the show being
Filmed right now while we’re filming it your job is to come with us with a twisted question of the week presented by Twisted T and how many times have you done well two I do have a question have you talked to your family about this like all the
The the comos we’ve given them directly like have you done a recap with your family based on your trivia or based on your Twisted questions the last few weeks yeah they haven’t what like I said my dad I called my dad the other day and he’s like did he he answered called your
Dad huh well he actually called me so um but he was like you’re like you’re good though right like they’re not actually G to do anything with like you’re not going to lose your job I’m like no I’m good I’m fine oh there’s your first mistake I was like I might lose the
Phrase JP boys love you don’t ever trust us so actually I might be my job might be we do love you call your dad we do love you my mom sent me an email of like 260 questions that she just copy pasted from the internet she’s texted me a [ __ ]
Ton your mom understanding the work that goes into something like this and basically doing it for you no and I you can figure that out those questions that she sent me I have seen before and there’s a reason I haven’t asked any of them because I felt like they were not
Good but I appreciate the help Mom okay but so you’re not using one of your moms I I am not using one of my moms I am actually using one from my college roommate okay once again not a mitch carsley product it’s okay he he’s he’s
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Would love to have just a Decked Out 450 Suzuki Twisted Tea Edition let us get that that’s amazing you know your boy grew up with the Der I was into that broke your foot broke my foot broke my hand broke my wrist broke b my wrist one
Time broke a collar bone I had 27 broken bones Co I’m big tough guy doesn’t matter Mitch was put on the assignment to do what Mitch um I I would know if I was put on the motorcycle you were putting you were put in position we said
Hey Mitch you handle this you have the contacts at Motocross you have the contact talk to them and get this thing done hey it’s going to be here in August hey it’ll be here by December hey it might be here before Christmas get excited to there need you to sign this
Waiver waiver signed it is now January 29th and while you’re watching this it’s the 30th and I promise you tomorrow a [ __ ] dirt bike will not be here so it’s January 30th and we still don’t have that that being said Mitch what’s your Twisted question of the week all
Right Twisted question of this week this one comes from my college roommate Mike Dietrich would you rather suck a dick on live television or have your leg amputated from the hip down that’s a good question that’s a good question wa well who gave you the who gave it to
You uh my college roommate Mike Diedrich hey shout Mike dedich DED yeah shout out Mike dedri dude great question thank you Mike if you’re looking Mitch’s job if you’re looking for a job Mike and you know how to produce uh hit us up dude I
Don’t know if you guys were in the same thing at school at Saskatoon or wherever it was um Saskatoon you suck a dick on live television cable live television stream this is National Millions the most viewed thing the entire decade start to finish start to finish or get
Your leg amputated from the hip from the hip down I know my answer you know your answer gag me dude really yeah take my leg really yes why because now I’m in a position to write a book be a hero get one of those cool Little Tink Tink legs
Put on my and then now I’m in the Special Olympics ripping winning the 400 meter whipping the 100 meter just absolutely you think you’re just going to show up and beat these dudes yeah what’s what is it oh the Paralympics my fault I might be in both dude I might be
The first person to be a dual Olympic guy like that you you don’t think I’ll be able to write a book and capitalize on sucking dick you could but you’d be like the rest of them yeah but everybody’s like yo Will had to do what he had to do to save his
Leg Yeah I you know what I mean like some people would they just take7 hours it’s like you just the book’s called 15 minutes yeah yeah how I got myself in this position and how I choked myself out to get out yeah bro like they want make a movie
About it yeah I mean at the end of the day it’s what you’re die you spend five minutes saving your own life basically yeah oh bro we all know dud Su probably honestly probably a couple yeah I mean you know come on we don’t we don’t got to be tough every guy
Knows that we we can do people are really turned off to what you’re saying right now go ahead and explain just in case people are a little worried dudes know that like everybody’s like yo you think you could have do a better [ __ ] than your other and it’s like well yeah
Because we know exactly what we want exactly exactly what you want because you don’t have to go that deep yeah just hit the tip get after that thing pretty hard and fast that uh that uh Gluck Gluck 9,000 just letting you know might change my answer now so what I’m saying
They’ll be getting that year 10 come on I don’t know what that means what does that mean they’ll get the year 10 treatment oh yeah yeah that’s what we’ll coin it after the job is done they’ll almost finish but then they won’t they glug glug 9,000 no no
Bro you don’t think I’m getting that thing to completion I’m just trying but you then give them your nine no but I’m saying the how how everybody how everybody talks about the gluglu 9000 it would now be coined the year 10 oh I got you I see what you’re saying yeah sorry
No disrespect no disrespect no disrespect I don’t want to yeah oh now I see what you were saying almost St can’t finish I see what you’re saying you [ __ ] that’s just my bad my bad good question to your friend that was great I might change my answer what are
You guys doing head I’m getting my leg amputated dude because just think just think the technology and Prosthetics nowadays you damn near have a another leg no I’m like there’s not like a robotic leg that you’re for also when you lose a leg especially something that’s takes up probably 20 to 25% of
Your body your life expectancy drops significantly I love that data point right there that’s a great point for that argument to to live to live to live a fruitful life yeah suck to live dude 2024 you said it’s like 15 minutes or it’s you struggling to walk around for
The rest of your life not struggling you might not be struggling and it’s up to your hips so an Asic is gone oh yeah but it’s also like you you got to think about sh yeah well yeah but also I like little you to have some cleaner to wipe
Some of the the [ __ ] off of the but no I’m saying like if you’re if you do it on live television that is that is going all over the social media that is going all over everything like you’re your kids will see that you’re going to be
Seeing like oh you were the guy that sucked a dude off on live televis MIT it’ll be so much like yeah that’ll happen momentarily but that Twisted question right there will be the most iconic Twisted question of all time cuz it won’t even to be about you anymore
It’ll be everybody else saying this guy had did what he had to do and then everybody just arguing about it making it about their own selves MH you know what I mean but I’ll just be sitting back like hey I I [ __ ] I did it I did
What I had to do save your leg the life expectancy thing does sway me a little bit but I got this knee pain right here I’m thinking if you take the leg if you take the leg no more knee pain coming back with no leg your full time I’ll let
You guys know he’s been around a little bit lately really he’s been around NE been hurting a little bit he’s been popping up here there we won’t get into it so oh God Jerry answorth Jerry [Laughter] answorth bro so yeah hate my leg good question good question should we get into I mean
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Shout out no free shout out let’s start off with Mitch pull out my list here uh mine was an experience I had last night after the 49ers Lions game but it is when and this is a lost art because cable television is less and less and streaming is King now but it’s
When you tune into a movie that just started on cable that’s a good one and it was the day after tomorrow if you remember that with Jake Gyllenhaal no it’s um what’s his name the guy who’s in Parent Trap who’s the dad and Jake dillen Hall but it’s like this huge like
Geostorm type scenario comes but not about the movie but it’s just when you tune in it’s like the first five minutes of a movie you’re like okay I can trap in then I also forgot how awful commercials are on cable TV it’s like every 12 minutes just Dennis Quaid yes
But that is my shout out every shout out what’s the that’s a great movie what’s the movie I was gonna say Tom Cruz where he wakes up every day after he gets killed this should impossible oh I know you’re talking about with that uh with that actress too yes movie from quiet
Place a BL oh yeah I think um we can just Google it right yeah but it’s more fun yeah it is more fun to play this game it’s like uh it’s a newer one too like it like five 10 years no no that’s like alien yeah he might as well what is it
JP Edge of Tomorrow I wouldn’t have got that I wouldn’t have got that but that’s a great movie feel like people still sleep on Tom Cruz you think so I think they do because of Scientology stuff people still sleep on him though he’s so he’s such an elite actor he’s so good
Scientology thing makes people talk about him even more I know but I feel like because they talk about the Scientology thing it takes away from the how good of an actor he is to some people like people don’t want to give him as much flowers because they think
There’s a cookiness that comes along with Tom Cruz there’s got to be a cookiness you’re got to be a little mental you got be a little little off The Rocker acting would be so much fun to be able to do one of those roles like a cool role you know not like a
Brokeback Mountain Roll But like a cool like you know Mission imposs type thing yeah you know 300 yeah be sick Mitch what what’s your shout out my shout out and Shout Out goes to the flyovers in football pregame those like especially when you’re at the game like ese uh when
I think when we were at Notre Dame or whatever it was just like that just is automatic Goosebumps no matter what and it it doesn’t even have to be a sick plane it’s just a plane flying over a stadium there’s like there’s nothing more America yeah it could be like a
Little small 172 ripping by but you know what the intent is there yeah and like the stealth bomber going over the Rose Bowl like like that was insane they cut the FL short in the Chiefs game yesterday like the best part rise going over the stadium commercial like what [ __ ]
Terrorist it’s the world we live in now Jack you got JP oh mine goes to good Icebreaker games when you’re with all new people we we were in the situation last night it was a great game it was everybody was in a circle two people are lined up face face to face
And on the count of three they both say the first word that comes to their mind so say we’ll say one two three I say Taco you say football I have to turn to my person now I’m with Mitch we can’t say those two words we have to think of
A word what word comes to our head when we hear football in Taco 3 two one yeah tailgate so that’s exactly what happened last night me and sit and hit it but it was just like a great we were in a room of people we didn’t know and the ice
Breer just brought every everyone together and it’s a solid game yeah it’s a good one never heard of that that’s a that sounds awesome yeah yeah we were yeah I know who I am that’s a great game but I had a similar situation like that at the Chandler’s house for uh New Year
They had a bunch of people over we didn’t know anybody we knew a couple of people but we ended up playing werewolf for legit two hours and I was like the guy obviously do a because it was like me and ton who knew the game really well
And that really opened it up for everybody they got that kind of nervous you can only do so many hey where your froms how many kids you got what you do for a job conversations before you’re like let me just move on go sit in the
Bathroom for 10 minutes on my phone yeah let me go take a [ __ ] yeah yeah uh my shout out no free shout out is going to be throw throwing on the dad hat ahead my shout out no free shout out is when the new dads out there rep our hats
Or rep our merch and they post about it when they have a kid on social media tagging us and everything else that’s it’s not me trying to farm people continueing to do it but it does fire me up that people are like hey he just became a new dad and then they’re like
Repping a hat that either their wife got them or whatever they’re sitting there holding their newborn that juices the boy up so that’s my shout out no free shout out and go buy U dad merch there’s a bunch of new dads at the gym I go to
And I I guess it’s Garrett he’s just like spreading the good word and so many guys have Dad hats and it fires me up it’s like damn like dude so like women anybody that are see me like wear this girl dad hat around that just compliment
Like hey I love that hat like where’d you get it from like all the BARC BARC store barcel store yeah you know who’s a girl Dad shiron Moore head coach of the University of Michigan oh yeah got a couple headed his way right now no [ __ ]
Oh yeah oh yeah we got to start getting all the the dads that come on the I know we’ve talked about it but the dads who come on the bus we we get them to we get them some gear right when they’re here maybe even get a little dad story out of
Them we need to just have a dad segment yes just really dive in like a therapy dad session we’ll we’ll brainstorm yeah yeah if you want to vent about your child if you want to give a shout out to your child doesn’t always have to be
Positive it’s whatever we want it to be cuz you know if you’re expressing something that bothers you there’s a bunch of other dads out there feeling the same way and when they don’t feel alone you don’t feel alone and that’s how you build community and fatherhood
Is the highest of highs and lowest of lows we all got to be together speaking of community my school needs to figure out the wave again they’ve really dropped the ball they went really strong after my couple of weeks of doing the wave and putting on Instagram they’ve
They’ve dropped the ball on waving back it went really good for a while but now I got dudes in trucks not waving back and I just feel like if you’re going to have a pickup truck if you’re going to own a Chevy Silverado you’ve got to know and be
Aware when the wave is coming and give it back it has to be reciprocated there’s a different standard when you’re driving a pickup truck so let me just say that you’re trying to make the wave a thing I’m just not trying to make it a thing I’m trying to bring it back I’m
Trying to bring back community and that goes into my Shad out no free shout out similar to the boat wave my shout out no free shout out is America I feel like there’s a cut yes I’ve been watching that video literally I caught myself on YouTube t hit me up the other
Day C likes to dive into the news and and all the scariest respect because someone’s got to because I’m not gonna apparently there’s a whole bunch of people going out of Texas and there’s like a civil war on the horizon we’re talking about ww3 and all that somewhere
Along the lines of our childhood we decided that it’s not cool to love America it’s like no longer a cool thing to do and I found myself on YouTube watching highlight videos the good video different sort of military videos of why people are fighting for the freedoms
That we have now this is not a proud boy situation it is just me saying we need to regardless of what country you are born in there needs to be a sense of Pride and patriotism whether you’re from Canada Mexico Spain America of I was born here and we might have our flaws
But godamn it I love where I’m from and these are the reasons why I love it you don’t get in a relationship you know Charles got problems I know T’s got a couple things she’s got to work on I still love her to death I’m still on a
Happy marriage that typee of thing so I’m just saying shout out America dude shout out America yeah I think there’s a lot of good fandom for America yeah one way yeah is there really like talks to Civil War and [ __ ] like that allegedly you know me T hit me up with like hey
What do we do in a crisis like what if we get invaded I’m like oh we’re the extras of the movie that get ended like we’re the people running as something blows us up like oh I think that might have been Taylor and Taylor got that algorithm going on right now yeah
Election year coming start getting that algorithm cuz I saw the Tweet talking about the Civil War World War III and I’m just thinking like [Laughter] what said that I legit I sent her video after video she’s on the plane she went to Canada this weekend and I just sent
Her a bunch of videos of Just why we don’t have free healthcare and why like you’re gonna find out why you’re gonna find out if you [ __ ] with America and she thinks it’s so lame because like obviously she’s from Canada she’s like you guys just think you’re so tough it’s
Like [ __ ] try us then because we’ll [ __ ] end it dude and so shout out to America man don’t actually try us because I would hate that but if you do we start talking about the St finer episode kick it off to Ste this is a long podcast I appreciate shout out
Everybody who’s stuck with this through every minute this episode you are going to love from suer arguably one of the greatest Hustlers of Our Generation you could also argue maybe con artist of Our Generation as well he dabbles in both you can make your own decision this is
An incredible story Stu we were blessed to have him on the bus he told everything um I do feel like he covered everything from start to finish there’s definitely a lot of gaps he can probably fill in that we had questions on at the end like did he kill somebody yeah but
At at the end of the day this is 2 hours and 45 minutes of Stu firer sharing his story and being an incredible Storyteller thank you for tuning in continue to watch big hugs tiny kisses don’t forget to uh subscribe leave comments tell your friends and also don’t forget about that Rumble profile
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To have you dude glad to have you this is it’s an honor it’s a pleasure this is a very special treat because you are a very unique individual coming into the barel world getting to know you from the outside looking in you have a couple bumps where you know the stuff with the
With women and stuff like that to where you’re getting to know student you’re like y who is this [ __ ] whack job a little bit in the very beginning then you get the nose stew and you see how uh uh how much you always show your appreciation and gratitude which is very
Real and authentic it’s like you learn that in person the way you just Embrace throw compliments do all the things to where you’re just like oh Stu’s like a [ __ ] awesome awesome dude he’s just got a little he’s got a couple screws loose every now and then but this dude
Correct me if I’m wrong but Two for the Money the movie which we’ll get into uh Loosely based around your come up in the sports gambling World it wasn’t even Loosely I mean the the movie does not exist without me you know I the star of
