[Canucks] General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that the Canucks have acquired F Elias Lindholm from the Calgary Flames in exchange for F Andrei Kuzmenko, D Hunter Brzustewicz, D Joni Jurmo, a first-round pick and a conditional fourth-round pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft.
General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that the #Canucks have acquired F Elias Lindholm from the Calgary Flames in exchange for F Andrei Kuzmenko, D Hunter Brzustewicz, D Joni Jurmo, a first-round pick and a conditional fourth-round pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft.
— Vancouver Canucks (@Canucks) February 1, 2024
by PaperMoonShine
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Ok so that actually seems like a lot to give up for a rental
Damn
Cup or bust. That’s going to set us back a few years.
THANK YOU KUZY!!!
Hunter and Kuz are found money! This is a great deal!
Any salary retained? Seems like a lot of pieces albeit faraway from nhl roster pieces.
Ok but what about tanev
We’re first in the league. Let’s fucking go for it!!
Kuzmenko was never going to work out here.
Brzustewicz was trending nicely
Jurmo is never going to be an impact player at the NHl level.
Our first was expected.
The 4th meh.
EDIT: We kept Hoglander and also unloaded 5.5 million in cap space for this summer.
I’m gonna miss Kuzy, but super excited to see how Lindholm plays for us
Might seem like an overpay, but I think one thing that’s going a bit unnoticed (unless I missed some news about salary retention) is that the 5.5M from Kuzy’s deal being unloaded next year is gonna be huge for us
We are absolutely swinging for the fences with this one.
32nd pick sucks anyways.
It’s a lot to give up for a rental. But if he leave. We just got a lot of cap space. Which is what we want to extend Petey and give Hronek a contract
It’s alright boys. You can’t buy a Stanley cup with a loonie
This makes sense if it is a cap dump for Petey+Hronek next year, and if Lek or Willy were a hard no in negotiations
It’s the price we pay for that OEL trade honestly
Does this mean we sign Kessel with our 1.8 mil in cap space
Hunter is on a Wagon of a team and I think he was being a bit overrated – the first rd pick stings a bit tho
Basically a 1st and Brzustewicz for Lindholm. I can live with that for a chance for the cup.
Sucks to give up Brzustewicz, he’s been trending so well. Could see this looking bad in a few years.
That being said, this is the year. We’ve got to push the chips in. Hopefully this can help get us over the hump.
Good trade for both sides, people always overrate CHL prospects who rack up points
I think you have to give up a lot when it’s an inter-divisional trade.
I’m gonna miss Kuzy, his personality was second to none.
Canucks fans have forgotten what it costs to get one of the best rentals on the market
Overpay? No freaking way. Its a first and a prospect (hunter). Kuz wasnt fitting and who is joni jurmo? Lets go canucks
100% ok with this. You gotta risk it to get the biscuit boys.
Vancouver All Stars
I see this as a win for both teams.
Lindholm is the best player in that trade.
Kuzmenko is cooked
Brzustewicz isn’t a sure thing + we have our PP Dman
Who tf cares about Jurmo and a 4th
I went from being excited about this to being kind of nauseous.
Still, this is a calculated risk. Let’s look at the facts:
Kuzmenko is found money and was a distraction.
Lindholm gives us a Plan B in case Petey decides to fuck us over.
Bruz, while having a fantastic D+1, is also found money because he was not a 1st round pick. And we have no idea whether or not he is the real deal or if he benefits from a stacked lineup.
Our 1st this year is going to be very late.
We didn’t give up Lekkerimaki or Willander.
We didn’t give up Hoglander.
We robbed them blind for Zadorov.
4th and Jurmo aren’t worth anything.
This takes Lindholm away from our rivals (see Carter, Jeff circa 2012).
This frees up $5.5 million in cap space next season to re-sign Pettersson and Hronek.
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All in all, I think we come out ahead. But until we know what Brz is, it’s impossible to say.
If we win the Cup this season, nothing else matters.
