Is Fabian Lysell becoming a problem?
And SHP number one Fabian lysel and the comments by his coach that were a little uh interesting and and let’s uh let’s hear the clip now when you look at a guy like lysel how have you seen him progress over over his time here um listen there’s a lot of good
Things he does he he can create anxiety with his feet um but for Fabian you know he has to recognize that some times there’s not always a play to be made I think that’s still in his growth um he’s learning that it’s not not saying that
He won’t but you know the team game is is real important and he’s got you know five other guys there I I you know I hate to play in the third period where he’s trying to beat a guy one on four and that’s the stuff he’s got to get out
Of his game and it’s it’s recognizing that and you know we’re getting into year two here he’s gotta start buying in or he won’t play for Jim mcgomery that’s a big part of you know Monty’s game is is the team game and and building the
Team game and and a lot of that is possession you can’t you can’t necessarily chip the puck get it back uh expand and hit the weak side D you need five other guys to be a part of that and you have to be connected and a willingness to to play that way and
Until until you do then you know you’re out of here you’re not in the American League then you’re you know your Jim mcgomery is’s problem but until then he’s got to start he’s got to start building that into his game boy that’s interesting in that he
Flat out says he’s not gonna play for Jim Montgomery and um it’s just in tonight against the Marley about eight minutes left in the second period it’s a two to two game and what does he do one on four inside the blue line and loses the puck uh again um
I don’t know it I find it interesting and uh you know I’ll hear your thoughts on it and then I and then I have an interesting thought as that sort of of a deeper uh look at it go ahead I I find it very interesting and the part that
Stuck out to me was that um when he if he gets out of the AHL and and up to the Bruins he’ll be Jim Montgomery’s problem right not like Jim Montgomery’s player or he’ll be playing in the NHL he’ll be his problem right so that sounds like he
Really has problems kind of fitting into the team concept down there um and and you know maybe it’s a thing between him and the coach where the coach really doesn’t like him he’s never liked him you know it could be an issue of that um but it sounds really more like on Ice
He’s just kind of selfish uh and tries to do too much and maybe he’s trying to do too much to prove himself but that’s not going to get you noticed unless it’s getting you noticed uh in the wrong ways so here’s my problem in the in the scout voting
Process when you’re drafting players like why is it that the Bruins are trying to get a guy like this and then try to make him into their their two-way you know defensively conscious player you know they know why don’t they know this going in that a guy like lysel
Brett Harrison there have been other guys too in the past that they they don’t play a ton of Defense they do this one-on-one stuff they have very good offensive talent but you’re telling why why are you I have a problem with who they’re who they’re scouting who they’re
Drafting and if there’s an actual plan there if there’s a profile of a player that they that they look at it or are they just are they just you know staring at the board and throwing dots at it I mean by some of the picks in the
Past it seems like they may be throwing why are you surprised that lysel does this like why are you surprised right so the staring at the board and throwing darts I mean if that was the case like you know the board in 2015 probably would have had a lot better guys on it
When they did they like were there a couple of pages stuck together and they when they turn the page over there a whole section was missing and then they threw the D like aition was aition what he’s on page four yeah that’s not a page one guy what what are
We doing here fellas somebody jerking off with the magazine again I mean can we can we figure some things out I mean I get I agree what you’re saying though about about lysel because I think that um he really has an issue with how the
Team game is played and then you know do you do you Scout a guy like that and just be like look he’s not going to play defense for us you know this is an offensive guy we have to cultivate that side of his game uh that’s what’s going
To get him to the league it’s not whether he’s going to be the next Patrice buron not everybody’s Patrice berson David Pak came into the league and he was not great defensively no but you you brought him in here because he could score goals and make plays and
He’s Dynamic offensively and his game his defensive game has grown it’s still not good people say all you want if you can back check enough and still put up points and do the things that should be good enough he’s terrible in his own P’s terrible in his own zone right terrible
Last night against Minnesota there was a few times where he just went out to the point and like waved his stick around and walked around him and went in for really high quality chances so it’s not like he’s lighting the world on fire defensively so if you have guys that you
Draft that aren’t great defensively like you should you should be you shouldn’t be trying to change them into a different type of player they should be able to be the player they are and then just add some to their defensive game enough that they can play at the NHL