The movie I mean if you watch that movie it’s all about me it’s a disgruntled employee standpoint on him working for me that’s the movie so without me there is no movie which character are you uh alucino okay so you’re alucino who Who start you want to start from the very
Beginning of my life you want to go right into you want jum because I have not seen the movie I’m going to watch it as soon as the show’s I’m gonna watch it tonight okay but I’d like to go I’d like to go let’s start early grew up in Long
Island uh no so I grew up in uh Brooklyn um 2662 West 2 Street uh in a six-story apartment building that uh Fred Trump owned Donald Trump’s father and my father oddly enough was Fred was friends with Fred Trump my father certain times had trouble paying the rent MH and Fred
Would let him slide so my father had a relationship with Fred Trump when I was a little boy and quite interesting and to live in a six-story apartment building in Brooklyn was quite interesting it was only me and my brother and um predominantly Jewish all Jewish so my friends were Jewish well
The school I went to was ps216 in Brooklyn All Jewish uh I was born in Mam’s hospital and um it was a very interesting tightnit family group you know on the sixth floor you knew everybody trick-or-treating you trick-or-treated the sixth floor then the fifth floor then the fourth floor then the third
Floor you stayed in your apartment building outside of the apartment building would be where all the parents hung out just on lounge chairs during the summer and everybody just played on the grass played Tacko football played Wiffle ball played kickball so that was my um upbringing in
Brooklyn uh we were there until March of fourth grade and then uh we left there and moved to Long Island Farmingdale Long Island uh really my house was in North mipa U we moved into the vicroy homes it was a uh 425 home area where there was one way in
And one way out and um um I have a lot of scars um on me from Brooklyn my father loved me loved my brother loved my mother no issue about that but was a rager holic very physical physical with me and my brother physical with my mother and um I think that really
That made me extremely insecure and not trusting um inherently anyone uh because I was let’s see 10 years old 9 years old 8 years old and I remember my mother screaming in the bedroom Stewie call the cops your father’s hitting me meanwhile I’m [ __ ] 9 years old mhm
You know what are you supposed to do do and in those days so now what do we talking I was born in’ 61 so this was probably right around when the Mets one The World 69 68 right around there um and obviously as a young child you know
You’re taught to say nothing you know you’re taught you know I was taught at least if things are rough things are bad you don’t say anything you don’t what happens in the house stays in the house but as I went to therapy uh when I was
Much older you know they taught me that that you know is very abusive and very inappropriate and it wasn’t appropriate for your father to be physical with you and your brother and for that matter physical with your mother and keeping all that stuff in correct like you couldn’t really like you couldn’t you
Know then it was there was no issue to to tell the teacher or to tell anyone for that matter so um we moved to North Masa and the first day there was a total [ __ ] horror show like to this moment I remember it and I feel it like it
Happened five seconds ago especially when I talk about it so father goes to work uh it’s the first time we own a house we’re on like an 80 by 100 piece of property and a nice house very nice um we go to What’s called the dairy Bond
Me my brother my mother it was a freestanding building and they used to sell milk in these glass bottles and iced tea in the glass bottles and also it was almost like a a very small 711 you drove in it was a drive-thru you got your stuff Donuts bread milk uh ice tea
Butter the essentials we go back to the house and in the driveway is written the word [ __ ] in Crab Apples and there’s like 10 kids opposite my house hiding in the bushes and first of all I have no idea what that word means M my mother sure as
[ __ ] does because she immediately starts crying so me and my brother are now like what’s going on and then she’s like hustling us up to the front door so that we can get in the house so we don’t see what it is she puts the glass milk down and the
Glass iced tea down and in our gutter right in front of the screen door that you have to open to get into the regular door um there’s an umbrella hanging there she opens the screen door and crab apples and Rocks come down and smash the ice
And and the milk shatter the bottles so now me and my brother are crying cuz you know is a whole to do she runs in the house calls my father my father flies home from uh New York City he had a place on 37th between 7th and 8th at the
Time he worked for a place called leama they made letters and signs and they had a couple of major accounts they had Masson Square G in HBO and they had uh Chase bank and they had a couple other other banks that they made every sign
For so every sign at HBO every sign at M Square Garden this company did and I would go into to work with my father and help him and so on and so forth when I was young took the train in hold Tod do my father comes flying home and he’s
Steaming right now and as a kid me and my brother knew that the signals that my father was going to either hit us or hit my mother or just trash the [ __ ] house was that he would bite down on his lip and you know that was a sign so me
And my and the minute he bit on his lip like me and my brother we’d run into our room in Brooklyn we had the same room two beds in this new house in North mpo we had separate rooms we’d hide literally in the closets under the bed
CU we knew we were going to get a [ __ ] beating so he comes home and he’s like screaming at my mother as if she did something what happened tell me what happened what happened she tells him and then he drags me and my brother like like a cartoon movie by the back like
Like we were Cubs and he was like a bear holding us we went to every single door across the street down our block which was Abbott Street and then we were we were surrounded by East Drive and West Drive all these things and he just started screaming at the parents saying
Who did this and of course now the parents are not confrontational at all they’re very you know like apologetic and so that was March of fourth grade so obviously now we’re hated in the [ __ ] neighborhood me and my brother a because we’re Jews there was no Jews in the [ __ ] neighborhood I’m talking
Zero uh almost like the movies like you know Christ Killers you know [ __ ] you know dirty Jews so on and so forth my father explained to us what that word means and um all the kids got punished so now we got to walk to the [ __ ] bus stop and
We were like shunned me and my brother for good fourth grade fifth grade into the summer of sixth grade where we hung out with just a very small contingent of Jews and other kids that didn’t live in Viceroy um that heard what happened but felt bad for us so we were like short
Little chubby kids and uh nonathletic at the time so um I figured out people pleasing and being nice to people and overly nice would at least get my foot in the door so that people wouldn’t piss on me and call me a [ __ ] and call me a Jew and just
You know whatever and in Vice Roy in North masipa so we’re talking 1970 there was clicks there was the little Mafia L&M boys where their fathers were in the mafia Paul Castellano who was um depicted as Don Carone in the movie The Godfather lived in Massa he lived on the water in MPA
So every bar there it was like little Social Clubs Italian Social Clubs and it was the little Mafia then you had the freaks then you had the kids that were long hair smoking pot hanging out then you had the jocks and then you had um the Nerds and
The Geeks which were the smart kids they were called at the time a word we do not use anymore like [ __ ] we don’t use that word had nothing to do with sexual preference at all nothing it had to do with they were smart they were Geeks
They were not like us they weren’t they weren’t little l&m’s they weren’t uh jocks you know and they weren’t freaks they were you know Smarties so there was clicks very clicky clicks and um everybody was white there was not really prominently any blacks or any Spanish or any other authenticities then
So finally in seventh grade um I was watching something on TV where had these bodybuilders and I used to get the bodybuilding magazines and I made my father buy me these sand weights they used to be plastic weights and they were filled with sand so he got me a bench and he
Got me these sand weights and I just went to work you know I I went to work and in th grade from sixth grade to seventh grade I grew I went from like 410 to 55 I’m the exact same size right now that I was in seventh grade so I
Started working out with the weights and I wanted to be cool so I went to uh the flea market and you also had the leather jacket group and those were the coolest group I thought because they looked [ __ ] cool in the the leather jackets and they were
Tough guys it’s like a John Travolta from Greece kind of literally literally so I got a leather jacket went into school that Monday and got my [ __ ] teeth kicked in I got put head first into the [ __ ] lockers kicked in the balls beat the [ __ ] out of they’re like
Listen you [ __ ] [ __ ] you Jew you ain’t wearing a [ __ ] leather you ain’t wearing this black leather jacket ever I see this wearing again and you’re a [ __ ] dead man so of course the next day I [ __ ] never woree the leather jacket again I went back to the flea
Market and I exchanged it for a bomber jacket which was still very cool but um getting my ass kicked by the um so when we went to school it was still seventh e8th ninth grade ninth grade was still in the junior high school wasn’t in the
High school now it’s you know now it is it’s 9th 10th 11th 12th then it wasn’t it was 7th 8th 9th um getting my ass kicked in you know in my mind you had a lot of time to think think about it and I when when the teachers came and when
The uh Dean came and when the principal came and when the person who runs detention came I didn’t rant no one out you know they were like who did this to you show me who did you know like it was show me who did this you know I want to
Know who did this and I just shut my [ __ ] mouth because I knew enough from watching movies that my father watched that you know like you just don’t rat out on people it was never told to me not to but you know I knew how bad I got my ass kicked in
And I figured God forbid if I ratted these people out what would happen so shut my mouth wore my bomber jacket and then um probably middle of seventh grade uh I started boxing and in this um the area it was called Allen Park they had a little boxing ring and some guy
Would come down and teach you how to box and I was super good I was great I would super fast I was able to get hit in the face not get hurt and I was able to punish people and I my father loved boxing my father I I didn’t watch
College football until I was probably 17 years old there was no college football in the house there was NFL football and it was a religion on Sunday we did we on Saturday we did the leaves we cleaned up the outside of the house we we cleaned
Up the inside of the house got all the chores out of the way so my father worked Monday through Friday and then on Sunday we watched football and my father was an Oakland Raider fan and a Minnesota Viking fan I became a Raider fan my brother became a viking fan and
Um football being violent at the time the really the object of football was you literally knocked out the best player on the other team by any means Clos line dirty hit after the whistle hit didn’t [ __ ] matter so in my head that’s how I thought life was that you
Know so seventh grade an eighth grader gave me a hard time and he was pushing me and he was pushing me and then one shot I knocked the [ __ ] kid out cold knocked him out [ __ ] cold I hit him one shot and he was on the [ __ ] floor
Unconscious and I just walked the [ __ ] away and then his brothers that were in ninth grade came after me and I literally must have had a hundred fights in seventh grade with the eighth graders and the ninth graders and I held my own against every [ __ ] one of them and as
It CH you how crazy it was um I only got respect then I didn’t rat them out and I could hold my own so now all of a sudden I was making a name for myself where if you were gonna [ __ ] fight with this [ __ ] guy you
Better jump him or you better [ __ ] hit them cheap so um in the neighborhood the people still didn’t weren’t coming to my house weren’t hanging out with me they were jocks they were excellent athletes they were at a very young age Stars whether it was the pal or it was flag football
Whatever it was um they would hang out like maybe four houses away from me for 10 kids with a basketball playing they wouldn’t [ __ ] talk to me and then one day one of them came over to me and was giving me a hard time for no reason and
This kid was known for wearing steel tip boots so 19 this is now 197 73 and somehow he picked a fight with me and I was crushing this kid but he kicked me first time I’ve ever seen someone kick in my life like almost like
A Bruce Lee movie he kicked me in my [ __ ] hand and like broke one of my fingers so then I just jumped them and started biting them and like poking them in the [ __ ] eye like it was fake wrestling because she used to watch that fake wrestling you know Bruno stino
Andre the Giant you know back then mhm and two of his friends jumped on me and at that moment I just went psycho I [ __ ] held my own against all three of them and after that moment everybody in the [ __ ] neighborhood loved me everybody in the [ __ ] neighborhood
Loved me so that’s really how I made my bones uh as stuer like I was a superstar in the neighbor like so much so that that fight was on let’s say a Saturday I went into school Monday my first period everybody clapped when I walked in like
Clapped you up put on the leather jacket again no never no could do it no I just I it was you know it was one of those things where I you know I just didn’t need it after that you know I wanted to do it to be accepted and then it just
Wasn’t and then I looked at these leather jacket kids like they were [ __ ] punks be honest with you they were punks you know um were you somebody looking for fights more like once you took on boxing and then realized you could who people’s ass all seventh all
Eighth grade I beat the [ __ ] out of so many people head first into lockers be senseless after school you know we meet at this time be a circle crowd it’s like a movie it was literally like I was like let’s say if I had 114 fights I was like
100 wins 14 losses you know but I want to explain then when you fought you would literally say to the person you had enough give and the person would say give and you get up wasn’t like these things in the late ’70s where I was in in in Long Island where he
Started carrying knives started carrying bats there was no rules you beat the person until they were unconscious everyone would jump on and kick them in their face and everything wasn’t like that it was like a square fight it was like once the person said it’s over it’s
Over so that’s really how it was and I started getting in trouble in school obviously in my Junior High School uh Mr Valentine he was the dean this lowlife scumbag piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] Shaka I hope he died and I hope it was violent like
Like he got hit by a car and Le bumper caught his leg and he was dragged with his face like skin because this is what this piece of [ __ ] would do you would hear this Sno please come down to the principal’s office so first time I didn’t know what that meant this guy
Legally would take a [ __ ] wooden paddle bend me over hold my hands and whack me on my ass 10 times that happened that didn’t stop until I was in 11th grade and they stopped it in that school so what are we talking 1977 that went on until do you do you remember the
First time we paddled you yeah [ __ ] yes what was that process like when he was like okay bend over were you just like I was scared [ __ ] yeah I went home to my father and my father said what did you do no [ __ ] that’s how it used to be
That’s how it used to be MH you know like Authority had all the power over children parents would just go with the teachers it was wild it was so helpless and so did you deserve some of the uh paddle beatings at the time in in the 70s never deserve a paddle beating
From an adult no that’s never like when I got in trouble in high school you sit in a detention every day you have no breaks you have no lunch you eat your lunch in there and you’d go every day and then after school you would go fine you have to write these ridiculous
Things yeah you know you Simpson on the on the chalkboard literally yeah just do work just to work don’t look around don’t talk to anybody physical abuse so I I learned really quick I asked other people that were getting Palace what do you do cuz it [ __ ] hurt my ass was
[ __ ] red as [ __ ] and uh they said have a pair of sweatpants in your locker the minute they call your name run to your locker go to the bathroom take your pants down put your s’s pants under and put your pants back on it hurts less so
That teachers were allowed to paddle at this time literally just for no like hey I’m ready to [ __ ] yes so so this is no holds bar I think about paddling I think for whatever reason I’m thinking about a nun with a ruler on the knuckles type well
They did it too but no this is a basic Public School really literally it was surreal it was teachers were able to hit you in class even up until my my school probably 8th grade they stopped eth grade physically if you were talking I was always the class clown I was always
Telling jokes I was always disruptive so the teachers would come over to me like behind and hit me in the head like smack me similarly you see the movies you know this is not you know it’s not uncommon right mhm so much so that my son my I have four Sons 34 now
32 28 24 my oldest uh was Val dictorian and went to Brown and then got his Masters in PhD at Buffalo and uh before he went to Brown he did something called Teach for America where you’d go to the worst parts of the country he was in Selma
Alabama and he taught children his class would be like 70 kids predominantly black 20 [ __ ] desks so 50 kids would sit on the [ __ ] floor and they would threaten him and they would do all crazy stuff I remember he kept calling me going I got to get out of here this is
Crazy czy that the um parents would come in and say if my kid gets out of line you can hit him with the stick you can hit them with an actual stick and that would calm them down my son’s like I’m not hitting anybody this
Crazy and he quit so I mean it was very prominent physical abuse by people in authority to children that was their way that was you know and and a lot of times that was the southern way all the way up till so he graduated in 2007 so it’s was
Going on 2008 that’s not that long ago you know hit him with a I think it was called a twitch it was like a long stick that you would snap on the person You’ have to be like smaller than the width of your thumb right I I don’t actually
Know what it was but I know that they wanted him to use it and one of the like so he was there like he he lasted like a month and then he went to 7-Eleven to get a coffee and one of the big students there that was like bigger than him uh