Kuzy just wasn’t working. I’m sad because he had great soundbites and was like a puppy.
Joni Jurmo…heardly ever hear of him.
Hunter Brzutewicz, that sucks, but you gotta give something up.
A first-rounder feels steep but I’m super concerned. Our prospects are looking better and this might be a 32nd overall pick.
Overall I am not mad about this deal.
It looks like a lot but actually look at the assests
1st was Mandatory for Lindholm we all knew that
Kuzmenko hasn’t been good under Tocchet
Jurmo is never smelling the NHL none of us ever talk about him as one of our legit prospects
Brz might sting but he’s just a prospect in the end and we have Hronek and Willander for the Right Side for the next however many years hopefully
Everyone upset about dealing prospects as if we haven’t been in a rebuild for a decade, stars are finally aligning we have to give it a proper go.
Lindholm adds so much to this team.
I don’t understand people’s reaction saying it’s an overpay, the usual price to pay for a top player at the deadline is a 1st, a roster player and a prospect. Unless guentzel becomes available lindholm was going to be the best player available at the deadline. Kuzy is basically a cap dump and then hunter and 1st are the main pieces being moved which seems fair value. Then if jurmo(low chance of making it to the NHL) and a conditional 4th is what it takes to get their guy and get him a month prior to the deadline to help him acclimate for the playoffs then I’m all for it. You gotta give up to get something of value guys, it’s fair value
Long list for a rental, but if you break it down I don’t see how it’s a huge overpay:
– Kuzmenko arguably has negative value, I love him and have his jersey but he’s played very poorly this season, to the point where we celebrate him making a singular good forecheck
– Hunter is a defensively lacking defenceman prospect, while albeit at the coveted RD spot, has no guarantee of even touching the NHL. Showed off tons of potential and a potentially higher floor than expected but still a recent 3rd round pick.
– Joni Jurmo has shown no reason to have any value or potential NHL games in his future.
– Late first in a weak draft does not have much value, as we saw with trades such as the Nick Foligno, Brandon Hagel and Tanner Jeannot trades
– Fourth rounder has minimal value
For a quality 2nd line center that can push us over the edge, we have an option to re-sign or look elsewhere in FA and giving us an incredible amount of versatility and offence to this lineup. Win in my books.
LETS GO WIN THE CUP SO I CAN DIE
I think you’re going to see a different Lindholm in Vancouver. He has high hockey IQ, and he’ll pick up Tocchet’s systems quickly. He is going to be motivated as hell.
Didn’t Lindholm finish 2nd in Selke voting a couple years ago? Not sure how much an outlier that season was for him defensively. He also has a 55.5% faceoff percentage so he brings more than just scoring.
Didn’t give up Lekki, Willander, Hoglander, Podkolzin, which is amazing.
I loved Kuzy but he just doesn’t work under Tocchet.
Bruz was exciting, but he’s never going to play the role hes best suited for with the Canucks as long as Quinn is here.
Jurmo I don’t think will crack any NHL lineups
1st hurts to give away, but it will hopefully be a late first.
Overall I’m happy to get the best player in the trade, and so so happy for the boys to get another really good player in the group.
You gotta imagine the boys are gonna come out of the all-star break fucking flying
Hey guys, Flames fan here. Take care of Lindy for us. He’s a solid player who’s had a bit of a down year but we think it’s just because he wasn’t committed to the team anymore. Hell of a center who’s gonna be remembered fondly by us for a long time. All the best in the playoffs, do us a favor and beat the piss out of the Oilers if yall meet up in the second round.
This may be egg on my face in 5 years, but Bruz feels like a guy who will be really good in lower levels, but lack what it takes to be a regular/+ NHLer. And offloading 5.5mil for Kuz who, even if he’s good elsewhere, just wasn’t gonna give us that value here. Feels like a sell high on a ways-off d prospect, another throw in, cap shed for Kuz’s change of scenery, and some picks for real center depth.