Level and produce offensively and do the stuff offensively that you need them to do and hope that the other guys on the ice will will cover up for that well they seem to draft prra because he had some defensive attributes like he could play some defense and he was a
Well-rounded player so what I don’t understand is it just seems that they’re drafting guys who are who are a certain type of player and then and then trying to mold them into something else that they’re not and that that to me that’s really a risky game because you know a
Guy like Fabian lysel is never going to be you know Henrik Zetterberg or something like he’s going to be this you know G Carino but you know you know they draft him because he’s supremely talented offensively but this is what you kind of get with him so I don’t
Understand I guess I don’t understand like if there’s a certain profile of a type of player that they’re looking for this guy doesn’t seem to fit that profile and now we get into danger zone time where the Providence coach has obviously had enough with them like he’s obviously very frustrated to say he’s
Gonna be Monty’s problem like that’s that’s a real choice of words there so I you know and he said stuff about mulv too earlier in the season like muino seems to not care what he I mean he’ll he’ll be pretty blunt yeah point uh with his with his players and I think that
You know I just I just don’t understand I guess what they’re doing in drafting and how they identify players and say okay this is this is the kind of the player that we want if you’re if you’re really defensively conscious as a as an organization and you want two-way
Players in your forward group then that’s who you should be drafting like that’s who you should be drafting Own It Own It own it right you should be draft you should be going after the gritty guys who are going to win Puck battles and those kind of like don’t don’t draft
Europeans that float right you know that’s doesn’t fit your profile of the team that you want to be like that this has got back to the whole thing of what is their ident what do they want their identity to be hard to play against you know then we talked about that before
What does that really mean what does that mean is hard to play Go is it a hard for check where you where you beating guys up is it you know holding the park down like what is it and I don’t know if they really know like they
Have an idea of like yeah hard to play against like Puck possession but like you don’t have all these guy not all the guys that you draft are Charlie coil siiz that can put possess the puck down low you’re drafting guys like lysel who
Are 510 or 5’11 you know ptra is 510 170 he’s not a you know down low Puck possession guy so really what is your identity and I don’t really think they know what it is I don’t think so either it’s defense and goal tending but their defense still isn’t built like you would
Want to build a defense like that you know it’s not nasty and defense binded it’s it’s Puck movers some of them are small some of them are big not any of them really are physical Lind Holm isn’t lorai isn’t grizzli isn’t you know forbo’s you know big but he’s slow he’s
Not a puck mover so like what are you really doing do you really do you really have any idea what your what your identity is as a team and even though they’re playing well and they gel well together and the culture is great I don’t really think they draft and
Develop to a certain identity I really don’t no I I think it’s and I think it’s again I think there’s a difference in philosophy between Sweeney and Neely neie was a power forward banging guys great you know to the front of the net you know that whole thing like he was
Like fighting and tough and he wants he wants to hitting and everything and Sweeney was a a a diminutive defenseman who who could skate you know he was Matt grizzli really and that’s uh so that’s who he was so he likes Puck movers and and stuff like that and fluid skaters
And Neely wants to bang you through the glass like so there’s a diff there’s there’s a difference in philosophy there for sure because every once in a while Ney will say okay go get you know Nick Richie go get you know Zack Ronaldo like when he gets pissed off like go ahead
And get these guys and then the rest of the time they’re just jelling guys just to get guys I don’t even know what exactly they’re trying to do now they’ve been really good because they had a really good core of players and they really hit a home run with ponar I mean
He’s a prolific goal scorer but you know now I i’ I’d like to see them as they move the roster over to to find an identity and to try to piece in some guys that that actually fit what they’re trying to do like
Fabian Lysell was recently ripped by his coach in Providence for not buying into the system and being responsible defensively. Full Audio from coaches’ comments are included in the clip!
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2 Comments
Lysell was able to do what he's trying to do in the AHL all his life. Now, as he's taken the next step, those skills still translate; however, he must play within the 5-man team concept. Everyone can see the kids offensive upside, but those comments by his coach, on air, are pretty damning! He either adapts his game or he will be gone! Be honest, they are looking for the next Pasta!
Let’s never forget how the B’s passed on Barzal in the draft for Senychyn ….. forget about Connor or Chabot, Barzal would have this franchise achieving, not over achieving.