Threatened him and then he said dad I got to come home so he came home and then he went to Brown um so where I grew up um I felt a lot of abuse I felt an outcast um and for being a Jew for not being athletic for not being physical
And thank God I had the ability with the weights I taught myself how to work out how to fight you know and how to to protect myself come ninth grade it switched on me because it was a big problem because I didn’t grow so now all these kids that I kicked their
[ __ ] ass right they’re like double the size of me but I beat them so bad in seventh and eighth grade that at least they remembered that so they didn’t touch me but I knew at that point like I had to find another way watching football with my father was
A psycho experience because if the Raiders because I was always a Raider fan with them Oakland Raiders 72 73 74 75 [ __ ] Steelers kept beating us in fluke Fashions whether it was the Franco Harris catch whether it was just Bradshaw being better than us um whether
It was just whatever it took when the steel when the Raiders lost on a Sunday he would like trash the [ __ ] house and beat me and my brother and my mother now when I say my he wouldn’t be punching my mother he would like grab
Her in her hands and like just like for no reason he would just be unhinged as if he bet hundreds or thousands of dollars on the games but he never been in his life he was just a rage of holic he had that passion he had that energy
And I think that’s where I get it from I get it from being a performer I get it from being a people pleaser being wanting to be liked um going out of my way to be nice to people a because that’s the right thing to do because I
Was Tau I was shown my whole life how people are abusive to people people are not actually nice inherently I think it’s because of the way they were raised way their parents were raised where and it and it’s just generational they were abused their grandparents abuse them their great-grandparents abuse the
Parents and and it’s like a chain you know that’s why they say you know when you go to therapy I’ve been in therapy since 1984 1984 and I was taught this and you know they always taught me that I have to let go of my father issues for a man I was
Taught you have to you have to deal with your father issues you have to deal with what happened and you have to let it go you can’t carry around that anger because it’s your father and that was very very hard to do for me
You know to this day I love my father um I take care of my father uh my father’s in continent right now so when he comes to my house he shits in his pants it’s a [ __ ] mess in my house no one [ __ ] helps me I clean that [ __ ] diaper I
Clean it up I put a new [ __ ] diaper on him I clean the [ __ ] mess let me go back to watching football so you know part of me is like you know why you doing this you know when when you were a little kid he didn’t [ __ ] have your
Back really so when we were watching the Raiders I watch football much differently than other kids down the street because I knew if the Raiders didn’t win or if the Minnesota Vikings didn’t win which lost four [ __ ] Super Bowls there was a [ __ ] problem there was a real [ __ ] problem so I watched
The game I watched every single play I watched every Nuance I watched everything and my father taught me similar to how the Oakland rers played similar how the Pittsburgh Steelers played uh violence and violent defense and running the ball win Super Bowls so I had that it was almost like
Going to school for what I eventually became which was a sports advisor picking games like I was uh so when the Raiders won the Super Bowl in 1976 um was John mat’s only Super Bowls Kenny stable’s only Super Bowl you know FR lnof that whole team um Mo
Hubard I’ve never seen my father so happy and my goal in life always was to make my father happy because if my father’s happy then everybody’s happy there is no problems my mother was the direct opposite my mother was the Saint my mother was the nicest person ever met
In your life my mother loved everyone taught me to love everybody unconditionally taught me to help the less fortunate told me to go out of my way uh it’s one of the main reasons I never saved money I could have been a billion a billionaire I was making
Million dollars when I was [ __ ] 23 years old and I was pissing away a million one because I gave it all away I had a big entourage I had a big friend Gathering um and I hung with them I took them to Super Bowls I spent $50,000 on
Super Bowls I went to 18 Super Bowls we’d sit in [ __ ] the best seats in the House best restaurants I picked up the [ __ ] Tab and I’d have parties at my house and that would be my mother great cook so she she taught me um almost like food’s love you know what I
Mean like I remember when I just said to my mother I said Mom I don’t want to go to school today even as a third or fourth grader fifth grader sixth grader would you say no don’t worry about it stay home and uh we’ll play kasta and
We’ll play Jin Ry and we’ll play rumy and I’ll make your cheese omelette in the morning and I’ll make tuna fish for lunch then we’ll have chicken cutlets for dinner and that would be my [ __ ] day and that’s how I bonded with my mother over food so in 1980 let’s speed everything
Up a man came on Channel 4 which was NBC and and his name was Professor pix and how old are you at the time 1980 okay 19 um professor pixs he came on TV and he was an accountant that created a short form tax form and he made a million dollars doing
It and he took the money and put it into computers to pick football winners and stock analysis and he proceeded to talk for 15 minutes about how the philadelph Eagles Dick fam’s team Rosy was the quarterback they were The Darlings of the [ __ ] world I don’t know why I don’t know how
But they were they were supposed to be a very clean team did the right thing dick fam was above The Fray did it right the Oakland Raiders were dirty and scum and they had ex criminals work for them and you know they didn’t give a [ __ ] they just wanted to win at any
Cost and he proceeded to to tell me and my father never forget it 15 minutes how the Philadelphia Eagles were going to crush the Oakland Raiders Eagles were a four-point favorite at the time so it’s not like he had uh you know some wild thought [ __ ] odds makers said it and
Me and my father will watching this jerk off like [ __ ] cluess [ __ ] and expert you know explain how that’s going to happen we said there is no way that’s happening no prayer in no world and everybody in my town um the fathers of the kids uh also loved the Eagles
Everybody was Eagles Eagles raus killed them we knew the Raiders were going to kill him we were high five in me and my father I said pop because it’s really weird because growing up Jewish there was a lot of pressure that my mother want to me a
Doctor or a lawyer those are my [ __ ] choices you know I don’t know why but that’s how it was and I said to my father listen I’m not really smart enough to be a doctor and I don’t have the patience to be a lawyer I can’t study I just
Can’t do it I don’t have the patience I might have had add I don’t know what I had but I just could not study if it came to me immediately I could do it science I was great at math I was great at English studies in 12th grade I was
Probably on a sixth grade level I got on my SATs in 10th Grade I got a 550 math 390 English out of 800 each 1600 390 English is about as bad as you could be it’s almost illiterate 550 is basically average for that so that blew me going
To any college my mother wanted me to go to the best college you know my mother pumped me up so did my father they always pumped me up and my brother up they loved us but it wasn’t real you know what I mean like keep it real it’s
Not real it’s one of those parents that said you could do anything that’s I guess you could but I I didn’t and I wasn’t so said to my father listen bottom line is this I want to go into this [ __ ] business if this jerk off can be this wrong or this not being
Abusive this expert that got the time on NBC the Friday before the Super Bowl prime time that spot cost gazillion dollars I can’t even imagine and he got it for free if he could be so wrong let’s go into the business cuz my father always taught me defense running violence
Underdogs Home Advantage T from my father like 1977 you know I’m 16 years old he’s pounding into my head now now gambling’s legal now everybody you know you teach your kid this if you want to gamble you would you would teach your kids what I’m but then you know there was no kids
Gambling it was only legal in Nevada there was a 100 bookmakers on Long Island in mipa in Farmingdale in Sea all the towns they were all Mafia there was all Mafia it’s the only bookmakers at the time Mafia Mafia Mafia and they didn’t let kids bet they didn’t let
Little kids bet they didn’t let kids who are under really 21 bet you could bet but you’d have to post money up and the limits then were very very small they wouldn’t let you get in trouble because they knew you can’t pay and then if you
Found the place that allowed you to have credit you know they knew you weren’t they they knew you couldn’t pay if you got in trouble or certain players that had what’s called a sheet where you would work for the bookmaker you would get the customers and you would be
Almost called a half sheet so 50% of the losses during a week that’s your money if the people one you would run a neg you would run a negative until you got into the positive so a lot of people took shots they said [ __ ] everybody
Could bet with me and if you went bad you just can’t bet anymore until you pay so that’s what they would do so I said I’m going into this business now the problem is this when I went into the business I could not get a merchant number to accept payment
Because when I went to a bank and I said listen I’m going I have an I have an expertise picking winners on football games they looked at me like I had two heads they said okay but if you were living in Nevada that’s fine because it’s legal the but it’s not legal
Anywhere so we’re are not going to allow you to have a merchant number on an illegal business that’s not happening I said yeah yeah yeah but I’m not the book maker I’m not taking the bet they’re like but where’s the point of purchase customer doing he’s betting illegally
We’re not letting it so how I used how I got a merchant number my first merchant number was I had to say I was selling Sports a power and then I would able to charge the card second problem was nobody would allow you to advertise nobody unless you were
Specifically in the state of Nevada so then what I would have to do is I bought Sports Illustrated customer and we just randomly me and this guy that was 23 years older than me um my father let me 1500 and he put 1500 in we had two
Desks together maybe the size of this bus with a bathroom and we would just sit there on the telephone and [ __ ] call thousands of people a day hi how you doing do you bet hi how you doing do you bet and of course 99.9% didn’t bet they’re like where’d you get my number
From where’d you get my number from you get you know then you know it was like crazy you know and the good thing was that you couldn’t block someone you know what I mean like if I had your [ __ ] number I had your number you know what
I’m saying like I’ll call you three got your number it’s over right it’s literally [ __ ] over so um I mean I give you my number and you won’t he keeps he sends me NBA pics literally every really yeah you can run but you can’t hide so um then all of a
Sudden I started seeing these little one by one ads in newspapers so then um we were doing so well picking like in the early 80s I’m talking I would hit eight out of 10 every [ __ ] week so remember now all you had was a Saturday slate a Sunday
Slate no late Sunday game and the Monday game that’s it you had three days and we pounded away for those three days but my Against the Grain against the public better defense home teams home underdogs more violent teams covered and one outright also when I picked the winners
They were direct opposite of what everyone else picked the public picked the gamblers picked so not only when I won I got your [ __ ] attention because like let’s say I gave you the better team and they were laying seven they won they were betting that without me and in
The 80s up until probably I would say 1992 when orra Sports books just started everybody bet the favorites because when you bet a game you don’t want to be uncomfortable you don’t want to be like you don’t want to be so nervous before the game starts that you could get blown
Out you want to be on the comfortable side M you don’t want to be uncomfortable so my system was like [ __ ] gold was absolutely gold so I started running these little one by one ads saying I know more than you call me and the first name of my first company
Was profit line Sports p r o p h t and we had this like Pro it with like a [ __ ] wizard’s hat and a computer at the time like you know like it was like you know it was stateof the-art and we had a good artist and we put this little
Ad and my phone rang off the [ __ ] hook within three months within three months we wrote a quarter of million first year in business we wrote 1.3 million with our overhead being 60,000 plus our blood s years we were [ __ ] Off to the Races yeah we went from size
Of this bus to 3,000 square fet in 12 months I got 40 people working for me now now I’m writing $3 million 22 years old [ __ ] killing absolutely killing all of a sudden I get a lawsuit in the mail and it says that I’m being sued
Because not one of my customers but a gambler sued everybody in Nevada that had a license because at the time I went to lawyers and I said I don’t want to be I don’t want to go to jail uh um because the common theme of
What I did is no matter who how I told or who I told what I did for a living they’re like you’re a bookmaker no I’m not a bookmaker I never took a bet in my life never ever ever I didn’t want to go to jail two things I never did was sell
Coke and be a bookmaker because I could not stand being in jail like I couldn’t last a [ __ ] day you know I saw those movies you dropped the soap some guy’s going to [ __ ] up your ass I would rather kill myself I’d rather die I would not
You know not happening and those are the main things that I figured you go to jail for not doing so we had to get a license in Nevada at the time to sell pegs okay this guy loses like $400,000 gambling was never one of my customers but he gets a lawyer and sues
Every person that has a license in Nevada he killed his wife to get the insurance money no [ __ ] so now he get caught he obviously got caught yeah yeah yeah this was his defense oh okay he killed her he he got the money because then like then the insurance companies paid immediately
Scams used to work like that in the 70s and the 80s now of course not now they [ __ ] investigate they don’t give you a dollar they wait you out you know there’s no time frame in the money you know they’ll wait you out to make sure it’s not fraudulent
Then you know scams run every [ __ ] day like this whatever it is fires whatever you know you know you got paid by the insurance companies the scammers were able to beat them senseless for you know good 60s 70s 80s maybe going back to the 50s anyway so I get this [ __ ]
Lawyer lawyer says well you’re gonna have to go to Nevada I go I’m never going to Nevada well you got to testify I’m never testify find out how much money it’s going to cost to settle so 90 people paid the guy 7,000 to just settle I did nothing wrong I had
Nothing to do with anything had to pay Seven Grand but at the time I had a lucrative business [ __ ] it let’s go then I caught a major major break because um ESPN in 1984 all of a sudden allowed me to advertise so they had a um they had like a TV Guide of
Everything that was on HBO and all the major channels and I was able to buy the inside front cover for profit line Sports of of the TV Guide like the TV Guide yes cost me like $40,000 I wrote like a million six off of it then they then they said in March
Of 1984 you could run National commercials of 32 commercial I had to make story boards and Pitch it to these [ __ ] Executives it was [ __ ] amazing it was like great I bought a suit I looked like a schlub because you know I was like a giant fat iy was like
260 pounds at the time so no matter what I wore I didn’t look good so I walked in there but I could sell and I could pitch and I Was Not Afraid of Anything I was not afraid of failing I was not afraid of no your job started when the customer
Said no in 10th Grade I worked for a place that sold unsold airtime for radio stations radio stations had so much air time they needed someone to fill it so my boss taught me how to sell just randomly make [ __ ] up and sell
It and I was able to sell so I knew how to sell then I sold in 11th grade I sold uh maintenance chemicals office supplies and we’d call these people that needed like cow manure and you know older granules and you know fertilizer and I knew how to sell and
That skill set you know he taught me your job starts when the customer says no and then your job starts when the customer says never call me again it hangs up on you you call the guy right [ __ ] back on redial and you go listen you [ __ ] I don’t know who the
[ __ ] you are but you better give me [ __ ] respect because I’ll come down to your [ __ ] door and smash your [ __ ] face in you piece of [ __ ] and Guy be like whoa whoa whoa I’m sorry you know because like you know like I got him now I got his phone number I just
Threaten a [ __ ] guy unless he’s a maid guy or he’s a mafia guy’s with someone he doesn’t know who I am from New York I’m talking like you know whatever so I got the [ __ ] guy and then he would roll over I would send them like a [ __ ] 401 a daa [ __ ]
Test like some [ __ ] Testament filament [ __ ] uh fishing reel or I’d sell them or i’ give them gifts and I I was great at it I was [ __ ] great so so when I sold these people they said yes it was unbelievable so we ran 60 30 second commercial in March saying profit
Line Sports is the number one sports analyst in the world we play the game 100 times in a computer and we decide what statistics and analyst work call us now and of course I had a big Salesforce and they were really abusive so HBO cut us off immediately and they stopped
Using National Comm you could not buy a national commercial after I did that because they were like holy [ __ ] this guy just wrecked our [ __ ] business it was such a bad name because I was so abusive with the people because we sold you know we sold hard like super [ __ ]
Hard you know guy would hang up we call again guy hang up call again you know like you know what they made do not calls and they made these list because of what I used to do to people like but you know it took him 20 years to do it
But I did you know I was doing in the 80s so then all of a sudden USA today a national newspaper allowed us to [ __ ] advertise and it was the craziest thing of I’d run a basic ad you know I’d run a little ad and then there was like 20
Little ads so then I said how do I get rid of this competition I ran a half page ad and then somebody ran a quarter page ad so then I ran a full [ __ ] page at $60,000 in 1984 we have a freestanding building that we’re on the second floor 609 Route
109 in West Babylon the building is still there oddly enough when Janks came to my house for the first time that works with tank right now yeah yeah I took him for six hours and I showed him every building I owned every place I went to and he was flawed so you walk
Into this building and on the left side there was this little office tiny office smaller than this and it was these two guys and their job what they did was Supply strippers for strip clubs on Long Island and this is like 83 and strippers and stri clubs in the
80s they were like crack [ __ ] you know what I mean they were disgusting very thin no tits gross girls but they were doing it for the money he would send them up to my office and we’ just [ __ ] the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of them you know whatever we
Didn’t give a [ __ ] at the time you 20 you know you’d [ __ ] anything what you know then just do what you got to do all of a sudden one day this [ __ ] guy in a [ __ ] gazillion dollar suit with gazillion dollar jewelry he’s in the office and he goes
Hey kid come here he goes yeah Joey bang bang I just got out of jail did 17 years I killed five people he goes my two guys here say you’re a [ __ ] guy you’re a [ __ ] erer you’re a [ __ ] Jew G to call you Stewie a Jew you’re a [ __ ]
Ear he goes want to do business with you now my partner I’m 22 he’s 43 is Italian also and he hated this he says the guy’s a [ __ ] criminal guy’s a [ __ ] loser and my partner once we started making money see my father taught me when I
Made money don’t show you make money don’t don’t dress like you make money don’t do anything reverse with this guy this guy’s in his 40s already he wants to show his dick you know he’s [ __ ] everything that walks he’s going to these uh pwp meetings Parents Without
Partners he was single and he was taking down God uh [ __ ] 15 girls crazy pwp you know and um he goes but I hate you [ __ ] home he’s not showing me respect I’m like well listen listen I’m showing you respect to Joe I don’t want no [ __ ] problems here like um
Whatever so they he starts having a card game downstairs and we were writing at the time about five million bucks on a board that you wrote it a minute guy makes a sale we like we used to sell like we used to call a PE person up and go
Listen our package is 1.5 million but all I need from you now is 150,000 and you owe me 1,350,000 and I’ll work that off picking the winners and some people go okay that works think about that okay that works so I got 150 Grand sale so we were just
Killing we would kill him this guy has a card game and one of my and one of my managers starts playing on the card game and this guy Joe says I hate that [ __ ] guy Tony upstairs who’s partner I love the [ __ ] Jew but I hate the
Partner I’m gonna [ __ ] make a move I’m gonna send one of my guys up there so he sends this Luca brzi guy up to my office and Joey says to me steu I want you to [ __ ] give him a job what am I supposed to say I saides okay no problem
This [ __ ] guy couldn’t even talk he was not there to pitch he was there to to look and I was stupid enough to not take the board down so he told Joey everything so I get into work on a Saturday about 10 minutes late and my
Partner was [ __ ] beat the [ __ ] at him he had a tpay ripped off his whole face was Bloody he goes [ __ ] Joey [ __ ] s someone here to beat me up I go how do you know it was Joey he goes what are you talking about we know it was Joey
Because the day before we fired this Luca brzi guy and it was a real hole to do even getting him out of the office so then my partner now has this [ __ ] idea because I went back to my father and my father was friends with my uncle
Who worked for the FBI and he took pictures he said get out of the business what are you [ __ ] crazy it’s Mafia business get out of the [ __ ] business you got a [ __ ] issue here what are you going to do get out of the [ __ ] business do something else anything else
Just get the [ __ ] out I said I’m not getting the [ __ ] out I I make a lot of money here so my partner says he knows a friend that’s in the mafia he goes to the friend friend comes to the office friend says Tony you come with me to
Brooklyn I’m gonna drive to Brooklyn and we’re gonna meet this guy Rocco classic classic so in Brooklyn Rocco has like a [ __ ] an apartment in Bensonhurst but in the basement was like [ __ ] 20 TVs and he sits down and he tells my partner he goes Tony what this guy Joey
Is going to do is [ __ ] kill you and take your [ __ ] business that’s how it works so you’re with me now I’ll protect you so on the way home the people in the car ask Tony what his address is home address and he thought that was weird so
He gives him a fake address okay Tony comes back and says it was really [ __ ] weird I I don’t know what to do but this guy Joey they said he gonna kill gonna kill us I said well guy loves me he’s not going to kill me he goes
Well what the [ __ ] he’s gonna kill me it’s the same as killing you right I said yeah yeah we’re in this together I’m not I’m not [ __ ] bailing out him the next day same situ situation I get to work like 15 minutes late and they beat the [ __ ] out of my partner and
This time they wreck the whole office two people but the problem was one of the guys said still like a Dodo and I know where you [ __ ] live you’re at this so we’re gonna come to your [ __ ] house if you don’t give us the money because
What they were asking for was 40% of our gross money whatever we wrote we give them 40% and then we’re good so now he knows it’s them because they gave the fake address so he know two different two different gangs coming at him now right so by the way quick pin
Your buddy your partner has to stop showing up to work on time [ __ ] sound sh a burer like 10 minutes late 15 minutes late don’t beating it all so so now we got a real [ __ ] problem got a $5 million business now in those days the big customers paid us in cash
They would put a hundred 50,000 in a FedEx envelope certain weeks we had3 $400,000 in cash just on our desk which of course you know we’re blowing the money we’re going to Atlantic City I couldn’t lose the money quick enough I couldn’t buy enough Coke I couldn’t give it away to
My friends I couldn’t wait to go to sporting events paying top dollar shows everything restaurants walk in lirk le perigord le Barden matri D here’s a thousand [ __ ] I want that table we weren’t even dressed you got it Mr finer tip everybody 200 i’ SP 10,000
Lir le paragod le Berard then all the top restaurants in you know in New York spark Steakhouse every one of them Smith wsky every [ __ ] one of them they knew me because I [ __ ] you know whatever I bought my way in you know I didn’t have
The rep but I did one you know they didn’t give a flying [ __ ] they treated me better than they would have treated Paul Newman a big star it didn’t matter so my uncle says if you’re not going to get out of business you got to call
Security FM here you gotta get guard get guards so my father it was the greatest because my father is an army veteran to tours to Germany and he was a complete side gu complete he comes there with his friends and they bulletproof every one of my windows with
This plexiglass that was bulletproof he puts starter in all of our cars so that we could start the car from the top of the office cuz he says that’s how they do it they’re going to blow me [ __ ] car like you know he whatever this is nuts we
Sleep at the office we get two security Cs on guns walk around with us everywhere we go for two weeks they build a wall now where to get into my office you have to buzz there’s a guy sitting there with a shotgun in full view they buzz you in under our desks
Every one of them shotguns unlimited ammunition I never shot shotgun in my life no I did half the [ __ ] people there you know what I’m saying like if we had to shoot it there’s no way I would have had to taken a shotgun I thought about it in my head
I would take the shotgun and beat the person with it I’m not right literally there’s no way and um Sandy at the time is working for me her father is working for me her sister-in-law is working for me her brother-in-law is running the business so this is like a psycho family
Operation here this is a serious [ __ ] situation and we’re making too much money like you know I’m it’s it’s too easy money and I’m picking [ __ ] winners left and right too mind you I’m picking [ __ ] every winner every Super Bowl I catch every Monday night Underdog I catch every Sunday Underdog I’m like
[ __ ] unconscious people are can’t wait for me to give the picks out they’re [ __ ] I’m giving a pick out on Tuesday because I saw the games already I was able to click immediately they’re flying to Vegas with a 100 Grand 150,000 they’re borrowing money from shylock’s
At two to three points a week taking that money going to Vegas to bet the games because I was that good at that time so I had a major following I was number in the country in the [ __ ] country so then all of a sudden after about six
Days one of the guys sitting there at the at the door with the he goes you can’t live like this goes listen I’m G send someone to your office they’ll solve this [ __ ] problem so I said good this guy comes in with a [ __ ] cigarette [ __ ] just like a pure
[ __ ] movie me and my my partner behind our desks this guy goes I’ll solve your problem smok solve your problem 25,000 what 25,000 we’ll give it that to you right now no no no 25,000 for life every year and once a year you go to a Christmas
Party and you give the boss five grand I’m like we’re in we’re in now most people said to us most people that I went to after I did the deal they said listen they’re the same as the other two they’re going to take over your [ __ ] business you stupid [ __ ]
Jew are you crazy what are you doing it’s gonna go so bad so quick okay well like wait just I had to piss so bad go ahead go don’t tell any St don’t tell any we’re literally going to sit in silence yeah good oh God I mean never moment guys
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So I think it’s one of those deals where they we don’t jump back in yeah we’ll jum lose any moment of thought you’re right you’re right do you want this no okay all right cool go ahead Okay so now he says this is the plan because they know that Tony my
Partner is not with anybody because they smacked him around they asked him if he was with anybody he said no then he reached out to a second place which smacked him around so both places know he’s not with anybody so here’s the plan the guy goes listen this is what we’re going to
Do I’m going to bring my guy back here because the guy that we met was not the guy the one that you’re going to pay 25 for Life correct okay correct so he brings his buddy and his buddy says to me this is what we’re going to do we go downstairs right
[ __ ] now okay and here’s what the story is you’ve been with me since seventh grade you had a problem selling tickets and I solved the problem and you’re [ __ ] with me and it’s on record and it’s on order and I put it on order I said ‘ listen why can’t you go
Down without me he goes don’t worry about it I’m not going to do anything I’m just going to talk to him we know this [ __ ] we’ve done this before I’m like okay and the things I did in this late uh in 10th 11th 12th grade is I sold concert
Tickets um I got the first five rows for every show at the NASA Coliseum Madison Square Garden all of Jersey all of Connecticut all Philadelphia I um in in I think 11th grade me and Sandy bought seventh row Center uh for Genesis at Madison Square Garden for the uh then there were three
Tour Gabriel left it was the first album they came out without Peter Gabriel I don’t know if you’re familiar with Genesis Phil Collins and whatever so and that was our favorite album and as it turns out um Follow You Follow Me was our wedding song so we paid this guy $40
Each she I didn’t have the money time she paid I paid Dutch and we sit seven throw Center we meet this guy and this guy says to me um I need you to bring down people to wait online for me it’s either the night before we wait online
From like 8 at night until the show goes on sale or six o’clock in the morning you have people online and then we filter people in where you are I said okay so I sold concert tickets and I sold pot only two things I ever did in
High school and my first two years of college I went to NASA Community College right across street from Coliseum so I I was very popular and very valuable because if you wanted to see a [ __ ] show you had to go through me now none of my money I
Didn’t use any of my money for anything this guy would give me the money pay each person either a first five old sent a ticket for free or hundred bucks so I sold concert tickets and we had a lot of wars with people because there would be
People sitting online for days and we would just literally I got football players to work for me we would literally there would be like a list of like 600 people had been there for four days I would literally walk up to the line let me see the list they go yes do
Sign here I take the list a bit the [ __ ] up and then my football players would literally take these medal like barricades and squish them against the wall we would filter like 40 people in front and then we put the barricade back and we go what the [ __ ] you want to do
You want to [ __ ] let’s go you want to [ __ ] go and a couple times they beat this living [ __ ] out of people like lit like like should have gone to jail [ __ ] left him for dead but then you know they were scared so they didn’t call the
Cops so this guy says listen here’s the deal I helped you when you were having problems you [ __ ] went me you’ve been with [ __ ] me I said okay but listen I I I don’t want to go downstairs you got to come down it’ll be very mellow so I
Go down with this guy and the other guy stays upstairs and he literally the second he walked in just threatens the [ __ ] out of this guy he’s like who the [ __ ] you think you are you’re making a move on him he’s [ __ ] with me check on record
He’s on [ __ ] record he’s [ __ ] with me who the [ __ ] are you and then this guy is like oh whoa whoa I didn’t know you know and that’s how it went down I didn’t know how am I supposed to know I didn’t know I hate his [ __ ] partner
Disrespected me doesn’t say hello to me this and that and I’m literally sitting there thinking I’m getting shot I’m literally getting [ __ ] shot here because he has a gun with him he has a gun on him I know the other guy has a gun he’s already killed people he’s been
He just got out of jail and I’m sitting there like like I swear to God my heart has never beat so [ __ ] fast but he backed down backed down so then that really gave me the license now to just have a license to Ste a license to just go my it was my
Dream come true like I could do whatever the [ __ ] I want and if I got a beef this guy’s gonna [ __ ] come and [ __ ] tell you to [ __ ] yourself because it’s on record that I’m with him and his guy was like a [ __ ] like a like a big guy
Like a he own like three [ __ ] bars and queens two bars in New York and every time I met that guy I was always super scared because he was always making a move on me he’s like what can we do to make money what could we do to
Make money like he didn’t like physically make something happen but every time he’s like come on can’t you cut me in what’s the story what’s the deal and I just kept him in arms distance I never was late with the money money I always went to the the Christmas
Parties and he’d be like you know he’d introduce me to everybody like hey this is a this is uh Barry five fingers just got out of jail for killing five people he only has five fingers because he [ __ ] got his hand cut off in [ __ ]
Jail i’ be like this is a [ __ ] Jew stud Jew he’s a [ __ ] earner for us that’s how they introduced be like hi how you doing and this went on for like three years then all of a sudden the guy that was the first guy that we met that
Wasn’t involved with Mafia says he needs a job let’s come work with me and for some reason I unconditionally trusted it I did not think anything bad would happen and it did this guy became my best salesman he became one of my managers and has my back to this [ __ ]
Second so my partner did not like this guy he didn’t like him didn’t trust him so he opens his own office takes half my crew we’re still partners and goes like two towns down the road builds a state-of-the-art office and he’s doubling what I write doubling me can’t
Figure out how all of a sudden was it a bad breakup with you too SPL no no because he would never Rob from me there was no robbing about first of all I’m I’m I’m closeing out this guy can’t rob me because this guy [ __ ] you know you
Can’t you know he knows it but he just wanted to be the guy and he didn’t like the situation okay fine he goes to this place and he’s doubling my business I can’t figure out how so what he’s doing is just banging people’s credit cards he’s randomly just
[ __ ] hitting them guy would pay 250 for a week and then say no I want to stop and he’d have like 200 of these people he would just hit their cards for 250 every single day every day even if they didn’t want it they had no idea how
About this how about this only 50% of the money charged back only 50% charged back people didn’t even look at their credit card they just paid it it was like surreal eventually we lost all our Merchant numbers and I said you’re [ __ ] that’s ridiculous how have you been doing this
You know you know how to sell [ __ ] sell we make enough money selling you scumbag I said we’re [ __ ] done and he went a separate way and then I kept my people and I did not hire any of the people that were with him back just [ __ ]
Them because they were scams and they were thieves I’m like how didn’t you tip me off you know this that’s a [ __ ] felony you’re going to jail for what you just did thank God I had enough money that I paid every single charge back so even though they knew it was crazy I
Paid it back and they were embarrassed that they were so vulnerable that they could be whacked out for tens of you know hundreds of millions of dollars in theory if they you didn’t catch it Sandy was working at the time before she became a full-time bookkeeper uh at at um Bank of
America I think it was Bank of America and the FBI comes to her house F house comes in her [ __ ] door and starts grilling her about you used to work at a bank what happened here your boyfriend just you know you had two million in chargebacks what’s you know
What’ you know were you on the inside and her mother um going out with her four years at the time her mother goes listen get the [ __ ] out of my [ __ ] house you don’t listen to you don’t talk to my [ __ ] daughter go [ __ ] yourself you got something to [ __ ] say give me
A give me a [ __ ] warrant otherwise go [ __ ] yourself and threw them out and they never came back so I could have been in a lot of trouble because you know in other words he that my I was still half partners with this guy at the time when all these
Chargebacks came in I made it good and then that was it so I I escaped a very very big problem with that and then from that point forward it taught me so taught me to be squeaky clean with credit cards like squeaky clean there was no [ __ ] you know you never
Overcharged a card like in those days people would say put it on the card and we’d get the code they go St hold the code and I’m GNA send you cash at the end of the week because they got paid in cash those days it was cash everything
Was Cash there was no checks there’s no nothing else there was no PayPal there was no zel it was you know [ __ ] you got paid in cash with a bookmaker and you paid whatever you were doing in cash and uh he kept what he would do also um
When he wor when he was still with me at the time if they didn’t pay after five days and we’d have like 18,000 on the wall because we’d have the customers like their sheets on the wall they would go put it all through and at the time I was okay with
That because the deal was you’re paying cash you owe me the money if you don’t have the cash then I’m putting the credit card through because I don’t have your money and then we and then so I should have seen the writing on the wall
That when he went on his own he was just gonna randomly just go wild and that’s what he did and eventually he just went totally out of business everybody left him totally out of business so now where uh in let’s see 1988 I get married to Sandy on my
Honeymoon I go Italy for two weeks cruise for two weeks come back and I I say got to buy a building got to buy a building so I buy my first building it was a freestanding uh 4,000 ft building I pay 360,000 for the building right now
The building I I sold it in 1995 for like 660 it’s worth 2.7 million I [ __ ] want to throw up but anyway so we buy this building now we’re absolutely killing and in 1989 was the 88 bought the building 88 I got married 89 we did our
First show it was called the sports advisors we got this idea to go to MV Griffins Resorts we pitched MV Griffin’s like second in command guy he gave us a 5,000 s foot suite at M Griffin’s Resorts it was called the Griffin Suites for MV state with a [ __ ] elevator
5,000 square feet in 1989 mind you and Butler unlimited food unlimited everything they’d fly us from the airport which is in Farmingdale to Atlantic City we would hang out on a Monday night film the show Tuesday go home Tuesday night and Jim Clack was the
Host and um he was a lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers and he was great at what he did he was great you know similar to you guys played the game but could talk like a [ __ ] professional analyst you know very glib amazing told stories you know his body count was
2,000 so he always bragged about two how many women he [ __ ] which was 2,000 I said how is that possible he go it’s [ __ ] possible I got a 12 in [ __ ] it was possible I was [ __ ] Four Women a night I’m like okay great that’s great
And that was the first year we did the show and thece steer 1990 um I was partners with a couple of people the first year and 1990 I went on my own 1990 it was the first year I did 900 numbers where people would pay me to
Speak to me and speak live and my business was high-end tickets we could get a million dollars out of a customer we would just take half of his winnings and when we went on a roll they were happy because on their own they got annihilated like when people’s when
People bet the the misconception is that when you bet when you actually bet forget about picking anybody could pick when you actually bet your [ __ ] money and you get your teeth kicked in two weeks in a row then is then you get your teeth kicked in three weeks in a row
Then the fourth week you chase everything cuz you want to make up for the money and you get your [ __ ] ass kicked in the fourth week you’re like I got [ __ ] problems then you normally start borrowing money is in 80s and 90s to pay what you can’t pay and then
You’re betting you reach out for help so people at that time would pay me anything to win because because when people bet you don’t hit 50% you don’t hit 40% you hit 20% you get [ __ ] annihilated you know as Dave would tell you as big cat would
Tell you you know you lose a lot of [ __ ] money a lot of money and so all of a sudden The Craze the big crave was 900 numbers um sex phones were on 900 numbers where you would pay anywhere between $5 to $25 to listen to the girls talk on a
Recorded message or live um do on Warwick did the Psychic Friends Network and they were writing hundreds of millions of dollars off 900 numbers it would be paid like $5 per minute and then Sports started getting off the- wall with 900 numbers and I was always scared because I’m like there’s a $10
Number a $25 number and a $50 number that’s how I started I’m like how can I ever bump the people well PS the first day I ran my ad um on the TV show first day on the $25 number I wrote $330,000 first dat and then I bumped the
$25 number to the $50 number which wrot another $30,000 so I was riding like 60,000 a week on 900 numbers all my salesman are like super scared right now because like they knew at that moment I don’t need them this is much cleaner business I just put a 3
Minute 4minute analysis on a recorded message gets [ __ ] hit to the 900 number and you’re [ __ ] gold so we were writing we wrote like $8 million we wrote 4 million 6 million 8 million back to back to back and the show is just absolutely murdering it was all off the TV show and
This is you going so low yes I’m alone right now all my [ __ ] money all my money so I’m like this is nuts this is I got the World by the Bulls and then all of a sudden [ __ ] scumbag roer murder channel five Fox Five says I want to get into the NFL
Game I want to [ __ ] take the NFL NFL programming from CBS and he makes an absurd offer and takes it from CBS and he puts it on Fox 5 but here’s the problem he has no sports channels I’m in like every sports channel in the country Thursday night Friday night Saturday morning Sunday
Morning I’m in like 60 sport sports channels we have a budget of like $150,000 a week he buys all the sports channels and throws me did he not like you no he needed it for his NFL programming gotta and at the time 903 is when he started he bought them
All in 93 threw me off and then in 94 he actually had it where he owned the NFL programming um there’s nothing I could do nothing I could do because the NFL at the time gambling was like taboo you couldn’t even say that you know like
Think about it now it’s you know 94 I was like you know no way so then I started scram so then I had to rake back the 900 the 800 business and try to make it go live and the internet was just a thought we went to like 10 separate
Seminars on the internet and the internet was like the most obscure thing you would go to this [ __ ] meeting and now it’s like you live on it but then people would talk about we have these we have a way that throughout the world we have this thing that it’s gonna be there
And everybody’s going to be there so major major big players dumped so much money into the internet in 95 lost their [ __ ] dick 96 they chased it again got murdered 97 got murdered 98 so these people who were on the balls of their ass almost bankrupt became millionaires and I was
Not ready for I could not understand it I didn’t have the skill set at the time I 199 91 I advertised on score phones I advertised in 200 score phones in 200 different cities they gave scores odds lines injury reports weather reports they also jammed 900 numbers in it and I
Would have the first 30 seconds going hi folks this is Stu and right now I have the lock of the year I have a game that can’t lose I have a game you can bet your children’s eyes on call me now at 800 and that was I was able to soften
The blow of losing all my TV networks to ruper Murdoch so I still had my show but my budget went from 150,000 to 30,000 I was in very select networks and not the biggest ones um but I was on score phones I was doing good doing good enough so in 1993 the
Person that own the score phones he loses like $4 million gambling in like four months in Vegas he just went on the worst [ __ ] you know Full Tilt Bender ever he says to me steu I want to sell you the business like why would you sell me your business it’s [ __ ] great
Business I’m paying you a million to a year you’re [ __ ] he goes I I need I got in trouble need help so we come to an agreement $4 million put a million down Finance three million fine it’s a steal it’s [ __ ] like stealing money can’t say no to it I worked as a
Landscaper for um William schwindler he was the co-founder of Grumman Aerospace he was partners with Leroy Grumman they built all the fighter planes in World War II he was the engineer his claim to fame was in the movie Apollo 13 with Gary sise and Tom Hanks when they were stuck up in the
[ __ ] air there’s a scene in the movie with his two big tables and this guy comes in and throws [ __ ] on the table and says you’re the smartest people in the world the they’re going to come through the atmosphere and burn the [ __ ] up we need
To figure out how to save them and you’re the smartest people figure it out this guy saved them when they landed in real life they drove right to his [ __ ] house which is now my house and thanked him vice presidents were in my basement during World War II while he
Was building the [ __ ] fighter planes to fight the [ __ ] Germans okay so I when he when uh in we got caught swimming in his pool in sixth grade and instead of him giving us a hard time he goes next year we we’ll hire you so I
Hired he hired me and my brother and like four friends it all lasted like four months because we ran around we did nothing this we worked for this guy Bill and we were in this greenhouse on the property it was 7.8 Acres it was absolutely [ __ ] incredible it was a
1.8 acre side field it was 3.2 acres in the back and we were on 2.58 Acres he had a 1900 SQ foot 1936 English tutor he had a barn he had a tool shed he had a chicken Coupe uh horse stables uh 20 by 60 in the ground pool uh next to the
Pool men’s bathroom men’s shower women’s bathroom women’s shower $3 million and trees psycho [ __ ] trees maple trees oak trees inhuman it was like you’re at a [ __ ] Alor the house was take your breath away we worked there four months got fired but I told the guy day one I said
When you die I want to buy your house [ __ ] guy dies and I buy his [ __ ] house 1990 so in 1994 the way I got the million dollars was my house is on a 2.5 acre piece that it’s 1 acre zoning the one .8 acre side field next to me is one
Acre zoning the back 3.2 acres is 70 by 100 zoning so I built 11 houses I built I I made a culdesac I got the roads approved I put the roads in I put the sewers in I plotted the land out named it after my oldest son Shawn Michael and
I flipped it and I took that money bought the score phones score phones were [ __ ] killing 900 numbers for killing I have the 800 numbers even though I lost the TV show which would have made me probably a 2030 $50 million a year guy because it was just growing
Growing growing because the TV show was just off the [ __ ] wall it’s the only show it’s the only [ __ ] show um and that’s where I built my reputation is being the source and being entertaining and screaming yelling because I knew that gamblers gambling in reality is
Only and only should be for the rich to have fun and lose money gambling equates to losing money gambling equates to having fun and losing money there is no winning you could say Ste somebody wins nobody wins they’ve never won they never will win two types of gamblers a gambler who says
He’s a winner he’s a liar and he’s a loser or just a straightup gambler that’s just a loser so that’s the reality of gambling since the beginning of [ __ ] time now DraftKings FanDuel me bar stool you anyone that’s not what what we say we [ __ ] get on there we gave a we give
100% to be entertaining to be funny to be enjoyable to take you out of your miserable scumbag [ __ ] life that sucks [ __ ] and you can escape but the reality is eventually gambling is going to ruin everybody gambling being legal is going to ruin children it’s going to ruin
Everyone it takes it teaches you such bad habits and God forbid you win early and you win quick and you got a bank load of money that’s the worst [ __ ] thing that could happen best thing that can happen is you gamble and you go in hard and you get your [ __ ] teeth Ki
Kicked in so then you learn I love gambling I’m GNA gamble forever but let’s take a couple of zeros off what I’m goingon to play so there’s nothing wrong with gambling every [ __ ] day nothing wrong with it I suggest it do it but be responsible because you’re never
Winning and it’s going to ruin your life not only will it ruin your life it will ruin how you go about every decision in your life whether it’s how you treat people whether it’s women whether it’s business because gambling is quick F quick FS like wow in two hours I got a
[ __ ] boatload of money but that’s not how life works well still I’m gonna study St I de listen gambling is for the rich to have fun and lose money and that’s it and that’s the rule so um write I 1997 was my biggest year I write 8 million live with
People from my first building which was 4,000 square feet I flip it into a second building which is now 8,000 square feet so perfect perfect Sitting Duck for the internet to take you down unbelievable dump all my money into the building stateof thee art rocking and rolling the internet
Comes and wrecks me because now people can charge $1 for what I’m charging one million because now the internet is the wild west they’re just lying about their record they’re just lying about their past performance and I can’t compete because they’re National TV I can’t lie
People think I lie I can’t lie what are you talking about I’m in front of you every day now certain times when I get my teeth kicked in I do not go on and go I got my teeth kicked in that’s about the only thing I do that’s could be
Looked at as manipulative but I can’t lie I’ve never lied about a record I don’t lie about Jack [ __ ] what happens is I get a bill in the mail from AT&T how the 900 numbers worked is AT&T pays you 90 days after the money comes in and then
They wait another 20 days so let’s say I write money in September I do not get the September money October November December I get middle of January they hold 25% for chargebacks 25% and then they take 6% for their fee how about this charge backs was
75% no [ __ ] they did not have the ability to block payones so how about a pay phone in a [ __ ] bar everybody’s calling my 900 numbers we don’t know it AT&T is paying me they lost like $40 million in a day they almost went out of business AT&T
And I got a [ __ ] monster bill I owed them like gazillion dollars and I had to pay it because I was personal on that so the internet and that wiped me the [ __ ] out I was done I had a shot to be a billionaire hundred million doll
Guy with 10 million a year coming in me [ __ ] living large going to Atlantic City every [ __ ] day hanging with Donald Trump hanging with Mara Maples when he was [ __ ] around on his first wife [ __ ] Mara I was right there tried to [ __ ] her she said no you know I
Didn’t actually say I want to [ __ ] you but I like was flirting and she [ __ ] looked at me like come on please I’m with [ __ ] Donald Donald was When Donald opened his Casino I was of his top guys there got a $100,000 credit line lost in 30 minutes got another 100
Lost in 30 minutes he had a um executive room where he had the High Roller where he had the restaurant this restaurant called herad and right from The High Roller you walked right into the [ __ ] restaurant and the way Donald made all his money at the casinos his plan was to buy the
Casino and run it into the ground and bankrupt it and rebi it back from the bank at 10 cents on the dollar because he knew he had them buy the blls he did it like seven different times brilliant brilliant [ __ ] move I mean ruthless I mean people who invested with him got
Teeth kicked in but he didn’t because he knew the law so he played the game so he was the first to give me what anyone that was a high roller unlimited rooms I was able to get seven eight rooms for all my friends I was able to get free
Food room and board I was drinking 10 bottles of Cristal a night free limos free plane free so that’s how I rolled so the internet and the 900s destroyed me now I got a real bad name for myself um because they did it like that I kept screaming that I
Could win and I could win and I could win I’m guaranteeing winners so I said let me do this let me get professional athletes to work for me and they’ll be the face of my companies and then we’ll have a crazy Salesforce selling hard under them it’s
Got to be a home run so I get bum Phillips I get uh Craig Morton and I get uh truck knocks all three of work from me thinkk God had to pay each from 135,000 immediately laad it out immediately truck KNX immediately gives me the money back within a week because
He said the NFL won’t not allow him ever into the Hall of Fame if I do this because this is like in the 90s like this is not now now everyone does it so they were useless no one gave a [ __ ] about Craig Mor they didn’t care
That he took the Giants to the Super Bowl he played giant Super Bowl Broncos Super Bowl you know took two different teams he didn’t they didn’t give a [ __ ] they did not care about bum Phillips I caught a bad break which was a good break for their family bad break for
Me way Phillips becomes like the defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos or the Buffalo Bills one of the two at the time so then I’m running half page ads one of my companies was named inside information Sports so I so it was a it was a Monday night game Colts are
Playing I think uh the bills I think it was the bills I say it was the week after Thanksgiving and I say listen I’ve got inside information on this game bum Phillips spoke to Wade Phillips and gave me the game it’s a lock it’s fixed bet everything you own on
It so and no one called spent like literally a quarter of a million dollars advertising the game hund and something to this bozo doesn’t work the deal with bum Craig Morton said I don’t give a [ __ ] about the NFL they [ __ ] me they didn’t give me health insurance they
Really railroad me [ __ ] the NFL he let me say anything he didn’t give a [ __ ] hung out with him and his wife in the city we went to plays we were very close BM Phillips on the other hand you know he was pretty straight up you know Houston had a big reputation very
Standup guy great guy met him met his wife they came here we partied they were the [ __ ] best you cannot drink as much as BM THS like like we were I lit he literally drank like $600 worth of liquor in front of like it was crazy you
Know I had like a big Christmas party this guy did not stop drinking and you couldn’t even tell him was drunk like he wore big Cowboy head Boots the whole G greatest guy ever the deal with bum Phillips is his wife his excuse me his daughter was a hot shot lawyer so before
I ran the ad I would have to send her the ad fax it to her she would click it send the facts back I put it there as documentation go this one time I said [ __ ] it I’m getting killed here I’m going to take a shot I didn’t okay 6:00
In the morning this is where you said this game’s a lock it’s fixed this yeah put your house on it yes 6 o’clock in the morning three weeks later get a knock on the door hi how you doing you’ve been served NFL served me with P was this [ __ ] thick it was
Like a foot [ __ ] high suing me because not allowed to do that can’t do that you’re you know the Integrity of the game is on how does this [ __ ] kid Stu you know have a link with bump Phillips and if and I would have never said that but now Wade Phillips was
Coaching a professional team I think it was the bills and uh they [ __ ] sued me so now oh my God I’m in real trouble you know I’m in really [ __ ] trouble so I get the number one lawyer at the time in New York $435 an hour
Every time I called him he build per minute so I just wanted to talk to him and I kept talking to him because I didn’t want to go to jail and it looked like I was [ __ ] dead talk to him so we went in we had this meeting and the
Meeting was this guy the lawyer was supposed to tell talk to them we were going to negotiate well I just walked into the meeting I said listen I literally pulled my [ __ ] pant down I said listen I got a six inch dick I say I have a 10-inch dick but it’s
Six and I just told them everything and I just pleaded my [ __ ] case and they said okay they said you’re never allowed to hire NFL players ever again we want retractions times three of what you spent on the ads so they had a copy of like every ad
So let’s say I mean I think the exact number was like 160 Grand I had to spend triple them in retractions every week running inside information Sports has never spoken to Wade Phillips has never spoken to Phillips has nothing to do with this and it [ __ ] wiped me so a
Combination of the internet combination of 900 numbers combination of the lawsuit really [ __ ] whacked me so from 1999 to 2006 I was like I’m SU son I did not pay my mortgage for seven years out of eight years I was in four closure four years I had no [ __ ]
Money I didn’t have enough money to buy [ __ ] Gatorade or bottled water I used to take a [ __ ] thing and put water on the tap fill it up and give and bring it to my kids and meanwhile I’m walking around like right because part of the game part of
Business business part of confidence is that you got to walk around hey everything’s great doing great grinding and out great and every day I’d be on the phone 18 hours a day calling people up 18 hours a day just grinding grinding grinding grinding now thank God I still Ed my system and
It grinded enough when is out where I got hot I got hot for two three four months in a row and it would be enough to make a living to stay alive so I was in I was didn’t pay my mortgage didn’t pay nobody for four months I borrowed
Like like three million from Mafia on the street because I had a great reputation and like three points a week that’s 9,000 a week in like just fig nothing comes off the top I borrowed like from $2 million from every friend I have met in my life and in
1997 which was my best year me and Sandy we made 2.4 million on the books I didn’t pay taxes and then I didn’t pay taxes 98 and 99 where I probably made like 400 Grand 400 Grand was in a $7 million hole went to some tax attorneys and they said
Ste you got to go back you got to wipe everyone out I I can’t wipe people out these are all my friends my best friends my mother my father my grandmother you know I I borrowed from everyone I can’t do it and then I just somehow like
Battle tested got [ __ ] hot and from 2005 to 200 11 I paid it right every [ __ ] penny CU you got hot every [ __ ] penny grinded it out beat the board 202 12 figured out the internet 2013 I put free games on the internet 12 13 14 and I hit a solid
62% in every [ __ ] sport in every [ __ ] sport 2015 back 2016 big cat and PFT just start their Ascension and they’re doing funny things at barol and they run an ad where they imitate me big cat imitates one of my old commercials PFT imitates one of my
Commercials and they use my actual 800 number my actual number all sudden my phone’s light up and I write like $4,000 out of the blue I have no idea and then all a some my son’s friend said you were on bar you’re on bar you’re I’m like who the [ __ ] is
Bar the weirdest thing my neighbor who bought my 1.8 AC side field I sold it to one person they built a beautiful house I held on to 2.58 acres 1990 I threw like a probably a million three into the house in the pool made it 4,300 4,300 s
Feet minted it out fixed everything up state-ofthe-art whatever he’s a he’s a orthodontist Ria Maria you know B Ria mother worked works for him she worked for him for 30 years and so Ria now says I can get a ho of Stew so they bring me to the office the first
Time that I met D poroy I’m in the bottom of the old office you know in in New York and he comes down and he’s in a hoodie and he has a he has like a hat on and unassuming I have no [ __ ] idea he
Comes right up to me goes Stu how you doing I’m a big fan and I said Thank you thought he was like the garbage man I thought he was like like who the [ __ ] are you I have no idea I couldn’t really figure I couldn’t tell because I wasn’t really familiar go
Upstairs and I cut a promo with big cat and PFT they had an idea um Donald Trump would not pick the college basketball bracket for March Madness because Barack Obama did it for eight years and he [ __ ] hated him like he [ __ ] still hates him he [ __ ] hates him so he
Says [ __ ] this I’m not doing it so Hank gets an idea puts a wig on me and dresses me up red tie you know exact suit white shirt and uh I screaming you like I’m I’m Donald Trump and it blows the [ __ ] up blows up they
Had me on for a couple of more skits blow up everyone [ __ ] loves me I go against Larry the Goldfish I have this skit where I’m like [ __ ] this goldfish you you’re not St finer and I try to dive in the tank to kill the Goldfish
It’s just when they started that and big cat PFT like [ __ ] uh tackle me and then it blows up and then I go directly against the Goldfish when um the Patriots played uh the Atlanta Falcons and the fish took the Falcons and I took the Patriots and that’s when they were
Down 283 and they won and the all of a sudden I get a call um that July and Dave says Stu me my father and my uncle used to watch you in the 90s we love you we love your [ __ ] show we want to bring it back want to rebranded barcol sports
Advisors and then that’s how I ascended with barcol and that’s how you know the rest is history that’s how I got there God damn yeah what what a story that was [ __ ] incredible can I get a to can I get a timeout so I can go pee hold it yeah I
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Busting with the boys back the episode that’s hilarious it was unassuming seeing Dave so just had no idea who he was he left and then and then someone that I took with me they had to go upstairs they go God bless you they said do you realize that was [ __ ] Dave
Porty like oh my God no I had no idea a [ __ ] the biggest loser ever I think he held it against me for the rest of his life you know not that he cares he doesn’t really care about much you know he’s not like that but I was embarrassed
I would have definitely gone about it my you know totally different way I would have pitched myself I would have said can we do dinner you know something you know whatever but that was it I was like thank you he’s like I’m your biggest fan I’m like thank you that’s crazy him and
His dad used to watch you him his dad and his uncle that’s wild one of the reasons that baral Sports exists is because of me because first of all he had his father was a lawyer so he had what we would call a yisha cup he could
Speak like the wind he was taught that through his father in reality and he had the biggest set of balls in the [ __ ] world like no one has the biggest set of balls than him and he’s and he’s brilliant like people think he’s just some [ __ ] dodo he’s the smartest
[ __ ] guy in the room all the time every time like you know he’s painted in the corner it’s like some misogynistic [ __ ] you know [ __ ] that is so not true he go he can go against any CEO in the World any lawyer and he holds his
Own he knows the law he knows the law and he knows how to like how to catch you when you’re saying certain things and you like get the one around you you’re dead he just figures it out extremely smart Hees he doesn’t have enough credit no not at all he’s the
Greatest counter puncher ever greatest puncher yeah counter puncher yeah ever ever ever he doesn’t start the fight he’ll end the fight yeah yeah yeah when you when you’re talking about uh meeting all these guys all these dudes who are like in the mafia and all that what
Ended up happening to these cats cuz you said you had to pay $25,000 for the rest that was that was that was a question you still paying it so what happened was this when I told you that the guy came to work for me he became my best
Salesman he ran the place the main guy died MH and that was it really and that was [ __ ] it how many years did you have to pay a decade yeah yeah a decade basically bought protection and what would happen was um I was one of the
Worst gamblers you ever saw in your life like I would like the minute like when I went on pardon my take the first time with big cat PFT and Hank you know they were degenerate gamblers they were [ __ ] firing they were betting everything they own they were just going
And I said listen guys the only way to make money is to bet one game a week they were like one game a week we bet 10 games a day like oh there’s no way for you to ever make money you know one game a week is the way
So I know that from experience because I would lock into a week and I’d have one best bet Saturday one best bet Sunday and that should be it but the minute I called in that one bet I would be a I would be like uh all
Right give me this give me this give me this all a sudden I have 30 bets similar to what they do and get murdered my number one Play would always win everything else would lose you come out even no I just get I get killed oh oh I
Get killed even worse so then I get then I get shut off from bookmakers and I go to another bookmaker and I just kept R running debts up major debts and then what would happen is we’d have to go to a sitdown and they don’t know I’m with
Anyone so I’d walk in and they’d be like don’t [ __ ] tell me he’s with you because then uh they’re not allowed to take my action they’re literally so I walked away from a good million and a half bucks of losing BS you go I was with these
People which people my people the his guys the third round like the the final round the final guys final round question number two got can’t lie Right Said the game was fixed book it Buffalo Bills right no absolutely not You Got Served but you never necessarily answered the
Question on if you had the inside if you had inside track didn’t they knew I didn’t so you essentially lied about having the conversation with bum Phillips 100% but you said earlier you don’t lie at all oh no I definitely lied then were there ndas involved with this
Legal meaning you had to sign ndas if it were to ever be brought up again say on bus with the boys you have 100% 100% you have to say no I never talked to bum Phillips 100% did no no well they didn’t ask that they just said I’m never
Allowed to have NFL players work for me and use them as the face of my company how many NFL players would bet with you you see you see then they would go on to assume names because you you would go to jail so I don’t actually know that
You were aware of you don’t have to say names but a lot of hockey players like Ken danaco he called me out of the blue he called me the year they won the Stanley Cup course from the Pittsburgh pen in locker room like how the [ __ ] you’re not [ __ ] kendan what are you
Talking about I said you’re going to you’re playing playing in two hours he goes yeah I know I’m call you from the locker room went on an insane role with the guy one him like qu a million bucks major [ __ ] role major role bitting on games with him like him involved like
Him pay him playing the game like his team yeah no never hockey football okay gotcha he would he would pay you to get the picks and then he would go back the N never hockey we never spoke about hockey but he gave me and my brother
Tickets we went to every home game that year I sat next to his wife and his sister for the championship game when they clinched they they were they won the they won uh two games in Detroit and then game three and four the Stanley Cup
Was at home and we sat next to his wife and his uh sister we weren’t allowed to tell who we were it was the [ __ ] most crazy thing ever iing out with that goes I didn’t say boo really um Yar Yaga in the 90s uh was a big better and he lost like
A million bucks where did he what’ he do he was one of the greatest players ever literally one of the greatest hockey players not as much of a hockey yeah hockey came wearing a hockey jersey all right hockey hockey came to me a lot there was a lot of hockey players hockey hockey
Players are degens for sure right but did NFL players come to you not that literally not none that you’re aware of literally not one that I could drop a name basketball not one that I could drop a name how baseball not one that I
Could drop a name not that yeah I mean I literally have none no what about uh referees never never like that there was never anything like that yeah there was never some Shoeless Joe Jackson type stuff going on no never I was never like involved with that I don’t think I don’t
Think it actually even existed that I know of like you know like I was not like like I never knew about it like there was an Arizona college basketball betting Scandal that one of my cousin’s best friends was there in Arizona and his roommate was doing the fixing and
They called me and told me this but two of the three games they gave me lost so I was like you’re a fraud eight months later it all came out he was [ __ ] telling the truth they threw the game but I didn’t you know like in other
Words I never trusted it like everybody wanted to be a handicapper everybody wanted to have an opinion and they would call me and they wanted to work with me picking games but I knew they had no idea you know they were clueless there was you know they didn’t know what the
[ __ ] they were doing you know they didn’t know what they were doing like I I ran a couple like I ran in let me think how it was in the 80s probably I was I ran uh double strip ads in the New York daily news and the Boston Herald
And I spent like 25,000 a week 125 each paper so you’d open up the paper and they would have all the analysis of the sports games and I would run a strip ad at the bottom and that would [ __ ] do amazing for me absolutely amazing and uh Rick Riley of uh Sports illustr
Came to came to me and he wrote about me and he [ __ ] annihilated me oh my God like that was the last time I ever spoke to a reporter like you know when you hear these stories I said one thing we ate at aad in amville great meal was me him and
Sandy and then when it came out he absolutely destroyed me how happened was one of their custo one they they paid me as a customer and I hit like 40% I got I was cold they caught me for like a three I got [ __ ] terrible and they destroyed
Me in the Sports Illustrated destroyed me um then also I got fined by The Daily News 10,000 Department of Consumer Affairs I think it was 80 late 80s maybe 90 uh they hit me with a fine because I was too aggressive Rive with my ads the person who wrote the ads to
Me first week I went seven and0 so I posted last week s and0 then my advertising agent next week put two weeks ago S and0 I didn’t go 7 and0 that week but it was posted so they immediately took the [ __ ] ad down and finally like
$110,000 so people to this day like when they write bad about me they say St it was fine $10,000 in the department of consum Affairs was like 1990 what what are we we in 2024 right now but you know so there was certain things that I ran
The company and certain things that my salesman uh salesman said that you know I would say keep it clean walk the line but they went over the line so in reality when you say did I lie were there things I did wrong I’m responsible so yes I did do things wrong certain
Things not premeditated not on a daily basis but it was [ __ ] done the the and you almost just understood that the line was always going to be Crossing some way and more G be like I don’t want to hear about it correct you know what
I’m saying I you know keep it as clean as possible but you know whatever you do what you got to do um the when Rick Riley wrote about me I mean I caught the worst break [ __ ] possible so let’s say it was in sports illustrate a big deal the cover that
Issue that I was in was the one that Magic Johnson got a so it was their biggest yeah [ __ ] issue ever so like everybody read it ah everybody [ __ ] read it how do you feel about that now knowing like it’s you know people have those like shots
And you look at that as part of like your reputation you know something I’m in a [ __ ] business I’m in a 99% of the people that are in my business business a scumbags low lives and thieves from day one they lie from day one they double side games they get
Half one side half another from day one they book make they say I know the bookmaker I’m good like a guy they’ll say can you bet 100,000 on this game no I can only bet 10,000 they’ll give a number which is them sitting right next to themselves the bookmaker they change
Their voice they pick up the and they’re go yeah what the [ __ ] you want yeah who the [ __ ] sent you [ __ ] you yeah yeah what you want to bet 100,000 a game send me a quarter of a million yeah you got you got quar of a million credit you
Could bet up to quarter of a million they send the money and then they either lose they give him a game for the whole amount and if they win the game phone number gets disconnected and so does this guy’s phone number get disconnected if they lose the game it’s a wash and
They just stole the money so I’ve never done any of that I don’t do that so compared to 99.9% of people in my industry even when I was rolling in the 80s and 90s like let’s say I’ve been squeaky squeaky clean since squeaky clean 2001 squeaky you know there is never
Because it’s because the only person you’re dealing with is either me or my son Alex that’s it that’s literally it it’s the only people you’ll ever speak to mhm and uh I never did that so basically like you’re in a scumbag game but you’re as
You try to be as as as good as possible in the scum corre exactly exactly always he’s a good scumbag exactly but but but I’m talking the 80s and night not not now now you go to jail right now mistake you go to jail you can’t do that you
Know there’s no you’ve had the ability to like hustle and sell and correct you know manipulate the brain into being able to sell like get your product across with me trust me like I like in other words two years ago on Barcelo Sports advisor you know had I I won the
Overall record and I was 15 wins four losses two Ties on my mortal ax people sent me money every week that I never heard of that I don’t even know who they are saying Stu I love you I bet you Mor Stu I won i r like nine in a row like
And I was yelling about it like so this year I was nine n and one on the Mortal AXS I mean not horrific but like on the overall games I was [ __ ] terrible you know like 45% terrible because uh it just didn’t work for me like I like I
Told like on barel Sports advices um the public won sucker money won teams that had injuries I like the teams with the injuries I like the inferior team I like the dog [ __ ] team I like the team that cannot win I’m going to be on that team
This year year didn’t win this year I look like a fool certain times because the next day guy go didn’t you know there was five injuries here didn’t you know the quarter you know whatever but normally that worked for me so I’ve been doing this so long like I tease about it
But I I’m gut level I measured my success by the decade not the week month of year you know I didn’t roll off a turnup truck and all of a sudden I’m St finer you know like in other words you know people don’t pay me millions of
Dollars a year because I’m a [ __ ] jerk off they pay me because they in not only are their sons have made money with me but their fathers have made money with me and it could be going back to their grandfathers I have three generations of people he’s put on a
Master class right now that have [ __ ] gone through with me yeah so in other words [ __ ] yeah wasn’t my best football year that doesn’t mean it’s not going to be my best basketball year upcoming but for you know I did not have a winning year you know I’m not afraid of that you
Know doing this since 1980 not afraid of that not afraid that i’ been [ __ ] my my dick has been on the line for 44 [ __ ] years when you start betting like uh how big of would your units get in your Peak when you would go back spting 100 150,000 a game really
Yeah yeah getting my dick kicked getting [ __ ] hammered why whenever you talk to a season Gambler it’s always like negative negative town like big cat Dave all those guys are like negative about gambling but you still [ __ ] do it every day well because it’s first of all
It’s very competitive like like we spoke like I don’t know if we were rolling but we spoke about Dave Dave is one of the smartest humans that have ever walked this [ __ ] Earth Dave has a yish a cup which you know means that he is so glib
He could talk on any subject whether he knows anything about it or not balls a stone his father was a lawyer he thinks like a lawyer he thinks analytically he thinks he wants to back you into into a corner so you can make a mistake and then he’s the greatest counter puncher
Ever but the [ __ ] is so competitive he got extremely lucky being born in Massachusetts he caught six [ __ ] Super Bowls he caught the the Celtics championships he caught the Boston Bruins championships he caught the Boston Red Soxs from jerk offs and perennial losers to being arguably winning the most [ __ ] World Series in
Any team since 2004 so in other words he has so much winning under his belt and that [ __ ] is so competitive and the hardest thing in the world to do is win money game big cat big winner very smart he looks like you know plays the
Dummy role plays like Amad dodo you know that [ __ ] is super smart he has a photographic memory he knows everything about everything he never says he doesn’t know unless he knows it and he [ __ ] knows it it’s like PFT those guys are scary smart you think they’re just you know two swinging dicks
It’s the reason that [ __ ] you know they write 350,000 a week on [ __ ] Parton my take it’s number one podcast in the [ __ ] world there’s a reason that they’re so [ __ ] great um big cat so competitive hates to [ __ ] lose hates to lose it’s a detriment to anybody in life I hate to
[ __ ] lose if I’m walking in airport with Sandy and I don’t like the [ __ ] person to my right I’m going on that [ __ ] escalator before them I don’t give a [ __ ] if the 80 years old if they’re [ __ ] limping if they’re crippled if they’re in a wheelchair I just [ __ ] competitive I’m [ __ ]
Cutting them [ __ ] off it’s a detriment I don’t like to lose so gamblers especially successful men and women who have either inherited money through death accident lock who have built their businesses up from nothing and now are worth thousands hundreds of thousands millions Dave’s case hundreds of
Millions they don’t back down they don’t [ __ ] back in any Walk of Life they don’t back down gambling is unbeatable that doesn’t mean that these competitive people that own 70 car lots and I’m making 2 million a week they go h team A’s playing Team B how the [ __ ]
Am I not going to be able to figure this [ __ ] out I got a 50% shot but they don’t realize they don’t they don’t realize they don’t and that’s really what it is I had a um a pamplet that in 1992 I was sending a quarter of a
Million dollar quarter of a million pamphlets out every two weeks that gave the schedule rotation of the games it was called the Vegas rotation the reason the schedule was critical if you’re a gambler is I sent it to bookmakers and then bookmakers sent it to their clients
Because like on a Saturday or like on a Sunday there’s no [ __ ] internet how do you know the how do you know the schedule of the games so if you called a bookmaker in the old days 80s and 90s is what you would hear I would go uh Stu
131 all right Stu uh liines of six uh Patriots a seven uh Steelers a four uh Nicks a six and they would read it right in a [ __ ] row at the speed of light unless you have the schedule which was called the Las Vegas rotation you’re
[ __ ] dead you have no idea so you would have to write the lines in the book so I had the book so I used to inundate the advertising with my 900 numbers and my 800 ads so offshore Sports books were opened in 1990 first time first time you could bet
Offshore first time you had any shot besides local bookmakers the only place that you could advertise Nationwide would be an offshore Sports B Dave buen opened a place in Panama called um s DB Global and it and it it um stood it’s it uh the initials were for Dave
Steve booted okay open the place in Panama and Panamanian government stole $4 million from him put a gun in his [ __ ] head and said get the [ __ ] out of town and they just robbed his [ __ ] money they literally said we’re not letting you [ __ ] do this get the [ __ ]
Out they moved to Costa Rica they’re about to go out of business in Costa Rica because they cannot figure out how to advertise tce the newspapers the TV will not allow ads in the United States I put a half page ad for buen in my pamphlet and he wrot $4 million the
First year off of My AG the offer Sportsbook business was started by Me was started by me what do you mean by started by you I there would have been no offshore [ __ ] sports book business because he was the first person there got thrown out of Panama so everybody heard about
It they were not going over there and then he went to ca Rica and he was the first and he was the first big business he was the first sports book the number one sports book where people in this country you basically got connected with him called him here’s how you’re gonna
Do this um illegally can send money offshore and you could bet and that was the first big offshore sports book so I used to make money on advertise I advertised for him and he also advertised on my score fonts so I was like the first to really
Push the offshore Sports books I was the first to get it off the [ __ ] ground and then eventually became like mainstream but then he eventually got arrested and he had to he had to sell Us sell everything and you know he didn’t go to jail but he had to pay like some
Absorbent like $4 million fine then he he eventually uh he passed away he was a good guy did you know he was going down uh no he called me one day because because he said he goes He because he used to have um he his lawyers told him
It was legal as long as he followed the money laundering laws we weren’t allowed to money launder he thought it was legal so all the money he made the way he got caught was he paid taxes on it brought it back into this country lived in Miami
Paid taxes on it made like 10 million back toback 10 10 million 10 million then they arrested him because you weren’t allowed to be a bookmaker you literally weren’t allowed to be a bookmaker so he was actually trying to do it the right way and he and he got [ __ ] nailed if
He left all the money in Costa Rica they wouldn’t even [ __ ] know he brought it back and pay taxes on it that’s [ __ ] nuts with two for the money yes so how does what was the process of how you yeah I need to know that okay so during my 900 number Reign
From 199 95 I had a lot of people that work for me that were quality scor phone announcers and good enough handicappers that they fed these 900 numbers one of the kids that work for me Brandon link link l NK he worked for me and he
Was my top guy I had a 9860 3210 and then I had a 986 03030 so I had a $25 number that wrote $3 million a year and then I had a $50 number that I bumped to that wrote $2 million a year he wrote about two and a
Half million then I had like another eight people work for me that wrote like two million combined so he was the best of the rest not me because I was toer and I won a lot at that time thank God he went into a horrific losing streak I’m talking 10% for nine
Months so I said Brandon you’re a great salesman you have a great articulate voice I’m GNA have my brother-in-law give you the games and you’re going to feed them on your numbers and that work for about three months and then when the business quadrupled because Kevin was
Winning Brandon lost his [ __ ] mind so I bought him a Porsche at the time 900 King on the license plates what Rolex so one day come to the office and he was like my best buddy people hated him because he hung with me he went
Every day he hung with me went to all the sporting events with me went to Super Bowls went to um Broadway ate out to dinner every day at my house the salesman upstairs were on the phone pounding away so downstairs we have two satellites and five TVs in my office in
1987 think about that 1987 bars didn’t even have it I had two satellites on the roof to get the NFC games you had to have one satellite to get the AFC gam you have to have another and I was way ahead of my time state-ofthe-art so he
Would literally hang out with me and watch the games and he was best friends with my brother and they would [ __ ] [ __ ] and they would do a lot of things so he gets pissed and he writes this long letter to me and he gives me the Rox back and says
Listen that was [ __ ] [ __ ] made you a ton of [ __ ] money I was your boy you [ __ ] me blah blah leaves me goat that was 1995 goes To like Australia for two weeks then comes back and he’s balls broke he cat’s at the riv Country Club I’m trying to get a hold of him can’t find him no matter what I do can’t find the [ __ ] guy can’t get a hold of him detectives friends giv 50 Grand cash
Find this [ __ ] guy I want him to come back work for me because he left me in 95 he set up someone to take over his spot and 95 I wrote 11 million 96 14 million 976 million so in the letter he says I’m not [ __ ] you
You’re well set to go on your way you’re never gonna miss me but I can’t work for you no more and he was right but now I’m killing so all like let me get a hold of this [ __ ] I can’t find him and yeah I mean you can’t even make this
[ __ ] up so I have like 220 full and parttime people working for me it’s before the internet killed me it’s before the 900 numbers went in the toilet 75% chargebacks before I had to borrow money and go into bankrupt not bankruptcy but you know destitute for seven years and can’t pay the
Mortgage why do my salesman comes down and goes you’re not going to believe this my cousin owns a security firm in Arizona and to keep proparazzi away from stars and Dustin Hoffman and Renee Russo are riding horses in Arizona at the Grand Canyon and they over here Dustin
Hop say I’m playing this Jewish guy Stu finer in New York in a movie I said a Salesman do me a favor get the [ __ ] out of here you jerk off what are you out of your [ __ ] you do I mean are you [ __ ] is this a joke he goes
I swear to [ __ ] God Renee Russo’s husband Danny Gilroy wrote the screenplay and I swear to God there’s no mistake here I’m like get me [ __ ] Danny Gill his number guy gets me Danny Gilroy’s number called Danny Gilroy on the phone Renee Russo’s husband I go listen you lowlife
[ __ ] [ __ ] I’ll [ __ ] your wife on [ __ ] National TV who the [ __ ] are you to play to [ __ ] write a movie about [ __ ] me I’ll sue your [ __ ] sucking balls and I hang up the phone leave my number call me I am I am telling you you one minute later Brandon
Calls me after two years can’t find the kid Ste what are you doing you can’t threaten Danny Gilroy you’re gonna blow the whole thing up blow what thing up [ __ ] and he tells me the whole story he caddied Renee he caddied Danny Gilroy Renee Russo’s husband and Dustin Hoffman
At the River Country Club he lined Danny Gilroy up for a 50 foot putt that he sent Justin Hoffman on the spot gave him $20,000 because during the 18 holes he pitched his story about him working for me I go well listen there’s no [ __ ] way you’re going to do this without me
He goes I’ll come back to work for you and we’ll make it happen he came back to work for me as if he never stopped became a superstar again working for me sits on Dustin h man’s desk 98 99 20002 2001 hands it back says I can’t do the
Project Danny Gilroy Renee Russo shop the [ __ ] thing 2002 3 4 2005 Jim Robinson that owned Morgan Creek production last house on the Block finally says let’s do the movie and they got Dustin Hoffman they out totally out they got alpacino play me Matthew MCCC to play Brandon
Renee Russo to play Sandy um Jeremy Piven to play my brother-in-law Kevin Duffy that ran the [ __ ] place and the customer that we took for a ton of money was amand deante and in the movie they made me sign off all the rights and everything the sports advisers in that movie
Alpacino Matthew MCC Jeremy p on my TV show so two weeks before the movie [ __ ] asss all of a sudden Brandon says [ __ ] you I’m not letting you in alucino wasn’t you I go what do you mean it wasn’t me it’s my I [ __ ] signed off this is my [ __ ] TV show he
Does not let me do all the interviews that he does at the time I went partners with Dave Bin’s son Steve booten he became a total drug addict lost all his [ __ ] money and he was some entitled [ __ ] scumbag really the worst of the worst would to your face
Would hug you kiss you and then try to [ __ ] your wife behind your back you know the biggest Thief ever which is most of the time what happens when the father has money or your family has money and then the son is just [ __ ] you know
He’s married into it and like he thinks he’s a big shot because he’s got his father right whatever to do whatever and it wasn’t all ugly with Steve buen because he got um sportsbook.com and sports.com he got million dooll deals for me to advertise on my score phones
When I bought the score phones from Jerry mccar that went bad so it isn’t like all bad he didn’t [ __ ] me totally but he eventually [ __ ] me so and then he goes into business with Brandon and [ __ ] Brandon because he says to me stew don’t worry about it
We set up a website for Brandon we changed Brandon’s name to Brandon lang.com and at the time I went into the internet and I started doing really good with websites so Steve comes to me says listen let Brandon run we’re going to take every customer that advertises and
Pays Brandon Lang and we’re gonna just push him at to steiner.com and all these other websites we own so we used Brandon’s site as a lost leader Brandon never knew and we took all his [ __ ] customers so I made like $6 million off of it and forever eventually Brandon
Came around and eventually Steve wrote a book and said yeah of course Al CH stew fing and the movie was a disgruntled employees standpoint on working for stew you know that was [ __ ] what happened with the movie so that’s the whole movie story in a nutshell I’m gonna watch that
My God it’s a good one because basically it’s because it’s Brandon Lang in the movie right Brandon link is Brandon Lang right and it it it feels like the hiccup of him going on this dry spell and then your brother-in-law making forcing him to give Brin into the picks and he had to
Do them and then you you know hit it big and he got pissed off and left they more so made it about getting too close with the family getting close with your wife you thinking that the cheating thing’s going on and that’s why he writes the
Letter gives the Rolex back and all the watch and everything else because it’s like hey we’re we’re both going down a bad way alucino is going down a bad way trying to do private you know all the stuff not trying to like ruin the movie but did correct it’s really it’s awesome
You’ll really like it the the scene in the movie in the restaurant that restaurant was I think he [ __ ] Jamie King I think her name is um where alucino sets that up no no no no no no he [ __ ] this girl in in this restaurant well I don’t remember how it
Was played in the movie where at where in the movie Brandon thinks it’s him gaming her up but really alucino set it up set up right okay what really happened it was it was a restaurant called Nanny IL vetto 61st between Lex and park yeah the two restaurants we ran
In is that restaurant and Smith wsky we went there almost every night with 20 people I’m spending like 6 to 8,000 a night on dinner like because I had unlimited money and I I didn’t have the yeah I was never good with saving it and I I live like I’m gonna die tomorrow
It’s how I do it it’s not a great way to be it’s not a great way to be married to me or whatever or financial advisors but that’s how I do it so you know like if I died at 30 I had a great life so I’m
Living like I’m going to be 60 three January 31st same birthday as PFT day before um big cats January 30th then Craig carton’s January 3st and uh Josh whatever that Josh the uh who’s the kid that does BFF with Josh Richard is January 31st his birthday’s the same as
Ours too but um so I’ve been I got SI I got 33 years of a role that I never thought I was going to happen I thought I was going to die at 30 because I just had the perfect life you know I could deal with losing money gambling I could
Deal with the sitd downs I could deal with all the craziness because I just had so much fun you know what I mean like no one had as much F you couldn’t have as much fun as I did you couldn’t bring an Entourage forever everywhere every night like I hit the Super Bowl
Every night for almost 30 [ __ ] years but Brandon um what was the point with that I’m sorry I just I was just saying it looked like some of the Hollywood they made it more about the wife situation theie the the movie is specifically 70% fake 30% true like
Every Hollywood movie but it really is how Brandon felt you know what I mean he is a disgruntled employees standpoint on him working for me on him thinking he’s coming up he’s the real one he’s better but the the you alino games from him away that was his only contention
Nothing else yeah my only like and then he used to like Brandon used to get food for the office upstairs which he thought was beneath him so one day we get a TCBY order and Brandon is getting the order and my brother comes down and says Kevin want you to go
Upstairs and get the order and Brandon was like I’m G [ __ ] get the order and my what my brother cracks him across the face and moves his nose from here to here he still has problems with his nose so of course we go to the hospital the the doctors are going you
Got to Sue this [ __ ] guy right now you could [ __ ] put him in jail this you’re going to have problems here for the rest of your [ __ ] life you’re going to need surgery you’re not gonna be able to breathe right and I’m listening to this and I
[ __ ] call my guy up and I said you better get to this [ __ ] place quick because we got an issue here so he tells Brandon on the [ __ ] table you [ __ ] ain’t got out here you broken nose the last [ __ ] problem you’re going to [ __ ] have thank God because my
Brother would go to jail definitely definitely you’ve had to make a couple calls over your during your time oh I’ve had to make like 40 calls that I can’t tell any of them that’s the only soft one I can tell yeah I’ve made a lot of
Calls you can make calls still I have no choice I’ve made a lot of things yeah lot of really disgusting ugly like holy [ __ ] like how did that how can you live with yourself and you do what you got to do you know certain [ __ ] gets scary you
Know I put myself in some bad spots but it is what it is you know it is what it is what a line right what a line how do you feel like you’re your outlook you know principles philosophy whatever’s changed since those times where all of this stuff basically
Happened me like in other words I have an insane attitude of gratitude yeah because the way the way you are like embracing the positivity the way that people understand stuer in the bar Sports World it also sounds like it’s a very different stuer that is in this world of gambling the mafas the
Everything else like I’ve had to do what I’ve had to 20 years um almost 30 years removed from that think about that most of the stoies most of my peers weren’t even born yet or or were young like I’m the oldest stoie I’m going to be 63 you know I don’t act 63
Act like I’m [ __ ] 23 MH but so um I have an extreme attitude to gratitude I have insane wisdom due to failure after failure after failure to Never Lose Your Enthusiasm you know I have an overall scope on gambling where kids call me all the time that like my business is the
Hardest business in the world because it isn’t like I ever get people Stu I want to pay you never gambled in my life this is the first time let’s go I never get that never I get train wrecks St I’m stuck XYZ St I got murdered and I’m in a really bad
Spot stew I lost money I did not have my first thing I say to them which is so counterproductive for my businesses Hey listen gamblings for the rich staff fund lose money I mean you’re [ __ ] a psycho how about go to Gamble’s Anonymous don’t ruin your [ __ ] life I
Don’t need your money now I wouldn’t have said that when I was in my 20s but I say it for the last 15 years so I’m trying to dig someone out of a hole and they’re putting me in a spot that I gotta win right [ __ ] now and that’s impossible that’s
Impossible there’s no way to help someone if all I ever did was get someone from scratch I could manage a bank roll I can understand the whole thing I got a shot I got no shot these people are already destroyed they’re hammered because people on their own
Think they could win and then people chase thinking they could win then they’re going to ask their dog their mother their father the banker who they like and they’re gonna bet those games then they’re gonna watch some [ __ ] jerk off shows and they’re gonna [ __ ] get hammered again you can’t go on any
Sports channel right now and not get a handicapper or or an analyst that’s played the game that’s literally staring at you telling you what’s going to happen now he’s not telling you to bet on it but he’s so confident in his analysis that you do
Bet on it and then you get hammered and then they [ __ ] come to me what am I going to do I mean you’re already dead so it’s a really tough tough business now I do get people who have unlimited money trust fund people people that are responsible I do get them but that’s
Like 20% of my business 80% of my business is train wrecks that I pray to God I can get hot tonight for the guy because half of the people go listen I got one shot I got this I I’m dead if you don’t win and I’m losing for that guy 40% I’m
Losing for that situation ation guaranteed 40% of the time guaranteed 60% is insane winning that’s inum winning now you’re put in a position where you’re in a [ __ ] hot you have to win so it’s a really tough business so my point of my attitude is that my experience being on this Earth
So long I’m a father of four I’m a husband being you know no matter what I performatively talk about my body account and who I you know I’m married to the same [ __ ] girl to 10 years at a day I got no prenuptual I am not [ __ ] really good-look at all I don’t
Have a big dick I do eat ass and and and and eat [ __ ] I’m great at it but you know nobody’s going wow I’m gonna [ __ ] that guy so I I’m with one person you know what I mean I’m really that’s who I am you know I’m a father I’m a husband
And um I have a lot of knowledge because of my failures and my psycho bad experiences so that most people’s lives suck that’s the cold hard reality of life life is life is very hard very difficult it is painful so what I try to do is give a
Little brevity to gambling brevity to life be super nice to people I help the less fortunate I do so much that I will no one will ever know incl to my wife what I do for people because I was taught in the over his Anonymous rooms when I went
There because I was 262 and I got down to 139 because of the rooms they taught me what to do they taught me I’m eating over my feelings and problems of feelings so that I know how hard life is and that most people do not ever catch breaks
Most people have an unsatisfied life so I try to tell tell people to be great take no [ __ ] from no one you can do it but like in other words the reason I was successful first of all I was with the same girl she’s my bookkeeper her father
Worked for me her brother-in-law worked for me her two sisters worked for me so I was married into that right that’s number one and they helped me tremendously so I didn’t stray like I could have like she’s been with me to all the sporting events she’s been with
Me to all the craziness she’s there that is invaluable that’s number one otherwise I would have crash and burn no two ways about it it’s not there not a [ __ ] you know I would have had babies you know I would have got sued I who knows whatever but the point is that
Um I was taught that you have to help the less fortunate and never get found out you can’t you can’t say I did this for someone look at me because it doesn’t count it doesn’t count so your my plight in life my reality of life is
That I [ __ ] am I want to treat the garbage man same way I’ll treat cour I walk into that [ __ ] bar New York office first New York office second Chicago I [ __ ] say hello to everyone I look everyone in the eye I shake everyone’s hand I don’t remember half of
Their [ __ ] names but I make sure that I say hello and I look them in the eye and they know that I uh am real and they can rely on me because as you know you guys get the World by the Bulls you were you were gifted with such in
Intelligence you can articulate you have insane social skills you have an insane reputation and you were phenomenal athletes no one has that you know no one really has that that’s why you are who you guys are you know I got the ability I bounce back from tragedy and
Circumstances that should have taken me out so many times if I made the wrong step certain times if I went like certain times I was late to certain situations that 14 people died I should have been there I was not there I could have been smacked around with my
Partners when the mafia came after I was not there I got sued by the NFL that could have gone so bad and so wrong I went bankrupt not bankrupt but I was balls broke I didn’t pay my mortgage for four years they didn’t come after me somehow I was able to just constantly
Talk on the phone every month to the people I’m gonna make it happen I’m not going to beat you I’m living here I got you know playing the game outwardly everything’s okay inwardly I’m [ __ ] dying then I I got a a [ __ ] modification and on my morgage and I
Went B the next month for another three [ __ ] years and I was able to pull it off so I had a $650,000 mortgage they put like a million one onto it it was like a million s right now I owe like 12 payments left I own the [ __ ] house
Like a $2 million house [ __ ] it I did it I don’t know how so the point is that you have to believe in yourself unconditionally you can’t rely on no one you really can’t like people say it’s great to have good friends and people to
Help you yes but no it has to come from you you have to make your own life you have to make your own success you have to do it because there’s so many [ __ ] opportunities out there right now especially with the internet you could reach the world you got a good idea it’s
Easier than ever right now but you still have to have the balls to do it and you have to be able to deal with the people that come after you say you’re a loow life say you’re a scumbag the better you do listen people hate people that are un
Successful they really are it’s nuts it’s [ __ ] crazy you know like people say don’t read the comments Dave and and bigat PFT first time I met him don’t read comments I read every [ __ ] comment every comment I delete any [ __ ] person that that that [ __ ] is
A scumbag I hide it and I delete it I every comment Facebook Twitter Instagram every [ __ ] comment I’ve never not read a comment because you’re not gonna piss on me in my [ __ ] house and my social media is my [ __ ] house I worked hard at that you know what I
Mean I’m 63 [ __ ] years old no one no one’s ever said hey St f is the greatest guy ever you know like bar stool loves me and that stuff but no newspapers no media [ __ ] ESPN never picked me up Fox never picked me up no media Outlet
Ever picked me up no newspaper ever picked me up matter of fact they uh tried to put me in my grave so in other words I’ve dealt with a lot of adversary but I’m not going to read about it you you’re going to piss on me on my [ __ ]
On my social that’s my backyard that’s my life I built that up I got 100 70,000 [ __ ] followers on Twitter and my Twitter’s been taken down three [ __ ] times and I’ve been sh I was the ultimate Shadow ban they they Shadow Bann me they created the word to Shadow
Ban me my Instagram’s been taken down twice I got 130,000 followers on Instagram those are hard numbers you know what I mean because I’m not day poroy I think I am but I’m not I’m not [ __ ] big cat not PFT I’m not you I’m not you you know what I mean I’m really
Not but I bring enough to the table that every day I work hard every day everybody knows what I eat what I do when I take a [ __ ] when I [ __ ] my wife and that’s my game so my point is that you don’t rely on nobody you want
Something to happen you [ __ ] do it it’s the barol way barol ain’t going to do [ __ ] for you they’re really not you could work there forever and be a nobody and make no money what did Brianna do Brianna literally I remember like was [ __ ] yesterday she was some scared
Little [ __ ] intern and I went out of my way I mean obviously because she was beautiful but she do I mean but she doesn’t look like she did then now you know but I went out of my way to say hey L you’re gonna [ __ ] be great you give
It 100% [ __ ] 200% like anytime like for example people would walk into that office and I watched it it really drove me [ __ ] crazy Brianna can I take a picture with you meanwhile Grace is sitting right at the [ __ ] desk next to her and Grace never blinked but I
Watched a couple times she put a head down her head down because you know like she didn’t get the buzz anytime I took a picture of Brianna I said [ __ ] Grace come in the picture so I’m aware but again I’m 62 years old to be aware like
That you have to see a lot I’ve seen a lot so you know my message would be like my motto my MO is to [ __ ] you rely on yourself you trust yourself no one’s better than you my point that I was talking about when I started the
Business me and Sandy we worked 19 hours a day for over 15 years seven days a week there was no difference I did not go to people’s weddings I did not go to people’s birthday parties I did not go to Backyard barbecues I [ __ ] worked
Like an animal so I know how it is to work and you have to sacrifice and the sacrifice is painful and the sacrifice is deep and you’re going to lose friends and you’re going to lose friendships but to be successful that’s the price you pay that is similar to price you pay and
And people hate you jealousy is crazy it’s [ __ ] crazy the better you do the more people hate you well said you know it’s it’s so that’s my ammo [ __ ] man it was great Happ me and you probably put in look there’s 238 right now we probably put in eight minutes
Total I think that would take the under on that yeah yeah so maybe we got for five minutes yeah it’s incredible to hear your story and it’s incredible it’s an honor listen I’m so blessed I really am it me I know there’s a lot of gaps
And you go on and on and on I can speak for another five hours yeah no question but I feel like we got a good front to back cover yeah it was really I can come back anytime I remember meeting you and then not I didn’t know obviously your
Background and all that and Will was kind to fill me in it was back in New York and then obviously seeing you on Barcelo Sports advisers and in the top dog energy it’s incredible to see you turn on the energy and also the Gratitude you’re very genuine person
That’s it’s very nice to finally get to know you a little bit thank you this is awesome thank you so the show was called initially the sports advisor Sports advisors and Dave uh said I want to Rebrand it and you’re the guy to do it with because we want to bring back all
That I want to bring back your show you know and he said and he literally said to me my son was still pissed to this [ __ ] day he said what do you need you know meaning how much money what do you need I was like [ __ ] Dave can I run
Two commercials on the show like I used to he goes yeah goes that’s all I [ __ ] need because I’ll make my own money like it’s probably a bad move I probably should have hit him for a salary and then I would have probably got a couple million dollars worth of
Pen stock and you know I missed out on that because I’m not shop like that I’m just not you know we am I you know I’m a quick to make a decision but I was so grateful you know to I’m like [ __ ] Dave poroy just [ __ ] called me I got to respect that
You know what I mean and if I can’t make my own way off of that then I’m not stuner you know then what the [ __ ] I’ve been talking about my whole [ __ ] life right you know what I mean yeah so I mean so I got you guys the book bet I
Can okay this book you know tells the whole story then guys I got two more here for you guys too and then I got do the source and then I got the [ __ ] towel which is a fabulous piece of merchandise hello Mr [ __ ] tow pick hello hello hello
And it’s a great read I mean you take a [ __ ] and that book will be you know an hour and a half you you got the whole [ __ ] book on on belt and then most of the time you know because you guys love gambling and love the the roller coaster
It’s a great story you read it twice it’s just [ __ ] great you know and then there’s a lot of things I didn’t talk about that are in the book you know what I’m saying that uh you know I didn’t want to bring up but you know
It’s in the book it’s black and white everything in happen is black and white it’s in give it a read appreciate you man yeah it’s a good read so appreciate uh yeah you sharing all this with us my pleasure do you have fun on busing with
The boys this is the best this is the [ __ ] best I I know so pumped I I remember listening to your episode on uh spit and chicklets actually and Shout by the way shout out to boys for these jerseys we just did a uh sandbagger and
A podcast with them um but I saw your interview on spin chicklets and I was like this dude’s a [ __ ] riot those guys are the best I [ __ ] love them and they [ __ ] love me I love them I mean they’re the the greatest they [ __ ] work dick off no issue no two
Ways about look the only way to be successful right there’s no other way to do it otherwise everyone would be successful people are not willing to work seven days a week 24 hours a day they’re really not and there’s no other way to do it there’s just not then go
Work for someone and deal with it true thank you brother my phenomenal podcast star thank you big hugs tiny kisses okay okay good okay yeah that was awesome good
Recorded: January 24th 2024 | In this week’s episode we are joined by the man, the myth, the legend, Stu Feiner. He blessed us with his presence on Slips & Picks and following that, he hopped on the bus to chat with the boys. This whole pod really feels like story time Uncle Stu.
The guys immediately get into it and start all the way from the beginning. Stu gives his life story from where he grew up, the struggles he had as a kid by getting bullied in school and the tough home life he had with his family. He gets into some crazy stories from his childhood and it seemed like he had some wild story from each grade growing up.
Following his childhood, he dives into how he got into the sports gambling world and became the biggest sports picker in the country. Stu talks about why he decided he wanted to get into the gambling world and all of the different roadblocks that he ran into on his way to the top. He talks about how many lucky breaks he has had but also gets into the massive unlucky breaks he had, some including missing out on 10’s of millions of dollars. As he is telling these stories from back in the day, you can’t help but visualize everything that is happening and it almost makes it feel like he was a part of an old gangster/mafia movie. Some of the stories he gets into just seem unbelievable but they are most certainly true.
Finally the guys get into the movie that was made about Stu “Two For The Money”. He talks about the backstory in that movie getting made and how never saw anything from the movie, he wasn’t even allowed to be at the premiere of the movie. After this interview, you can’t help but think Stu is one of the most interesting people alive. Strap in and enjoy!
0:00 Intro
3:03 Hunting With The Boys
16:55 The Chiefs And Taylor Swift Are Inevitable
34:22 Will Patrick Mahomes Catch Tom Brady?
39:43 Can Mitch Redeem Himself?
50:08 Bringing It Back Even Though We Did It Last Week
1:00:20 STU FEINER INTERVIEW STARTS
1:01:57 The Start Of Stu
1:32:30 Stu’s Gambling Life, Literally And Figuratively
2:33:36 The NFL Came After Stu
2:58:30 How Stu Feels About His Reputation
3:11:03 Al Pacino = Stu Feiner
3:25:50 The Tale Of 2 Stu’s
3:37:24 Stu And Barstool Marriage
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22 Comments
I love the podcast. But I think JP was a minus for you, re: Taylor Swift. "I'm not a Taylor Swift fan. Scooter Braun made her."
Berry Gordy didnt "make" the Jackson Five…Michael Jackson.
Clive Davis didn't "make" Whitney Houston.
Gordy and Davis are 2 old Dudes who Got Lucky and the Richer for having done business with the 2 of them.
His not being a Fan, I get that. I admire her success,but i don't patronize her either. I dont know her lyrics or own her albums either.
But she's a Force of Nature.
Just my opinion.
Respect
LMOA, Taylor said “suck to live”🤣🤣🤣
I am captivated.
Didn't Will say the Chiefs would not even make the playoffs? Well played.
Stu’s dad is an abuser no wonder Stu wants everyone to like him! Great insight to a wild personality
Yes, Mahomes is 🐐
I laughed. I cried. I came. Thank you, Stuart Feiner. You are a Jewish American king and an inspiration to all
What a story! Stu is the best
Have heard many of Stu's story a bunch but him saying his dad loved his family while rage beating them is insane. Keeping my thoughts to myself but no chance in hell would I be wiping my dad's ass if he treated us like that. He'd be rotting in a nursing home. Stu is a better person I could ever be. Kudos.
I've heard Stu's story half a dozen times now on various shows. This was the best version yet; more (new) details than I ever recall hearing prior and great work from the boys just letting him flow w/o interruptions
Best bussin to date. No question. An all timer
Love how they just let him speak, KFC should take notes from these two! They are fantastic listeners which is a terribly underrated quality to have
Wolf Branch Public 113 and Althoff Catholic 1975- 88 Belleville all day every day beat us. Mr Smith had a 1" paddle with holes drilled threw and electric tape to welt and have no air to stop the pain. My parents beat me after. I never did anything.
“Made my bones” lmao
"Gag me dude" 😂😂😂 fair enough hahah what a fcking question
A top 5 BWTB episode.. Love Stu
40 minutes into the Stu interview and I forgot the boys were on the bus
Fire episode 🎉
Fuck yeah stu! I always liked stu but what he said about deleting peoples bs comments on social media made me jump up and cheer!! I fuckin love you stu!
Hands down one of the top interviews of the decade. Stu is a force in this world and hall of fame individual. READY TO ROLL
Stu: mentions Jägr
Will: "What did he do?"
Best podcast ever from The Boys. Stu is awesome. Needs to come on once a year or so.